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OT Congrats on a couple of special days
On Jan 20, 2:53*pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
"P.Chisholm" wrote in message ... Sure. Old Condi was the picture of cooperation and bipartisanship. Remarkable number of Repubs who STILL think Iraq was and is a good idea. Same for Rummy. The only 'hope' the Bush presidency had was Powell and they dumped(Cheny) on him. I'm glad he voted with his feet. My guess is that you're going to have an entirely different opinion of Bush and his time in office by the end of 2012. Let's remember that they called Harry Truman every name in the book until history showed that he was right most of the time. I doubt it. Iraq really ****es me off, as a former military guy. Truman ended the war with Japan. Different opinion in 4 years', fat chance. The first half of the 'bailout' is MISSING. NO accountability. Great job by Sec Paulsen. Another wealthy guy asleep on watch. Psst - the money is controlled by CONGRESS. Try to keep up here Peter. You ought to know better than that. No, it was approved by congress, it was administered by Treasury. You need to do some research on how the Gov't operates(or doesn't). Next thing you will say is that the military is commanded by the JCS. This administration was a disaster, with a capital *'I' (for Iraq). Bush, good ole boy he was, was duped by chenyrummy and Co. Frankly I'm shocked that you couldn't tell that Bush stepped into the middle of a growing world threat and stopped it cold. Iraq wasn't a 'world threat'. If you think that you are as clueless as most neocons in the US. Our 4000+ dead and trillions of $ should have gone to Afganistan and at least one terrorist would be dead now instead of making videos. |
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OT Congrats on a couple of special days
On Jan 20, 2:08 pm, William Asher wrote:
Tom Kunich wrote: "Bill C" wrote in message .. . Complete disaster on just about every front, except for their few chosen friends would pretty well sum up the legacy. It's too bad that you never bothered to actually study the problem. Perhaps you could go back to listening to NPR for your clear-eyed view of the world around you. I'm hoping that I'm totaly wrong, and Obama will be one of the greatest Presidents in US history and wildly successful for eight years. Anyone hoping for a disaster is a complete dickhead and unfortunately they are out there, just as they were for Bush. The Democrats SCREAMED that Reagan added to much money to the National Debt. Now they almost cheered that Bush ****ed away 5 times that amount and they ARE cheering that Obama intends to spend TWICE Bush's amount. Hey, maybe you think that simply adds onto an IOU like the rest of the dopes here instead of our currency being devalued. Bush was sworn to uphold, and defend the Constitution and failed pretty miserably, I hope Obama does better, but I have real reservations on how that'll work out, as you know. What part of the Constitution was it that he failed to uphold? Just a note to Kurgan. We can only hope that Bush serves as an everlasting bad example and that ****'s NOT repeated. Still hoping they put a bunch of those scumbags in Leavenworth where they belong. I wonder what you've been looking at for the last eight years. All over the world, people are reading this and thinking: "420 friendly." -- Bill Asher I'm thinking DSM-IV 301.50 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSM-IV_Codes) |
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"P.Chisholm" wrote in message
... On Jan 20, 2:53 pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote: My guess is that you're going to have an entirely different opinion of Bush and his time in office by the end of 2012. Let's remember that they called Harry Truman every name in the book until history showed that he was right most of the time. I doubt it. Iraq really ****es me off, as a former military guy. Truman ended the war with Japan. Different opinion in 4 years', fat chance. Remember that I'm a Vietnam vet. I don't like war or rumors of war. However, what should have been stunningly clear to everyone was that Hussein was going to get a nuclear weapon sooner than later. The UN was about to back out of Iraq and Saddam was going to end up giving WMD to terrorists simply to maintain his "leadership" role in the middle east. You don't have to believe any of that because it wasn't allowed to happen. The first half of the 'bailout' is MISSING. NO accountability. Great job by Sec Paulsen. Another wealthy guy asleep on watch. Psst - the money is controlled by CONGRESS. Try to keep up here Peter. You ought to know better than that. No, it was approved by congress, it was administered by Treasury. Can you please read up on how the government works? Treasury had no authority to hand out money. They only did what was in the plan they submitted to Congress. Iraq wasn't a 'world threat'. If you think that you are as clueless as most neocons in the US. Our 4000+ dead and trillions of $ should have gone to Afganistan and at least one terrorist would be dead now instead of making videos. What is great is that you have such a world view despite knowing nothing about this subject a few years ago. |
