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Old January 15th 08, 03:08 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Fred Fredburger[_3_]
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Bill C wrote:

And when we pull everyone, for all practical purposes, out like we did
in SE Asia who's gonna put a damper on the sectarian war we allowed to
get started, and enabled?
That is the plan of Obama and the far left from everything I've seen.


How much of what gets said on the campaign trail do you believe? I
believe anyone who says such a thing is every bit as sincere as Ronald
Reagan was when he vowed to eliminate abortion.
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Old January 15th 08, 03:37 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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"William Asher" wrote in message
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Nobody pays an institution like MIT the money *after* they've done the
work.


Thanks for demonstrating that you haven't a clue what you're talking about.

I was just laid off from a job in which I just about completed the work that
a grant would have funded. They reported what the results they WOULD get and
usually that would obtain the grant. Instead, in this case, they didn't have
the funds and gave it somewhere else.

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Old January 15th 08, 03:39 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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"Fred Fredburger" wrote in message
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Well, so long as you can justify your tone it's obviously OK.


Let's be clear of this - Chung believes himself to be upper class and thinks
he can avoid the results of his social politics.

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Old January 15th 08, 03:45 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Jan 14, 12:23 pm, Bill C wrote:
The
administration seriously cooked/cherry-picked the intel and sold it to
even the left/center Democrats.


The hell they did. Anyone with two braincells to rub together could
see the 'intelligence' was fake. Democrats crawfished their way onto
the troopship because they thought it would be a cakewalk, lacked any
moral fortitude and didn't want to be seen as weak, not because they
believed Saddam was a threat.


You're stupid but I suppose you just can't help it. Maybe you don't remember
9/11 but most human Americans will. The invasion of Iraq totally changed the
focus of the terrorists and they're being slaughtered wholesale there as we
write.

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Old January 15th 08, 03:46 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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"Kurgan Gringioni" wrote in message
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On Jan 14, 10:52 am, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
Why is it that you don't seem to notice that the implication here
is that all of the Iraqis were MUCH better off under Hussein.


Not only were they better off - we were better off too.

Containment was a much, much cheaper policy to the tune of a trillion
dollars (and more and more as it stretches on into the future). It
worked for the Soviet Union, it was working for Iraq.


Thanks for demonstrating that you haven't a trace of morals and the only
interest you have in the world is financial.

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Old January 15th 08, 04:10 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Jan 14, 8:45 pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
wrote in message

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On Jan 14, 12:23 pm, Bill C wrote:
The
administration seriously cooked/cherry-picked the intel and sold it to
even the left/center Democrats.


The hell they did. Anyone with two braincells to rub together could
see the 'intelligence' was fake. Democrats crawfished their way onto
the troopship because they thought it would be a cakewalk, lacked any
moral fortitude and didn't want to be seen as weak, not because they
believed Saddam was a threat.


You're stupid but I suppose you just can't help it. Maybe you don't remember
9/11 but most human Americans will. The invasion of Iraq totally changed the
focus of the terrorists and they're being slaughtered wholesale there as we
write.


Tard Level Orange
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Old January 15th 08, 05:17 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Jan 14, 7:39 pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:

Let's be clear of this - Chung believes himself to be upper class


No, no, you're mistaken. What I believe is that you have no class.
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Old January 15th 08, 05:21 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Bill C wrote:

I loved the anti-Guantanamo protests, in Cuba, just miles from the
Cuban prisons which are full of evil people like human rights
campaigners, democracy activists, and other "enemies of the State"


What difference does that make? It's obvious to me that it's entirely
consistent to disapprove of BOTH those things. You just have to throw
out the right wing versus left wing mentality. Disapprove of rights
violations regardless of the justification.

Bill, I know you're not a right wing nutcase. It DOES seem like
everything you say is couched in left vs right/ liberal vs conservative
/ Democrat vs Republican terms. It is not necessary to view things in
that light.
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Old January 15th 08, 05:40 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Kurgan Gringioni
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On Jan 14, 7:46*pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
"Kurgan Gringioni" wrote in message

...
On Jan 14, 10:52 am, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:

Why is it that you don't seem to notice that the implication here
is that all of the Iraqis were MUCH better off under Hussein.


Not only were they better off - we were better off too.


Containment was a much, much cheaper policy to the tune of a trillion
dollars (and more and more as it stretches on into the future). It
worked for the Soviet Union, it was working for Iraq.


Thanks for demonstrating that you haven't a trace of morals and the only
interest you have in the world is financial.




Dumbass -


Hmmm. We should have nuked the Soviet Union instead?


thanks,

K. Gringioni.
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Old January 15th 08, 06:29 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Fred Fredburger[_3_]
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Tom Kunich wrote:
"Fred Fredburger" wrote in message
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Well, so long as you can justify your tone it's obviously OK.


Let's be clear of this - Chung believes himself to be upper class and
thinks he can avoid the results of his social politics.


I don't know Chung that well, but I'm familiar with the idea. Sometimes
called 'Limousine Liberals' as opposed to 'Trailer Park Conservatives'.
Those are fun phrases, but they still describe a world that's 1
dimensional.

 




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