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On 4/9/2015 5:00 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, April 9, 2015 at 9:08:04 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 4/9/2015 10:34 AM, jbeattie wrote: On Thursday, April 9, 2015 at 3:03:07 AM UTC-7, Duane wrote: Like I said no one at the ER has ever asked me if I was wearing a helmet. In the US, the ED staff is working from a script -- an Epic charting system or home-grown electronic charting system that takes them through a list of questions for every MVA/bike incident. It will have a helmet question as a means of gathering information about helmet usage and screening for head injuries. It will also ask about alcohol use, smoking and a lot of other stuff that has appears to have nothing to do with road rash. ... which means, "Of course you should wear a helmet!" promotion is leading to the collection of data to be used for helmet promotion. But _only_ for people on two-wheelers* - i.e. bicycles and motorcycles. Yes, Frank, it's all part of the giant conspiracy out to enslave your head. Listen carefully . . . you can hear them whispering inside the walls. Huh. I thought those were mice. But is there any reason you use to justify fear mongering for such a safe activity? Since bicycling causes only a minuscule proportion of the nation's TBI, it seems the campaign makes less sense on a "cost to society" basis than this one: http://la.streetsblog.org/wp-content...crop-scale.jpg Since bicycling is at least as safe as many other activities (like walking down the street) it seems to fail on a "risk to the individual" basis. This makes more sense: http://www.copenhagenize.com/2009/08...od-helmet.html And since cycling's benefits tremendously outweigh it's tiny risks, it seems to fail on a "net benefit to society" basis, if almost anyone says "If it's that dangerous, I'm not riding." Is the justification just increased prosperity caused by styrofoam manufacturer trickle-down economics? -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On 4/8/2015 7:54 PM, John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Wed, 08 Apr 2015 09:51:58 -0500, AMuzi wrote: On 4/8/2015 9:35 AM, Joe Riel wrote: John B. Slocomb writes: On Wed, 08 Apr 2015 00:35:23 -0500, "T0m $herman" wrote: On 4/8/2015 12:30 AM, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Tue, 07 Apr 2015 23:44:26 -0500, "T0m $herman" wrote: On 2/22/2015 9:35 PM, Tim McNamara wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 05:52:02 -0800, wrote: On 2/22/2015 3:58 AM, Earls61 wrote: How is Jobst doing? Has anybody heard anything? snip At work, I know someone who knows him slightly. All I heard was that he has a caretaker. Think about the choices you make and the implications. The implication being...? The World's Greatest Expertâ„¢ thinks if Jobst Brandt had been wearing a Magic Foam Bicycle Hatâ„¢, he would still be actively riding and posting to RBT. I thought that Brandt broke his hip initially. Do they have helmets for hips now? According to Thompson, Rivara, Thompson, Magic Foam Bicycle Hats prevent 69% of leg injuries. Damn! I must be in the low 31% as it didn't help me a bit when I crashed :-( That explains why, after crashing and breaking my femur, the EMTs, nurses, and doctors asked whether I was wearing a helmet. Probably I was wearing it wrongly... http://www.wired.com/2014/01/how-to-wear-a-bike-helmet/ Two arms, two legs, and a head? Bike shops gonna get rich selling helmets. Knee, hip, back, elbow, and shoulder armor really does work, but it is too hot, restrictive, and heavy for any type of non-gravity powered bicycling. -- T0m $herm@n |
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On 4/9/2015 11:08 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/9/2015 10:34 AM, jbeattie wrote: On Thursday, April 9, 2015 at 3:03:07 AM UTC-7, Duane wrote: Like I said no one at the ER has ever asked me if I was wearing a helmet. In the US, the ED staff is working from a script -- an Epic charting system or home-grown electronic charting system that takes them through a list of questions for every MVA/bike incident. It will have a helmet question as a means of gathering information about helmet usage and screening for head injuries. It will also ask about alcohol use, smoking and a lot of other stuff that has appears to have nothing to do with road rash. ... which means, "Of course you should wear a helmet!" promotion is leading to the collection of data to be used for helmet promotion. But _only_ for people on two-wheelers* - i.e. bicycles and motorcycles. At least on the moto the helmet provides needed protection against small debris such as kicked up gravel, large insects (e.g. June bugs), rain (bare face at 70 mph - no thanks), sun UV, and cold, penetration by rocks and branches when crashing off-road, as well as abrasion protection when things go pear shaped. I still think something like the old Skid Lid would be good for cycling - much lower profile than an egg-crate lid, so less chance of one's head contacting the ground in a fall leading to internal brain rotation, while still providing bump and scrape protection for the scalp. -- T0m $herm@n |
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On 4/9/2015 4:57 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/9/2015 5:00 PM, jbeattie wrote: Yes, Frank, it's all part of the giant conspiracy out to enslave your head. Listen carefully . . . you can hear them whispering inside the walls. Huh. I thought those were mice. I once worked in a squirrel infested building - little buggers would run back and forth on top of the false ceiling. One day a women came screaming out of the bathroom because a squirrel fell through. -- T0m $herm@n |
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Yes, Frank, it's all part of the giant conspiracy out to enslave your head. Listen carefully . . . you can hear them whispering inside the walls.
