Cycling, Chess and IP Addresses

bar wrote:
it was the chinese! framing flandis for ... something ...

Publicity. He's going to be promoting their made in china irony meters.

MrVidmar wrote:
Them there IP addresses don't lie.

http://www.iss.net/security_center/advice/Underground/Hacking/Methods/Technical/Spoofing/default.htm

On Feb 15, 10:44*pm, MrVidmar wrote:
Have been personally lambasted in court pleadings by former women's
chess champion Susan Polgar and her supporters on Usenet for having
raised the issue of drugs in professional cycling, noting how many of
Lance Armstrong's former teammates have gone down for drug use, there is
an article in today's NY Times reporting that an arrest warrant has been
issued against Floyd Landis, the dethroned 2006 Tour de France winner.
The arrest is for computer hacking of the French National drug testing
laboratory for the purpose of tampering with data to make it look as
though the lab was sloppy and unreliable. They caught the hackers
because a Trojan infecting the labs computers was placed there from the
IP address of Landis' trainer and major defender Arnie Baker. *Polgar's
husband, Paul Truong, was identified the same way as the author of
thousands of obscene posting to Usenet using the names of other living
chess personalities. Them there IP addresses don't lie.http://www.nytimes..com/2010/02/16/s...is.html?ref=gl...

Those chess related cases were settled last month with Polgar and
husband agreeing not to contest their removal from the other USCF for
cause and agreeing to never again in their lives to seek or accept any
leadership positions with the USCF(chess).

I would have quit chess because of this: "after the match was drawn
she lost on the drawing of lots" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Polgar
It is said that in cycling, some races are lotteries, but who would
have ever thought that chess matches are actual lotteries?

-ilan

Henry wrote:
On Feb 16, 1:38 pm, "
wrote:
On Feb 15, 2:44 pm, MrVidmar wrote:



Have been personally lambasted in court pleadings by former women's
chess champion Susan Polgar and her supporters on Usenet for having
raised the issue of drugs in professional cycling, noting how many of
Lance Armstrong's former teammates have gone down for drug use, there is
an article in today's NY Times reporting that an arrest warrant has been
issued against Floyd Landis, the dethroned 2006 Tour de France winner.
The arrest is for computer hacking of the French National drug testing
laboratory for the purpose of tampering with data to make it look as
though the lab was sloppy and unreliable. They caught the hackers
because a Trojan infecting the labs computers was placed there from the
IP address of Landis' trainer and major defender Arnie Baker. Polgar's
husband, Paul Truong, was identified the same way as the author of
thousands of obscene posting to Usenet using the names of other living
chess personalities. Them there IP addresses don't lie.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/16/sp.../16landis.html
Those chess related cases were settled last month with Polgar and
husband agreeing not to contest their removal from the other USCF for
cause and agreeing to never again in their lives to seek or accept any
leadership positions with the USCF(chess).
Dumbass,

From the article:

"Investigators concluded that the program could have
originated from an e-mail message sent to the lab from
a computer using the same Internet protocol address
as Arnie Baker, Landis’s coach."

The Times says "could have originated" while you said
the Trojan "was placed there from the IP address [of Baker]."
As a lawyer, the difference between these two phrasings
should be obvious to you. Does this mean that you're
disseminating false evidence on Usenet?

Ben

the chain of technical evidence is dodgy. the circumstantial evidence
is much more fun
Stupid comment, Henry. That pretty much was/is what the Polgar
supporters said about the hacking involving Alexander. You have no idea
what the forensic computer evidence is. From what I know of the
Alexander matter, the amount of hard evidence that can be developed by
subpoenas to Internet service providers is significant. BTW, "chains"
of evidence rules are not really applicable to computer tracing. The
evidence is there and preserved. It's not like testing ****. What
Landis and Baker apparently did was the same as your comment, stupid.

Donald Munro wrote:
MrVidmar wrote:
Them there IP addresses don't lie.

http://www.iss.net/security_center/advice/Underground/Hacking/Methods/Technical/Spoofing/default.htm

Try looking at this report by one of our experts in Polgar vs. USCF, et al.

http://rapidshare.com/files/351378269/ExpertReport.pdf

Howard Kveck wrote:
In article ,
Bob Schwartz wrote:

MrVidmar wrote:
KurganGringioni wrote:
"MrVidmar" wrote in message
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: Have been personally lambasted in court pleadings




Please go away.
Please go **** yourself. Thanks.
Dude,

Have you noticed that no one has welcomed you back?

