Liz Hatch Selects European Training Location Based On Hearsay

Tom: Take out your butt plug.


"Tom Kunich" wrote in message
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Think that up all by yourself, did you?

The usual intellectual conversations. Remember that at one time we had
some pros checking in now and again. But it wasn't long before the best
and brightest here started insulting them. Now the highlight of the day is
when Henry checks in under his "assumed" name since he doesn't want to be
associated with his own comments.

Glad I put him on ignore long ago. But there are plenty of others.

The best thing is to just post about bicycling and forget these other
jerks whose idea of a great ride is down to the corner and back. Rumor is
that Henry doesn't even ride any more and yet here he is. I wonder how
many other smart assed posters here aren't riders?

I still have to cover another 250 miles by the end of the year to break
10,000 miles. I'll try not to repeat that many miles in a year though.

On Dec 7, 12:15*pm, "Tom Kunich" wrote:

Rumor is that Henry doesn't even ride any more and yet here he is. I wonder how many other
smart assed posters here aren't riders?



The world is full of sports that have fans of all types that have
never, ever played the particular sport. How many female NFL fans
have ever played football, or how many male fans have ever played
football once they got out of high school? How about NASCAR fans?
Any guess as to how many of them have ever raced stock cars? These
folks do NOT give each other **** 'cause they haven't ever been in the
game. It's accepted that their enthusiasm for and knowledge of the
game is tempered by a lack of true personal experience.

But, for some silly ass reason some folks on this forum think that
anyone who doesn't ride a bike shouldn't have anything to say about
bike racing. What's really damn funny is the guy who most often
bitches about this has got the crazy idea that anyone gives a ****
about how much he rides his bike.

No one gives a damn, dumbass.

Fred

On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 06:06:12 -0800 (PST), Fred
wrote:

But, for some silly ass reason some folks on this forum think that
anyone who doesn't ride a bike shouldn't have anything to say about
bike racing.

Actually, having listened to bike racers ad nauseum trying to explain
the tactics of a amateur race, you realize that racing and
understanding what happens in a race is purely coincendental. Some
bike racers know what happens in a race, others are less observant and
knowledgeable than the racer mom that has watched races for three
years and actually pays attention (statement of fact from actual
experience).

If you were to take the average bike racer at a non-Cat I race and bet
them on which group would close on another and when, against the
average official that has been timing these things to decide when and
what to do when two groups combine as they cross the start/finish, the
officials would win the vast majority of the bets. I never paid that
much attention on the back of a bike, since I had practically no
control over what took place anyway. As an official, you can't be a
good one and not pay attention.

And a bad bike racer is going to apply years of bad experience and
what they THOUGHT was happening. It can be an endless source of
amusement to listen to their analysis, but you have to remember that
they mean it as serious.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 06:06:12 -0800 (PST), Fred
wrote:

But, for some silly ass reason some folks on this forum think that
anyone who doesn't ride a bike shouldn't have anything to say about
bike racing.

My second observation, completely a generality, is that the bike
racers that knew what they were doing and knew tactics (as opposed to
say, a certain rider JH that pretty much would get to the front, put
his elbows to the bar and ride aero off the front for the rest of the
race), is that the racers tended to argue about what the riders in the
race should do, while the officials tended to discuss what they were
actually doing. You can see the same cross currents here at times -
the advantage of the officials' position is that at least you are
discussing what the riders could do. An argument that a particular
rider should have closed a gap, as an example, is sublimely absurd. As
long as they all execute that strategy, we would have a hundred plus
riders crossing the line shoulder to shoulder and the rest with the
same time.

And as a rider, when you heard a person shouting from the curb, "Close
the gap" or "Chase them down", did you ever have a conscious thought
that wasn't 50% obscenties?

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

On Dec 8, 10:42*am, wrote:
On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 06:06:12 -0800 (PST), Fred
wrote:

But, for some silly ass reason some folks on this forum think that
anyone who doesn't ride a bike shouldn't have anything to say about
bike racing.

Actually, having listened to bike racers ad nauseum trying to explain
the tactics of a amateur race, you realize that racing and
understanding what happens in a race is purely coincendental. Some
bike racers know what happens in a race, others are less observant and
knowledgeable than the racer mom that has watched races for three
years and actually pays attention (statement of fact from actual
experience).

If you were to take the average bike racer at a non-Cat I race and bet
them on which group would close on another and when, against the
average official that has been timing these things to decide when and
what to do when two groups combine as they cross the start/finish, the
officials would win the vast majority of the bets. I never paid that
much attention on the back of a bike, since I had practically no
control over what took place anyway. As an official, you can't be a
good one and not pay attention.

