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On Apr 18, 7:12 pm, Fred Fredburger wrote:
Bill C wrote: On Apr 17, 3:49 pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote: Kveck, you are a lying son of a bitch because that's what you want to be. Looks like these lying Commies agree with Kveck too!: http://www.voanews.com/english/2007-04-06-voa14.cfm Pentagon Probe Finds No Ties Between Saddam, Bin Laden By VOA News 06 April 2007 Bill C And while we're on the subject, check out the rant by this commie, pinko *******: http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle17516.htm As long as all you ****ing retards keep voting for a *leader* rather than *servant*, then trouble will be worse than it could otherwise be, and people with sense (i.e. me), will be worse off than we could otherwise be. Democracy doesn't work, but you could at least attempt to mitigate its damage. "Its commonplace that self-selecting groups do not in fact find the right answers via collective decision making. Rather, they end up in a feast of groupthink, actually moving further and further away from reality." -- tim worstall "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen." -- Samuel Adams, "Founding Father" and Angles-Land Public Enemy #1 |
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Fred Fredburger wrote: wrote: On Apr 19, 9:32 am, Fred Fredburger wrote: You are confused: 1. I don't blame Bush for everything; you simply hold him accountable for NOTHING. It is always enlightening to see someone such as yourself making claims like that without any evidence. Funny, funny Tom! There is GREAT evidence that I don't blame Bush for everything. Just read anything I've had to say about Afghanistan, for instance. Tell me, what competent person would want to be president with dopes like you waiting to critique every move? You're so funny!!! Are you saying there has never been and never will be a President that YOU criticize? No, you're just saying you're a hypocrite. As I mentioned elsewhere, he doesn't limit his non-accountability program to just GWB. It applies to pretty much any Republican. See his comments on Watergate, which he classifies as a "third-rate burglary": ___________________ It was a simple case of Nixon wanting not to win the election - for which he was the run-away favorite - but he wanted to win it by an overwhelming majority. If that is the case, AND IT WAS, then Watergate was nothing but a third rate dirty election trick as both parties have always pulled in each other. ___________________ Or see him wax poetic over Iran-Contra: ___________________ This was something that had to be dreamed up in the mind of some standup comic of the time. Iran was going to get spare parts for their US weapons systems one way or another. We all know that and don't pretend that most of this stuff isn't available off of the black market. This lunatic idea of selling the spare parts to the Iranians (which probably the property of the Iranians to begin with) making a profit on it and then using that to fund the contra war did have a certain strange genius. The only real objection to all of this was that Congress had made it illegal and not that anyone found anything so morally illegitamate about it. ___________________ http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...877af0ea067?hl Tom's operating principle on this is "It's OK if you're a Republican" - IOKIYAR. -- tanx, Howard Never take a tenant with a monkey. remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok? |
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On Apr 19, 4:21 pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
Bill, how long were we in WW II before we stopped retreating? I'm not sure what you two are talking about Iran, and for Iraq this really requires a Chung Chart, but here goes: WW 2 US attacked: December 1941 First major strategic US victory: Midway, June 1942, 7 months later (This is my opinion on what counts as stopping retreating. On the Eastern front, it was 18 months from invasion to Stalingrad.) V-E day: May 1945, 42 months later V-J day: August 1945, 45 months later Iraq: Invasion starts: March 2003 "Mission accomplished": May 2003, 2 months later Current date: April 2007, 49 months later. So, accepting your point that WW 2 and Iraq are strategically identical, we should have tied it up about four months ago. Maybe our problem is that we haven't dropped any atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Look out, Hiroshima - it worked last time. Ben RBR Dept. of Military History |
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On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 21:54:49 -0700, Howard Kveck
wrote: Calling Bush "mediocre" gives him entirely too much credit. And, yes, we *can* be critical of him - that's the first step of holding him accountable for his actions. I'm not sure why the Kunich wants a president that can't handle criticism (OK, other than it would be a president much more likely to be just like the Kunich). Last I heard, it comes with the territory. If you want to be the controller, you answer to the board of directors. If you want to be CFO or CEO, the same but more so. And if you want to be POTUS, you answer to the citizens of the U.S. first and the world second. You don't get elected to the head of the most powerful country in the world to get a free ride for your actions and miscarriages. If you can't handle that, then stay home and ride your bike. Sounds like the Kunich worries overly much about us hurting GWBs feelings. Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels... |
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oups.com... So, accepting your point that WW 2 and Iraq are strategically identical I don't think we need to discuss anything with you. |
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Tom Kunich wrote:
I don't criticise Presidents for trying and failing. I criticize them if they don't try at all. Maybe you don't understand the distinction but then apparently most of those here are in the same boat as you. Well, you need to communicate that a lot more clearly. A LOT of what you say is strictly partisan. Your clear and unmistakable message is that you support everything done by Republicans and denounce anything done by Democrats. Strangely, criticizing the Bush administration has become nonpartisan. Stories like this are everywhere these days: http://tinyurl.com/3e5zme |
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Damn - I thought this was about Franky VdB finishing 111th yesterday.....
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