Bill Crowther would have. Well, he'd have welcomed "Davey" back too.

Haven't heard from Bill for some time. Is he still posting here?

ilan wrote:
On Feb 15, 10:44 pm, MrVidmar wrote:
Have been personally lambasted in court pleadings by former women's
chess champion Susan Polgar and her supporters on Usenet for having
raised the issue of drugs in professional cycling, noting how many of
Lance Armstrong's former teammates have gone down for drug use, there is
an article in today's NY Times reporting that an arrest warrant has been
issued against Floyd Landis, the dethroned 2006 Tour de France winner.
The arrest is for computer hacking of the French National drug testing
laboratory for the purpose of tampering with data to make it look as
though the lab was sloppy and unreliable. They caught the hackers
because a Trojan infecting the labs computers was placed there from the
IP address of Landis' trainer and major defender Arnie Baker. Polgar's
husband, Paul Truong, was identified the same way as the author of
thousands of obscene posting to Usenet using the names of other living
chess personalities. Them there IP addresses don't lie.http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/16/sp...is.html?ref=gl...

Those chess related cases were settled last month with Polgar and
husband agreeing not to contest their removal from the other USCF for
cause and agreeing to never again in their lives to seek or accept any
leadership positions with the USCF(chess).

I would have quit chess because of this: "after the match was drawn
she lost on the drawing of lots" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Polgar
It is said that in cycling, some races are lotteries, but who would
have ever thought that chess matches are actual lotteries?

-ilan
Most tournaments now have a playoff with decreasing time controls. Far
from ideal, but much better than drawing lots. There are also, in
tournaments, several different tie break systems that can be used.

Landis speaks:
In an e-mail to the Los Angles Times on Monday, Landis denied the
hacking allegation. He told the newspaper no warrant had been served
against him.

"I can't speak for Arnie, but no attempt has been made to formally
contact me," Landis said in the e-mail. "It appears to be another case
of fabricated evidence by a French lab who is still upset a United
States citizen believed he should have the right to face his accusers
and defend himself."

It's a nice attempt at deflection, but that's not at all likely. I
don't expect that Landis or Baker will address the forensic trail
leading to Baker's IP address any time soon.

MrVidmar wrote:
Landis speaks:
In an e-mail to the Los Angles Times on Monday, Landis denied the
hacking allegation. He told the newspaper no warrant had been served
against him.

"I can't speak for Arnie, but no attempt has been made to formally
contact me," Landis said in the e-mail. "It appears to be another case
of fabricated evidence by a French lab who is still upset a United
States citizen believed he should have the right to face his accusers
and defend himself."

It's a nice attempt at deflection, but that's not at all likely. I
don't expect that Landis or Baker will address the forensic trail
leading to Baker's IP address any time soon.

Dumbass,

Given that he's not in France and no one with authority to
pursue it in the US gives a **** I suspect you're right.

When the Lemond thing was going on I thought of you. I
suspect Lemond was in the market for a psychotic attorney
intensely focused on irrelevant tangents in his lawsuit
against Trek. Shame you weren't available.

Bob Schwartz

Bob Schwartz wrote:
MrVidmar wrote:
Landis speaks:
In an e-mail to the Los Angles Times on Monday, Landis denied the
hacking allegation. He told the newspaper no warrant had been served
against him.

"I can't speak for Arnie, but no attempt has been made to formally
contact me," Landis said in the e-mail. "It appears to be another case
of fabricated evidence by a French lab who is still upset a United
States citizen believed he should have the right to face his accusers
and defend himself."

It's a nice attempt at deflection, but that's not at all likely. I
don't expect that Landis or Baker will address the forensic trail
leading to Baker's IP address any time soon.

Dumbass,

Given that he's not in France and no one with authority to
pursue it in the US gives a **** I suspect you're right.

The stupid comments flow from you like water over Niagara Falls. The
USADA and CAS spent a significant amount of money rebutting what was
apparently doctored, false evidence entered into arbitration proceedings
in this country as well as Europe. It would not be at all surprising if
USADA went to the US Attorney and asked them to open an investigation
against Landis and Baker. As well as criminal action the Federal
statutes provide for a parallel civil cause of action with statutory
damages of $1 million for each instance of hacking. State criminal laws
may also apply.

When the Lemond thing was going on I thought of you. I
suspect Lemond was in the market for a psychotic attorney
intensely focused on irrelevant tangents in his lawsuit
against Trek. Shame you weren't available.

Keep those asinine comments flowing, Stupid. ROTFL!!!!


Bob Schwartz