Educational article

Here's a good, educational article. I won't be able to discuss it,
but it's worth reading:

http://iamtraffic.org/equality/the-m...of-bicyclists/

BTW ... just finished a nighttime ride in Steamboat Springs, CO. My
wife and I comfortably controlled the entire right lane on Main
Street. No hassles at all, as usual.

- Frank Krygowski

Frank Krygowski writes:

Here's a good, educational article. I won't be able to discuss it,
but it's worth reading:

http://iamtraffic.org/equality/the-m...of-bicyclists/

BTW ... just finished a nighttime ride in Steamboat Springs, CO. My
wife and I comfortably controlled the entire right lane on Main
Street. No hassles at all, as usual.

Do you mean Lincoln Ave (40)? Through the downtown area the
posted speed limit varies between 25 and 35 mph.

--
Joe Riel

http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick...80487%2C%20USA

6 or 40 ?

On Jun 8, 10:25 pm, Frank Krygowski wrote:
Here's a good, educational article. I won't be able to discuss it,
but it's worth reading:

http://iamtraffic.org/equality/the-m...of-bicyclists/


Just glanced at the article (scripts hung my browser), but what is the
solution? You don't like Monderman where controls are removed and
lanes are *narrowed* to make people figure out what to do for
themselves, and you don't like special facilities for bikes. You just
want bikes to be treated like cars. That's not going to happen. You
can't roll back the clock to horse-and-buggy and tophat days.

I like the idea of a combination of narrow, low traffic roads with
minimal controls, and separate facilities for roads with heavier,
faster traffic that requires more controls.

BTW ... just finished a nighttime ride in Steamboat Springs, CO. My
wife and I comfortably controlled the entire right lane on Main
Street. No hassles at all, as usual.


Sincerely glad you're "comfortable", and sincerely wish you a good and
happy time.

On 6/9/2013 12:25 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
Here's a good, educational article. I won't be able to discuss it,
but it's worth reading:

http://iamtraffic.org/equality/the-m...of-bicyclists/

BTW ... just finished a nighttime ride in Steamboat Springs, CO. My
wife and I comfortably controlled the entire right lane on Main
Street. No hassles at all, as usual.

- Frank Krygowski


Steamboat Springs may or may not be typical at any given moment

http://sfist.com/2012/03/07/muni_bus...er_cyclist.php

'lane control' runs right up against physics sometimes

http://laist.com/2013/03/26/18-year-..._killed_by.php

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Jun 8, 10:25*pm, Frank Krygowski wrote:
Here's a good, educational article. *I won't be able to discuss it,
but it's worth reading:

http://iamtraffic.org/equality/the-m...of-bicyclists/

BTW ... just finished a nighttime ride in Steamboat Springs, CO. My
wife and I comfortably controlled the entire right lane on Main
Street. *No hassles at all, as usual.

- Frank Krygowski

Yesterday, my son and I were controlling this road: http://tinyurl.com/p2zqmr8
This general area. http://www.flickr.com/photos/rowdey/5546034436
I have to gloat since it rains most of the time. But yesterday it was
really sunny,and I burned up my arms.

Today it was controlling various city streets with some friends. I'm
going to go in to the yard and control some bushes with my gas
trimmer. I intend to dominate my dinner tonight and maybe enslave the
television later on. Grrrr.

-- Jay Beattie.

On Sunday, June 9, 2013 4:55:11 PM UTC-4, Jay Beattie wrote:
On Jun 8, 10:25*pm, Frank Krygowski wrote:

Here's a good, educational article. *I won't be able to discuss it,

but it's worth reading:



http://iamtraffic.org/equality/the-m...of-bicyclists/



BTW ... just finished a nighttime ride in Steamboat Springs, CO. My

wife and I comfortably controlled the entire right lane on Main

Street. *No hassles at all, as usual.



