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Beauty vs. the Beast
Bill Funk wrote: "Equal law" is not fair when you have big fat deadly SUVs pitted against fragile bikes. SUVs? What's the connection here? Get hit by an SUV or a Toyota, the result is pretty much the same. Well, let's the SUV is more likely to kill you. I think it's like 16 times more deadly to the passengers in the little Toyota than another car. Let alone if it hits someone in an aluminum bike. Beauty vs. the Beast. Of course equal law should apply here; bike riders aren't car-proof. And they are even dangerous while parked: They are oversized and forced cyclists into the lane, ie into their death. |
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Beauty vs. the Beast
donquijote1954 wrote:
Bill Funk wrote: "Equal law" is not fair when you have big fat deadly SUVs pitted against fragile bikes. SUVs? What's the connection here? Get hit by an SUV or a Toyota, the result is pretty much the same. Well, let's the SUV is more likely to kill you. I think it's like 16 times more deadly to the passengers in the little Toyota than another car. Let alone if it hits someone in an aluminum bike. Beauty vs. the Beast. Of course equal law should apply here; bike riders aren't car-proof. And they are even dangerous while parked: They are oversized and forced cyclists into the lane, ie into their death. Duh, You do know how to get off the bike and walk it around death traps, don't you? Survival takes precedence over "I rode ALL the way.". Bill (not that stupid, and no clip hassles) Baka |
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it's better to be alive and humiliated than proud and dead
Bill Baka wrote: And they are even dangerous while parked: They are oversized and forced cyclists into the lane, ie into their death. Duh, You do know how to get off the bike and walk it around death traps, don't you? Survival takes precedence over "I rode ALL the way.". Bill (not that stupid, and no clip hassles) Baka The beast (the SUV) may have an evolutionary advantage over the bike (survival), but I find it humiliating. What the heck, it's better to be alive and humiliated than proud and dead, right? |
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it's better to be alive and humiliated than proud and dead
"donquijote1954" wrote in message oups.com... Bill Baka wrote: And they are even dangerous while parked: They are oversized and forced cyclists into the lane, ie into their death. Duh, You do know how to get off the bike and walk it around death traps, don't you? Survival takes precedence over "I rode ALL the way.". Bill (not that stupid, and no clip hassles) Baka The beast (the SUV) may have an evolutionary advantage over the bike (survival), but I find it humiliating. What the heck, it's better to be alive and humiliated than proud and dead, right? I'm really glad all the big bad SUV's are out chasing you and leaving the rest of us alone. |
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it's better to be alive and humiliated than proud and dead
di wrote: The beast (the SUV) may have an evolutionary advantage over the bike (survival), but I find it humiliating. What the heck, it's better to be alive and humiliated than proud and dead, right? I'm really glad all the big bad SUV's are out chasing you and leaving the rest of us alone. No, if you don't hunt your beast, your beast may eat you. I hunt mine, you hunt yours. Or is it that you ride in a controlled environment without beasts? I know a guy who's like 70, but looks nice and fit. I asked him what was his secret. He said, "Ride a bike." I asked, "How come you are still alive?" He replies, "Of course, I ride a stationary bike!" |
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it's better to be alive and humiliated than proud and dead
Scott en Aztlán wrote: I'm really glad all the big bad SUV's are out chasing you and leaving the rest of us alone. Actually, Donkey Hotay might be onto something here. Maybe SUVs *do* have an appetite for pedalcyclists... I'm not actually saying that SUVs have the intention to eat the cyclist. They are just negligent about it, or perhaps after eating a little Toyota, they are looking for desert. -- I'm a wreckless driver and damn proud of it! Any day I'm gonna see a bumper sticker that goes: "Serial Killer, and Damn Proud About it!" Or "We Support Our Troops, Even Though They Went Looking For Oil in Iraq, and Damn Proud About it!" |
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Don't worry, be happy