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"P.Chisholm" wrote in message
... On Jan 20, 2:53 pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote: My guess is that you're going to have an entirely different opinion of Bush and his time in office by the end of 2012. Let's remember that they called Harry Truman every name in the book until history showed that he was right most of the time. I doubt it. Iraq really ****es me off, as a former military guy. Truman ended the war with Japan. Different opinion in 4 years', fat chance. Peter, please think before writing. Truman took the US into Korea. He was treated EXACTLY the way Bush has been treated but the press in those days at least tried to be neutral. |
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On Jan 20, 4:42*pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
"P.Chisholm" wrote in message ... On Jan 20, 2:53 pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote: My guess is that you're going to have an entirely different opinion of Bush and his time in office by the end of 2012. Let's remember that they called Harry Truman every name in the book until history showed that he was right most of the time. I doubt it. Iraq really ****es me off, as a former military guy. Truman ended the war with Japan. Different opinion in 4 years', fat chance. Remember that I'm a Vietnam vet. I don't like war or rumors of war. However, what should have been stunningly clear to everyone was that Hussein was going to get a nuclear weapon sooner than later. The UN was about to back out of Iraq and Saddam was going to end up giving WMD to terrorists simply to maintain his "leadership" role in the middle east. Poppycock. He was under control, much like Kaddafi was and is. Much like Syria is now. You don't have to believe any of that because it wasn't allowed to happen.. How convienent. The first half of the 'bailout' is MISSING. NO accountability. Great job by Sec Paulsen. Another wealthy guy asleep on watch. Psst - the money is controlled by CONGRESS. Try to keep up here Peter.. You ought to know better than that. No, it was approved by congress, it was administered by Treasury. Can you please read up on how the government works? Treasury had no authority to hand out money. They only did what was in the plan they submitted to Congress. Correct young man. They administered the bailout money. You really think 535 independent souls that can't agree on anything could administer the handout of the $? Iraq wasn't a 'world threat'. If you think that you are as clueless as most neocons in the US. Our 4000+ dead and trillions of $ should have gone to Afganistan and at least one terrorist would be dead now instead of making videos. What is great is that you have such a world view despite knowing nothing about this subject a few years ago. The same world you seem to 'view'. Have fun the next 4 years. Can't wait for the bleeting. I know what the 'threat' was after 9/11 and it was NOT Iraq. |
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On Jan 20, 11:19*am, Donald Munro wrote:
Paul G. wrote: I'm going to get one of my greatest wishes in about an hour when the twin turds Bush and Cheney get flushed. * Are you drinking Texan tequila or Belgian beer at your bye-bye bush party ? I *am* going to an Inauguration party in a couple of hours. I'm bringing a plastic baseball bat, a bunch of flip flop sandals, a "bop bag", pictures of Bush and Cheney to attach to the bop bag, and a "pretzel toss" set up. That one has a picture of Bush with his mouth wide open, we'll be attempting to toss pretzels thru the mouth hole. Someone else is bringing a dart board. We really need a shotgun to do justice to Cheney, but the host doesn't want any holes in his walls... We're Californians living in the wine country, so we'll be drinking wine. But your question reminds me of a joke one of my Oregon in-laws told me... Three cowboys- one each from Texas, California, and Oregon meet on the trail and set up camp one evening. After dinner the Texan takes a sip from a bottle of Lone Star beer, then throws the bottle into the air and blasts it with his 6 shooter. The Oregonian says "Why'd you do that?" to which the Texan replies "We've got plenty of beer in Texas!" The Californian opens a bottle of Cabernet, takes a sip, throws the bottle in the air and blasts it with his 6 shooter, saying "We've got plenty of wine in California!" The Oregonian thinks about this for a minute, then opens a bottle of Weinhards beer, takes a sip, pulls his 6 shooter and shoots the Californian. The Texan is shocked. He screams "Why the HELL did you do that?!" The Oregonian calmly explains: "We have a bottle bill, so I have to recycle the bottle, but we've got PLENTY of Californians in Oregon." -Paul |
