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Lance's offroad diversion and helping riders
Adam Bender wrote:
I finally saw the full clip of Lance's offroad scramble in last year's TdF a while ago. It looks like he cut out some of the course (a sharp turn); could there possibly be a penalty for not going through the whole course by doing something like this? He lost both time and position in the process. He and Beloki were trying to chase down Vinokourov who was well ahead when Beloki crashed. Vino got further ahead during the incident and a few guys that were behind him (including Ullrich) passed him before he could get back on the bike and start moving again. Many forms of racing, not just bicycles, will not penalize you further for going off course if you lose time and position by doing so. Moreover, he did it to avoid colliding with Beloki. It would be wrong to penalize him for that. |
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Lance's offroad diversion and helping riders
On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:08:27 +1000, byron27 wrote:
Adam Bender Wrote: I had heard he'd also been training with some cyclocross, which could have helped him, but overall I think it's just another small example of why LA is the greatest athlete of all time. What he did was pure reaction and anyone who spends a lot of time on a bike would do similar. I'm not sure how true that is (the "anyone who spends a lot of time..." part) because I've riden with a bunch of folks who have the years and a few who were racers and they can not handle off road on a road bike. Others who have spent time on mtn bikes (and off road) and ride road bikes have much better handling skills. They handle 'going off road' much better. This is especially true when an accident occurs and the ride would have gone down. -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry http://home.comcast.net/~ncherry/ (Text only) http://linuxha.sourceforge.net/ (SourceForge) http://hcs.sourceforge.net/ (HCS II) |
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Lance's offroad diversion and helping riders
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 23:37:56 -0700, Bill Davidson wrote:
Adam Bender wrote: I finally saw the full clip of Lance's offroad scramble in last year's TdF a while ago. It looks like he cut out some of the course (a sharp turn); could there possibly be a penalty for not going through the whole course by doing something like this? He lost both time and position in the process. He and Beloki were trying to chase down Vinokourov who was well ahead when Beloki crashed. Vino got further ahead during the incident and a few guys that were behind him (including Ullrich) passed him before he could get back on the bike and start moving again. Many forms of racing, not just bicycles, will not penalize you further for going off course if you lose time and position by doing so. Moreover, he did it to avoid colliding with Beloki. It would be wrong to penalize him for that. This raises a question I've wanted to ask for awhile: Beloki crashed when his rear tire separated from the wheel at 50ish miles per hour. Given how light and how good clinchers are these days, why do top riders still bother with the mess (and the risk) of tubulars? -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (Remove "allspammersmustdie" before responding.) I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs. |
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Lance's offroad diversion and helping riders
Chris BeHanna wrote:
This raises a question I've wanted to ask for awhile: Beloki crashed when his rear tire separated from the wheel at 50ish miles per hour. This has been discussed to death. The tire peeling off the rim was the result of the bike getting sideways on a slick patch of tar, and wasn't the cause of the accident in any way. Watch the tape and it's obvious - he lost the rear end of the bike, the rear tire peeled off the rim when it regained traction (albeit sideways), vaulting the rear end of the bike up and over the opposite direction. Ugly crash, but the problem was simply too much speed and too little traction (something Lance - who was right behind Beloki - confirms). Mark Hickey Habanero Cycles http://www.habcycles.com Home of the $695 ti frame |
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