di wrote: What the heck, it's better to be alive and humiliated than proud and dead, right? I'm really glad all the big bad SUV's are out chasing you and leaving the rest of us alone. OK, there are no beasts out there. Don't worry, be happy... 'For more than 30 years, the government has been ramming cars into walls in an effort to make car crashes safe. The public has been conditioned to believe that seatbelts, airbags and more "crashworthy" vehicles are the best ways to protect us from harm on the roads. Meanwhile, the most basic strategies to deter dangerous driving and prevent crashes have been ignored. "It's No Accident" provides a rare glimpse into how the government got seduced by the promise of "safe crashing." It then examines the major factors involved in crashes today, including speeding, aggressive driving, distractions (e.g. cell phones) and drowsy driving. The author reveals that many dangerous behaviors are now legally PROMOTED by businesses, and that drivers who kill often walk away with just a small fine. This well-documented expose is a must-read for anyone concerned about violent death and injury on our roads and how to stop it.' http://www.lulu.com/content/186268 |
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yet another argument in favor of THE REVOLUTION
Sure it's an oversimplification: Not all people in SUVs are predators
(some have been duped by advertising) and not all cyclists are prey. Actually some cyclists are predators and some are both cyclists and SUV owners, which helps explain why they favor the lion... "Perhaps the COMPETITION between SUVs, BAD DRIVERS and INDIFFERENT OFFICIALS on the one hand and the SMALLER CARS and a handful of daring CYCLISTS on the other, which is taking place on our WILD, DARWINISTIC ROADS, can be best understood as a confrontation between LION and MONKEY, where THE ROADS ARE THE JUNGLE. Then the MONKEY'S REVOLUTION is the struggle of David vs. Goliath. And this conflict, which could be easily solved with some COOPERATION and POLITICAL WILL, is yet another argument in favor of THE REVOLUTION..." http://webspawner.com/users/bikeforpeace I think nothing else needs to be said. |
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yet another argument in favor of THE REVOLUTION
On 10 Sep 2006 16:01:42 -0700, "donquijote1954"
wrote: Sure it's an oversimplification: Not all people in SUVs are predators (some have been duped by advertising) and not all cyclists are prey. Actually some cyclists are predators and some are both cyclists and SUV owners, which helps explain why they favor the lion... "Perhaps the COMPETITION between SUVs, BAD DRIVERS and INDIFFERENT OFFICIALS on the one hand and the SMALLER CARS and a handful of daring CYCLISTS on the other, which is taking place on our WILD, DARWINISTIC ROADS, can be best understood as a confrontation between LION and MONKEY, where THE ROADS ARE THE JUNGLE. Then the MONKEY'S REVOLUTION is the struggle of David vs. Goliath. And this conflict, which could be easily solved with some COOPERATION and POLITICAL WILL, is yet another argument in favor of THE REVOLUTION..." http://webspawner.com/users/bikeforpeace I think nothing else needs to be said. I've been saying for years that penalties for reckless driving should vary with the listed weight of the vehicle. That would promp drivers to not buy the huge SUVs and if they did, to drive them carefully. If you say are caught doing 80 in a 60 in a 2000 pound car, you pay a $500. Do the same in a 6000 pound 'Burb and the fine is $2500 and license suspension for 6 months. Stop coddling these killers. |
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yet another argument in favor of THE REVOLUTION
On 2006-09-11, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
On 10 Sep 2006 16:01:42 -0700, "donquijote1954" wrote: Sure it's an oversimplification: Not all people in SUVs are predators (some have been duped by advertising) and not all cyclists are prey. Actually some cyclists are predators and some are both cyclists and SUV owners, which helps explain why they favor the lion... "Perhaps the COMPETITION between SUVs, BAD DRIVERS and INDIFFERENT OFFICIALS on the one hand and the SMALLER CARS and a handful of daring CYCLISTS on the other, which is taking place on our WILD, DARWINISTIC ROADS, can be best understood as a confrontation between LION and MONKEY, where THE ROADS ARE THE JUNGLE. Then the MONKEY'S REVOLUTION is the struggle of David vs. Goliath. And this conflict, which could be easily solved with some COOPERATION and POLITICAL WILL, is yet another argument in favor of THE REVOLUTION..." http://webspawner.com/users/bikeforpeace I think nothing else needs to be said. I've been saying for years that penalties for reckless driving should vary with the listed weight of the vehicle. That would promp drivers to not buy the huge SUVs and if they did, to drive them carefully. If you say are caught doing 80 in a 60 in a 2000 pound car, you pay a $500. Do the same in a 6000 pound 'Burb and the fine is $2500 and license suspension for 6 months. Stop coddling these killers. They need to do as in some european countries. The cost of the ticket should be based on the driver's income. In most cases, the resulting fine would have the same effect. |
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