- Frank Krygowski



Yesterday, my son and I were controlling this road: http://tinyurl.com/p2zqmr8

This general area. http://www.flickr.com/photos/rowdey/5546034436

I have to gloat since it rains most of the time. But yesterday it was

really sunny,and I burned up my arms.



Today it was controlling various city streets with some friends. I'm

going to go in to the yard and control some bushes with my gas

trimmer. I intend to dominate my dinner tonight and maybe enslave the

television later on. Grrrr.



-- Jay Beattie.



doahn froget waving behind cars around into a blind corner

On 10/06/13 06:55, Jay Beattie wrote:
On Jun 8, 10:25 pm, Frank Krygowski wrote:
Here's a good, educational article. I won't be able to discuss it,
but it's worth reading:

http://iamtraffic.org/equality/the-m...of-bicyclists/

BTW ... just finished a nighttime ride in Steamboat Springs, CO. My
wife and I comfortably controlled the entire right lane on Main
Street. No hassles at all, as usual.


Yesterday, my son and I were controlling this road: http://tinyurl.com/p2zqmr8
This general area. http://www.flickr.com/photos/rowdey/5546034436
I have to gloat since it rains most of the time. But yesterday it was
really sunny,and I burned up my arms.

Today it was controlling various city streets with some friends. I'm
going to go in to the yard and control some bushes with my gas
trimmer. I intend to dominate my dinner tonight and maybe enslave the
television later on. Grrrr.


Yesterday...

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/cyclist-ki...609-2nxs8.html

--
JS

On 6/9/2013 10:02 PM, James wrote:
On 10/06/13 06:55, Jay Beattie wrote:
On Jun 8, 10:25 pm, Frank Krygowski wrote:
Here's a good, educational article. I won't be able to discuss it,
but it's worth reading:

http://iamtraffic.org/equality/the-m...of-bicyclists/

BTW ... just finished a nighttime ride in Steamboat Springs, CO. My
wife and I comfortably controlled the entire right lane on Main
Street. No hassles at all, as usual.


Yesterday, my son and I were controlling this road:
http://tinyurl.com/p2zqmr8
This general area. http://www.flickr.com/photos/rowdey/5546034436
I have to gloat since it rains most of the time. But yesterday it was
really sunny,and I burned up my arms.

Today it was controlling various city streets with some friends. I'm
going to go in to the yard and control some bushes with my gas
trimmer. I intend to dominate my dinner tonight and maybe enslave the
television later on. Grrrr.


Yesterday...

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/cyclist-ki...609-2nxs8.html



Same thing here. The truck driver, bus driver, soccer mom or whoever is
driving the MV gets treated for shock. The cyclists usually fares worse.

On Jun 9, 2:03*pm, AMuzi wrote:
On 6/9/2013 12:25 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:

Here's a good, educational article. *I won't be able to discuss it,
but it's worth reading:

http://iamtraffic.org/equality/the-m...of-bicyclists/

BTW ... just finished a nighttime ride in Steamboat Springs, CO. My
wife and I comfortably controlled the entire right lane on Main
Street. *No hassles at all, as usual.

- Frank Krygowski

Steamboat Springs may or may not be typical at any given moment

http://sfist.com/2012/03/07/muni_bus...er_cyclist.php

'lane control' runs right up against physics sometimes

http://laist.com/2013/03/26/18-year-..._killed_by.php

--
Andrew Muzi
* www.yellowjersey.org/
* Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Andrew, if you're going to disagree with the concept of lane control,
you should post articles showing a failure of lane control.

What you've posted was one where a cyclist rode "parallel to" a bus
and crashed due to riding into a streetcar track's slot. That's the
opposite of lane control. The other article was a kid riding
southbound, through an intersection into the path of a westbound bus.
That too is totally irrelevant.

The question, as usual, is this: If there's not room for a motorist
to safely pass a bicyclist, what should the cyclist do?

The answer is not "ride in the gutter" or "ride into a road hazard" so
the motorist suffers no delay at all. That attitude argues against
our right to the road.

- Frank Krygowski