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The nightmare goes on, Ricco caught with EPO
Davey Crockett wrote:
Goes deeper Parent company of L'Equipe == Parent company of ASO Hopefully != Parent Company of LNDD |
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On Jul 17, 1:28 pm, Davey Crockett wrote:
a écrit profondement: | On Jul 17, 12:58 pm, Keith wrote: | http://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme/breve...53_ricco-posit.... | | So it seems he wasn't saved by his natural hematocrit level. | | The real nightmare is that L'Equipe is the official leak of the AFLD. | | -ilan Goes deeper Parent company of L'Equipe == Parent company of ASO -- Davey Crockett - TRUTH is only ILLEGAL when CRIMINALS are in POWER Yes, I've been wondering if the Criterium du Dauphine Libere is soon going to be renamed Criterium de L'Equipe. -ilan |
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On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:58:06 +0200, Keith wrote:
http://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme/breve...sitif_Dev.html So it seems he wasn't saved by his natural hematocrit level. I'll candyass it by saying I knew it all along. Yeah, it was so obvious to me. |
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On Jul 17, 7:28*am, wrote:
On Jul 17, 12:58 pm, Keith wrote: http://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme/breve...53_ricco-posit... So it seems he wasn't saved by his natural hematocrit level. More to the point, I wonder what the percentage of false positives is for this test. If it is a couple of percent, then there is a very good chance someone is going to test positive after 5 tests like Ricco had. -ilan Ilan, C'mon guilty until proven innocent, and "yellow journalists" never lie, or run the house line, they are "Journalists" damn it. They wouldn't do that. Bill C Feel free to look up John Tomase, and the Boston Heralds apology for running a story which they finally admitted they had NO proof of at all, that did massive damage. Tomase is still employed, and wasn't even suspended. |
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"Davey Crockett" schreef in bericht ... Keith a écrit profondement: | http://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme/breve...sitif_Dev.html | | So it seems he wasn't saved by his natural hematocrit level. Funilly enough I'd mentally reserved Ricco as the next candidate for the Grand Order (of the Boot) Well, as I wrtote three days ago in a French forum: "Ricco is already tested five times. After all, he put up a great performance, so they will not rest before to put him in the pillory - like Landis, Vino, Rasmussen" ("Riccó a déjà cinq fois dû subir un test de dopage. Après tout, il a fait un exploit, donc on ne reposera plus avant d'avoir trouvé une raison de le clouer au pilori - comme Landis, Vino, Rasmussen.put him in the pillory"). Of course, it's quite possible he is really guilty - but we will never know. Benjo |
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On Jul 17, 1:48 pm, "Benjo Maso" wrote:
"Davey Crockett" schreef in ... Keith a écrit profondement: | http://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme/breve...53_ricco-posit... | | So it seems he wasn't saved by his natural hematocrit level. Funilly enough I'd mentally reserved Ricco as the next candidate for the Grand Order (of the Boot) Well, as I wrtote three days ago in a French forum: "Ricco is already tested five times. After all, he put up a great performance, so they will not rest before to put him in the pillory - like Landis, Vino, Rasmussen" ("Riccó a déjà cinq fois dû subir un test de dopage. Après tout, il a fait un exploit, donc on ne reposera plus avant d'avoir trouvé une raison de le clouer au pilori - comme Landis, Vino, Rasmussen.put him in the pillory").. Of course, it's quite possible he is really guilty - but we will never know. Benjo I live right next to the former rue du Pilori in Paris (now rue de Buci) which led to the Place du Pilori (now known as Mabillon), the heart of the Faubourg St. Germain during the middle ages since people must have loved watching all those blashphemers, debtors, and other scoundrels punished publicly. These days, TdF dopers and other miscreants are put in "garde a vue" by the French police which means being locked in a cell with hardly anywhere to sit, no food, water, sleep impossible, and incessant accusatory questioning and threatening harassment by the police, all this without having the right to a lawyer for the first 72 hours. Pillory might be preferable, at least that way everyone can observe the injustice. -ilan |
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The nightmare goes on, Ricco caught with EPO
On Jul 17, 1:28 pm, wrote:
On Jul 17, 12:58 pm, Keith wrote: http://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme/breve...53_ricco-posit... So it seems he wasn't saved by his natural hematocrit level. More to the point, I wonder what the percentage of false positives is for this test. If it is a couple of percent, then there is a very good chance someone is going to test positive after 5 tests like Ricco had. -ilan Also, the Mayo case shows that B samples will continue being tested until the positive is confirmed, so these days a positive A sample is enough to convict. -ilan |
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The nightmare goes on, Ricco caught with EPO
On Jul 17, 5:58*am, Keith wrote:
http://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme/breve...53_ricco-posit... So it seems he wasn't saved by his natural hematocrit level. If his B sample is tested tested tested by the same lab and even same lab tech, there's scant chance he will be "saved" at all. It's the War on People. How high did you want that stack of bodies, again? --D-y |
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The nightmare goes on, Ricco caught with EPO
What do all these positives say about the testing at other races,
particularly the Giro? Do you think this is another skirmish in the ASO-ProTour conflict? |
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The nightmare goes on, Ricco caught with EPO
Keith wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 04:03:11 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Jul 17, 12:58 pm, Keith wrote: http://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme/breve...53_ricco-posit... So it seems he wasn't saved by his natural hematocrit level. The real nightmare is that L'Equipe is the official leak of the AFLD. ilan, as much as I respect and even admire your posts about cycling in France, your cheap shots and rants against L'Equipe are really annoying. The bottom line to me is that it doesn't matter how the news gets out as long as it's the truth. As far as I can remember, L'Equipe only really failed once, that was in 1998 when they ferociously attacked Aimé Jacquet, they later apologized. They certainly are NOT the cheap rag you try to picture. These tests should be well controlled and "Leak results to L'Equipe" should not be part of the official process. |
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