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On Jan 20, 3:42*pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
"P.Chisholm" wrote in message ... On Jan 20, 2:53 pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote: My guess is that you're going to have an entirely different opinion of Bush and his time in office by the end of 2012. Let's remember that they called Harry Truman every name in the book until history showed that he was right most of the time. I doubt it. Iraq really ****es me off, as a former military guy. Truman ended the war with Japan. Different opinion in 4 years', fat chance. Remember that I'm a Vietnam vet. I don't like war or rumors of war. However, what should have been stunningly clear to everyone was that Hussein was going to get a nuclear weapon sooner than later. I'm a Vietnam Era vet. What was obvious to me was that Saddam was no where near to getting nuclear weapons. The expensive/hard part of making a nuke is getting the fissile material, which requires a huge facility to either make the plutonium or to extract the uranium isotope. You need a reactor or thousands of centrifuges. You can't hide those because of the heat produced or the power consumed. Anyone who knows anything about making nuclear weapons knows this, and knows that while Saddam was no threat, Iran was and is. Iran has uranium mines, at least one working reactor, and thousands of centrifuges. They will get the bomb because the Iraq fiasco has tied up our troops. What is stunningly clear is that like your hero Bush, you're an idiot. -Paul |
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On Jan 20, 5:20*pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
"P.Chisholm" wrote in message ... On Jan 20, 2:53 pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote: My guess is that you're going to have an entirely different opinion of Bush and his time in office by the end of 2012. Let's remember that they called Harry Truman every name in the book until history showed that he was right most of the time. I doubt it. Iraq really ****es me off, as a former military guy. Truman ended the war with Japan. Different opinion in 4 years', fat chance. Peter, please think before writing. Truman took the US into Korea. He was treated EXACTLY the way Bush has been treated but the press in those days at least tried to be neutral. North Korea invaded the South. It was in all the papers. Neither you nor I know how Truman was treated, since you and I were either probably not born or really young(I was 1). Think before writing huh..that's funny when you write crap like we will all realize, somehow, what a great president Bush was. The first thing Truman did was end the war in the pacific. Next he observed a treaty we had with South Korea. The third thing he did was recognize the threat from the Soviet Union. Even Roosevelt had about 10% of the people say we shouldn't enter WWII after Japan attacked Pearl Harbor. There are idiots everywhere, in every era. Iraq was a mistake, just like VietNam was. History will say so. 4 years won't have us all building Bush statues. |
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On Jan 20, 5:20*pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
"P.Chisholm" wrote in message ... On Jan 20, 2:53 pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote: My guess is that you're going to have an entirely different opinion of Bush and his time in office by the end of 2012. Let's remember that they called Harry Truman every name in the book until history showed that he was right most of the time. I doubt it. Iraq really ****es me off, as a former military guy. Truman ended the war with Japan. Different opinion in 4 years', fat chance. Peter, please think before writing. Truman took the US into Korea. He was treated EXACTLY the way Bush has been treated but the press in those days at least tried to be neutral. "These negotiations ended when the North Korean Army invaded the South on June 25, 1950. Under the aegis of the United Nations, nations allied with the United States intervened on behalf of South Korea. After rapid advances in a South Korean counterattack, communist-allied Chinese forces intervened on behalf of North Korea, shifting the balance of the war and ultimately leading to an armistice that approximately restored the original boundaries between North and South Korea." Just in case you may have 'forgotten'. |
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