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On 4/9/2015 8:14 PM, T0m $herman wrote:
On 4/9/2015 4:57 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 4/9/2015 5:00 PM, jbeattie wrote: Yes, Frank, it's all part of the giant conspiracy out to enslave your head. Listen carefully . . . you can hear them whispering inside the walls. Huh. I thought those were mice. I once worked in a squirrel infested building - little buggers would run back and forth on top of the false ceiling. One day a women came screaming out of the bathroom because a squirrel fell through. We've had two home invasions by red squirrels. The first one chewed through a fascia board to gain access to the attic. The second one tore through a screen to get at the bird seed my wife left in our bedroom. I've heard of houses burning down because of squirrel-chewed wiring. I now consider red squirrels to be enemies, suitable for target practice. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On Thu, 09 Apr 2015 19:02:03 -0500, "T0m $herman"
wrote: On 4/8/2015 7:54 PM, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Wed, 08 Apr 2015 09:51:58 -0500, AMuzi wrote: On 4/8/2015 9:35 AM, Joe Riel wrote: John B. Slocomb writes: On Wed, 08 Apr 2015 00:35:23 -0500, "T0m $herman" wrote: On 4/8/2015 12:30 AM, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Tue, 07 Apr 2015 23:44:26 -0500, "T0m $herman" wrote: On 2/22/2015 9:35 PM, Tim McNamara wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 05:52:02 -0800, wrote: On 2/22/2015 3:58 AM, Earls61 wrote: How is Jobst doing? Has anybody heard anything? snip At work, I know someone who knows him slightly. All I heard was that he has a caretaker. Think about the choices you make and the implications. The implication being...? The World's Greatest Expertâ„¢ thinks if Jobst Brandt had been wearing a Magic Foam Bicycle Hatâ„¢, he would still be actively riding and posting to RBT. I thought that Brandt broke his hip initially. Do they have helmets for hips now? According to Thompson, Rivara, Thompson, Magic Foam Bicycle Hats prevent 69% of leg injuries. Damn! I must be in the low 31% as it didn't help me a bit when I crashed :-( That explains why, after crashing and breaking my femur, the EMTs, nurses, and doctors asked whether I was wearing a helmet. Probably I was wearing it wrongly... http://www.wired.com/2014/01/how-to-wear-a-bike-helmet/ Two arms, two legs, and a head? Bike shops gonna get rich selling helmets. Knee, hip, back, elbow, and shoulder armor really does work, but it is too hot, restrictive, and heavy for any type of non-gravity powered bicycling. During your absence there was a discussion about helmets and someone commented that what he was looking for was light weight and cool. So perhaps foam armor with ventilation holes is the answer. -- Cheers, John B. |
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On Thursday, April 9, 2015 at 2:57:22 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/9/2015 5:00 PM, jbeattie wrote: On Thursday, April 9, 2015 at 9:08:04 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 4/9/2015 10:34 AM, jbeattie wrote: On Thursday, April 9, 2015 at 3:03:07 AM UTC-7, Duane wrote: Like I said no one at the ER has ever asked me if I was wearing a helmet. In the US, the ED staff is working from a script -- an Epic charting system or home-grown electronic charting system that takes them through a list of questions for every MVA/bike incident. It will have a helmet question as a means of gathering information about helmet usage and screening for head injuries. It will also ask about alcohol use, smoking and a lot of other stuff that has appears to have nothing to do with road rash. ... which means, "Of course you should wear a helmet!" promotion is leading to the collection of data to be used for helmet promotion. But _only_ for people on two-wheelers* - i.e. bicycles and motorcycles. Yes, Frank, it's all part of the giant conspiracy out to enslave your head. Listen carefully . . . you can hear them whispering inside the walls. Huh. I thought those were mice. But is there any reason you use to justify fear mongering for such a safe activity? If a person is in the emergency room with injuries from a bicycling-related accident, I think it is reasonable to ask about helmet use to (1) screen for head injury, and (2) gather data on helmet use. Keep in mind that the person is already in an emergency room for what he or she considers to be a serious injury(s). Most people do not go to the ER for road rash, but maybe that is SOP in Canada -- who knows. Anyway, I don't think fear needs to be mongered to people who have already been injured. It's not like they are ordering at McDonalds and the counter-person asks if they wear a helmet when riding a bike. Perhaps Epic could impose a requirement that physicians tell cyclists who have been involved in accidents that "cycling is safer than walking!" They could also have a requirement to tell people who tripped while walking that "walking is safer than driving!" And tell drivers that driving is safer than skiing . . . and tell skiers that skiing is safer than, well, bull fighting! Everyone should feel good about everything because we're all unique little snowflakes and winners in our own right! Damn, this is a bummer. Bicycling is at the top of the list for sports-related TBIs. http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6039a1.htm Epic is going to have to punt on that one. -- Jay Beattie. |
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common sense ! which is surprise tho Golf izza stunner... Skakal vs The State Fud vs Fud ? boing ? I had thought Golf was infor ankles and social diseases |
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