Katie Cop-Out Cries about Prize Money

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/comp...e-pools-unfair

Question: Would Katie being crying about the prize money and lack of
sponsorship if she had won worlds, which would have prevented her
sponsor from bailing on her?

http://cxmagazine.com/compton-loses-...s-mtb-schedule



Thanks,

Magilla

On Aug 19, 10:27*am, MagillaGorilla wrote:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/comp...-in-prize-pool...

Question: Would Katie being crying about the prize money and lack of
sponsorship if she had won worlds, which would have prevented her
sponsor from bailing on her?

http://cxmagazine.com/compton-loses-...educes-mtb-sch...

Thanks,

Magilla

Maybe. Times are tough all over. Win or lose, regardless of gender,
cyclists have expenses to meet. We're in the first decade of the 21st
century; in pro sport of any variety, there should be no room for a
prize money gap. Sure, World Champions can get better "appearance
fees", but prize money should be equal. The argument in tennis has
always been that women only play 3 sets; men play 5. Sport isn't
piecework. Unfortunately, it comes down to visibility for the event
and rider sponsors. Cyclists have dozens of logos on their kit,
everyone knows who's riding whose bike, wearing whose shoes, etc.
Events need spectators, concession sales, etc. It's all a commercial
enterprise/boondoggle. Ultimately, the riders are the product-
regardless of gender , and they should be paid the same amounts.

Tom

On Aug 19, 11:27*am, MagillaGorilla wrote:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/comp...-in-prize-pool...

If I hadn't looked at the URL, I would have thought that to be an
article from The Onion: "Female cyclist discovers that life is unfair"

On Aug 19, 10:18*am, " wrote:
On Aug 19, 10:27*am, MagillaGorilla wrote:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/comp...-in-prize-pool...

Question: Would Katie being crying about the prize money and lack of
sponsorship if she had won worlds, which would have prevented her
sponsor from bailing on her?

http://cxmagazine.com/compton-loses-...educes-mtb-sch...

Thanks,

Magilla

Maybe. Times are tough all over. Win or lose, regardless of gender,
cyclists have expenses to meet. We're in the first decade of the 21st
century; in pro sport of any variety, there should be no room for a
prize money gap. Sure, World Champions can get better "appearance
fees", but prize money should be equal. The argument in tennis has
always been that women only play 3 sets; men play 5. Sport isn't
piecework. Unfortunately, it comes down to visibility for the event
and rider sponsors. Cyclists have dozens of logos on their kit,
everyone knows who's riding whose bike, wearing whose shoes, etc.
Events need spectators, concession sales, etc. It's all a commercial
enterprise/boondoggle. Ultimately, the riders are the product-
regardless of gender , and they should be paid the same amounts.

Tom

We're not talking about tenured grade school teachers in a public
school system. There is absolutely no basis for equal prize money, if
as you say, the riders are the product. The riders who bring in more
revenues get more money, the riders who don't bring in the revenues
don't get as much. Like you said, WC's get bigger appearance fees.
Why? Because they bring in the spectators.

As in most commercial ventures, the market sets itself and in the case
of pro cycling the market has decided that there is little value added
by female pros, and thus they aren't paid very much. I know this
won't ever happen, but imagine these scenarios: normal CX race, men
and women racers. Now, imagine two variations, one just men and one
just women. My guess would be that you'd see almost no decrease in
the turnout of spectators for the men only event, and you'd see very
few people show up to watch only the women.

I'm not saying it's right (or wrong), just saying that's how it is.

Ultimately, the riders are the product-
regardless of gender , and they should be paid the same amounts

when women's fields are as deep as the men, and when the racing is of
the same caliber (though not necessarily the same speed) ... then the
prize lists should be equal.

either that or they need to make it more entertaining by wearing (the
equivalent of) tennis dresses.

" wrote:

Ultimately, the riders are the product-
regardless of gender , and they should be paid the same amounts

when women's fields are as deep as the men, and when the racing is of
the same caliber (though not necessarily the same speed) ... then the
prize lists should be equal.

either that or they need to make it more entertaining by wearing (the
equivalent of) tennis dresses.

Dumbass,

It has nothing to do with relative competition or depth of field. It
has to do with media impressions and TV ratings. It doesn't matter how
good the women basketball players in the WNBA get...they will never make
the millions the men in the NBA make because they don't have the TV
contracts the NBA has.

Women are decades behind every men's sport except for tennis and perhaps
golf.

Thanks,


Magilla

" wrote:

On Aug 19, 11:27*am, MagillaGorilla wrote:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/comp...-in-prize-pool...

If I hadn't looked at the URL, I would have thought that to be an
article from The Onion: "Female cyclist discovers that life is unfair"

If Katie wanted to find a sponsor for this year, she should have tried some
make-up instead of crying to the media.

Thanks,

Magilla

On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:27:05 -0400, MagillaGorilla
wrote:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/comp...e-pools-unfair

Question: Would Katie being crying about the prize money and lack of
sponsorship if she had won worlds, which would have prevented her
sponsor from bailing on her?

http://cxmagazine.com/compton-loses-...s-mtb-schedule



Thanks,

Magilla

What is odd about this rider's face? Forehead doesn't look right.

Nobody wrote:
What is odd about this rider's face? Forehead doesn't look right.

(http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/phot...s-unfair/22593)
May seem that way because her eyebrows are light and low.

In other news, http://news.google.com/news?q=Caster+Semenya

On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:54:46 +0200, Susan Walker
wrote:

Nobody wrote:
What is odd about this rider's face? Forehead doesn't look right.

(http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/phot...s-unfair/22593)
May seem that way because her eyebrows are light and low.

In other news, http://news.google.com/news?q=Caster+Semenya

It is the part above the eyebrows, but not the shade, and something.
men have and women, typically do not. Speculation on what causes that
will be left up to the gentle reader.


PS sorry for getting cranky about your correcting my abbrev. Was in a
crappy mood.