And a bad bike racer is going to apply years of bad experience and
what they THOUGHT was happening. It can be an endless source of
amusement to listen to their analysis, but you have to remember that
they mean it as serious.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

Judge Chamberlain Haller: Mr. Gambini?
Vinny Gambini: Yes, sir?
Judge Chamberlain Haller: That is a lucid, intelligent, well thought-
out objection.
Vinny Gambini: Thank you, sir.
Judge Chamberlain Haller: Overruled.

Fred wrote:
The world is full of sports that have fans of all types that have
never, ever played the particular sport. How many female NFL fans
have ever played football, or how many male fans have ever played
football once they got out of high school? How about NASCAR fans?
Any guess as to how many of them have ever raced stock cars? These
folks do NOT give each other **** 'cause they haven't ever been in the
game. It's accepted that their enthusiasm for and knowledge of the
game is tempered by a lack of true personal experience.

But, for some silly ass reason some folks on this forum think that
anyone who doesn't ride a bike shouldn't have anything to say about
bike racing. What's really damn funny is the guy who most often
bitches about this has got the crazy idea that anyone gives a ****
about how much he rides his bike.

Ah, so posting to alt.weird.sex doesn't necessarily mean what people may
think it means.

Donald Munro wrote:
Fred wrote:
The world is full of sports that have fans of all types that have
never, ever played the particular sport. How many female NFL fans
have ever played football, or how many male fans have ever played
football once they got out of high school? How about NASCAR fans?
Any guess as to how many of them have ever raced stock cars? These
folks do NOT give each other **** 'cause they haven't ever been in the
game. It's accepted that their enthusiasm for and knowledge of the
game is tempered by a lack of true personal experience.

But, for some silly ass reason some folks on this forum think that
anyone who doesn't ride a bike shouldn't have anything to say about
bike racing. What's really damn funny is the guy who most often
bitches about this has got the crazy idea that anyone gives a ****
about how much he rides his bike.

Ah, so posting to alt.weird.sex doesn't necessarily mean what people may
think it means.

Crap! I guess this means that all my years in alt.genius.mensa were
completely wasted!

In article , z wrote:

bar wrote:
On Dec 6, 9:13 pm, "Wife Beater" wrote:
http://twitter.com/Liz_Hatch/status/6413357929

Where does she get her money?

Tiger.

Had a conversation come up today that included stuttering, so I decided
to look up famous stutterers. Wiki includes Tiger. I wonder if that just
started last week.

Lester Hayes. Played for the Raiders. People assumed
he was slow upstairs. Al Davis helped him work through
the stutter by finding a professional and persuading
Lester to do it. Then they could not shut him up.

"At autograph signings, he maintains a constant flow of chatter,
entertaining his fans with his wit and style."

--
Michael Press

In article
,
Scott wrote:

On Dec 8, 10:42Â*am, wrote:
On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 06:06:12 -0800 (PST), Fred
wrote:

But, for some silly ass reason some folks on this forum think that
anyone who doesn't ride a bike shouldn't have anything to say about
bike racing.

Actually, having listened to bike racers ad nauseum trying to explain
the tactics of a amateur race, you realize that racing and
understanding what happens in a race is purely coincendental. Some
bike racers know what happens in a race, others are less observant and
knowledgeable than the racer mom that has watched races for three
years and actually pays attention (statement of fact from actual
experience).

If you were to take the average bike racer at a non-Cat I race and bet
them on which group would close on another and when, against the
average official that has been timing these things to decide when and
what to do when two groups combine as they cross the start/finish, the
officials would win the vast majority of the bets. I never paid that
much attention on the back of a bike, since I had practically no
control over what took place anyway. As an official, you can't be a
good one and not pay attention.

And a bad bike racer is going to apply years of bad experience and
what they THOUGHT was happening. It can be an endless source of
amusement to listen to their analysis, but you have to remember that
they mean it as serious.

Judge Chamberlain Haller: Mr. Gambini?
Vinny Gambini: Yes, sir?
Judge Chamberlain Haller: That is a lucid, intelligent, well thought-
out objection.
Vinny Gambini: Thank you, sir.
Judge Chamberlain Haller: Overruled.

That movie had some incandescent moments.

--
Michael Press

On Tue, 08 Dec 2009 21:17:38 -0800, Michael Press
wrote:

Judge Chamberlain Haller: Mr. Gambini?
Vinny Gambini: Yes, sir?
Judge Chamberlain Haller: That is a lucid, intelligent, well thought-
out objection.
Vinny Gambini: Thank you, sir.
Judge Chamberlain Haller: Overruled.

That movie had some incandescent moments.

We have four movies that we both watch at least once a year, usually
more often. I insist on The Magnificent Seven, never mind I have
already memorized the dialogue, we agree on The Big Country, mostly
for the Burl Ives moments (only person who could say "Teach your
Grandmother to suck eggs' with authority and he DID kill Chuck
Connors), she insists on To Kill A Mockingbird, even though she has
memorized the entire movie, and My Cousing Vinnie is purely a joint
choice. I think my wife would watch the entire movie just for the
ending...

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...