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  #41  
Old December 9th 09, 01:40 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Howard Kveck
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In article ,
"Tom Kunich" wrote:

In another couple of days I'll have 10,000 miles for the year. Exactly how
many do you have again? Maybe you ought to tell me more about how to ride or
how you have a better understanding of racing.


Tom, the number of miles racked up in a year (at 14 mph) by an out of work geezer
has no bearing whatsoever on the level of knowledge of racing by said geezer. Just
sayin'.

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  #42  
Old December 9th 09, 02:23 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Amit Ghosh wrote:
On Dec 7, 5:01 pm, "Tom Kunich" wrote:

You mean that guy who was pretending to be clean and was saying everyone
else was dirty?


pole smoker,

that's not what he did. he claimed ferrari helped him dope with EPO in
the 90s and armstrong objected to that since ferrari was his advisor
at the time.

ferrari was subsequently convicted of sporting fraud (i.e. he was
guilty of breaking a law, not simply a sporting violation) at which
point armstrong was forced to cut his ties to ferrari.

simeoni didn't pretend to be clean - he actually admitted to doping
but armstrong called him a liar. why did armstrong make the "shut your
mouth" gesture to him ?



Your version of events meshes with events as reported in Velo News and
Cycling News. Tom's version is similar to what 30-40% of RBR was saying
at the time.
  #43  
Old December 9th 09, 03:59 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
William R. Mattil
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William Asher wrote:
Tom Kunich wrote:

"Amit Ghosh" wrote in message
..
.
On Dec 7, 5:12 pm, "Tom Kunich" wrote:

Consider - Cipollini or Cavendish who appear barely capable of
making it to
the end of a mountainous stage that has a fairly long flat before
the finish. Yet they can catch the peloton and then blow their
doors off in the
final 200 meters.
dumbass,

Imagine this coming from you.

those sprinters get dropped because they don't have enough power to
weight ratio on the climbs. usually when they chase back they are in
a group and they benefit from drafting in a group. even someone of
your inexperience should realize this.

In another couple of days I'll have 10,000 miles for the year. Exactly
how many do you have again? Maybe you ought to tell me more about how
to ride or how you have a better understanding of racing.


By your logic, you would object to Eddie B. commenting on racing tactics
and training regimes since he doesn't ride and therefore you obviously
know more than he does.

What I like about this is that I can point out how you make no sense
without getting slagged in response, since you'll never see this.



Maybe - he just might .... g


Bill

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Old December 9th 09, 04:33 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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In article ,
Donald Munro wrote:

Randall wrote:
I was disappointed at the cheap shots Armstrong and Contador traded.
TDF champions need to present a better example for the sport. With the
exception of this minor incident Lance has conducted himself a true
professional. This what I admire most about Lance.


You mean like the time he chased down Simeoni ?


I admire that chase and chastising.
Subsequent events show Simeoni to
be exactly the kind of mouthy twerp
without the heft to back it up that
we love to see punked out.

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Old December 9th 09, 04:57 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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In article
,
bar wrote:

On Dec 8, 11:14Â*am, RicodJour wrote:
On Dec 7, 3:07Â*am, "
wrote:

On Dec 6, 11:29Â*pm, Randall wrote:


""For Contador, with an effort of twenty minutes at 90% VO2max, weight
of 62 kg, maximum aerobic power is 493 watts, which gives an oxygen
consumption of 6.17 liters / min: 99.5 ml / min / kg!" Vayer wrote.


LeMond, in response, called on Contador to prove that he is physically
capable of achieving these numbers without the use of performance-
enhancing products, "assuming the validity of the calculations"."


This is a great idea, finally we can dispense with
all of this expensive and tedious racing, get the damn
bicycles off the road, and simply have the competitors
all blow into VO2 machines to determine the legitimate
and rightful winners.


American Flyers.
It obviously works.

R


Hm, Rae Dawn Chong or Liz Hatch ...


What's the difference?

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Old December 9th 09, 05:12 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Fred Fredburger[_8_]
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Michael Press wrote:
In article ,
Donald Munro wrote:

Randall wrote:
I was disappointed at the cheap shots Armstrong and Contador traded.
TDF champions need to present a better example for the sport. With the
exception of this minor incident Lance has conducted himself a true
professional. This what I admire most about Lance.

You mean like the time he chased down Simeoni ?


I admire that chase and chastising.
Subsequent events show Simeoni to
be exactly the kind of mouthy twerp
without the heft to back it up that
we love to see punked out.


Well said.
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Old December 9th 09, 08:41 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Donald Munro[_5_]
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Howard Kveck wrote:
Tom, the number of miles racked up in a year (at 14 mph) by an out of work geezer
has no bearing whatsoever on the level of knowledge of racing by said geezer. Just
sayin'.


Kunich takes the term 'junk miles' to new heights.
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Old December 9th 09, 09:12 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Donald Munro[_5_]
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Randall wrote:
I was disappointed at the cheap shots Armstrong and Contador traded.
TDF champions need to present a better example for the sport. With the
exception of this minor incident Lance has conducted himself a true
professional. This what I admire most about Lance.


Donald Munro wrote:
You mean like the time he chased down Simeoni ?


Michael Press wrote:
I admire that chase and chastising.
Subsequent events show Simeoni to
be exactly the kind of mouthy twerp
without the heft to back it up that
we love to see punked out.


The OP was talking about Armstrong's alleged (I love that word)
professionalism, not Simeoni's verbal attributes.
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Old December 9th 09, 05:17 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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William R. Mattil wrote:

William Asher wrote:

What I like about this is that I can point out how you make no sense
without getting slagged in response, since you'll never see this.


Maybe - he just might .... g


You *******. It was like I could spray paint on his house with special
paint only sane people could see.

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Old December 9th 09, 06:15 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
William R. Mattil
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William Asher wrote:
William R. Mattil wrote:

William Asher wrote:

What I like about this is that I can point out how you make no sense
without getting slagged in response, since you'll never see this.

Maybe - he just might .... g


You *******.



You're Welcome !


Bill



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