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bike lane on the Bay Bridge?
hundreds of thousands take the Bary Bridge on weekdays to get from
Oakland to San Fran. It's 6 miles one way and it takes 1.5 hrs during rush hour. The toll is $4. WIth the gas it's easily $10 one way. A bit steep for a 6 mile trip. What would it take them to allocate a bike lane? No fancy construction is needed, just make each car lane (there 4 lanes AFAIR) a foot narrower and make a railguard to protect the cyclists. 6 miles is 30 min of relaxed riding. The bike lane can be narrow since it would be a one way lane. |
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bike lane on the Bay Bridge?
wrote in message oups.com... hundreds of thousands take the Bary Bridge on weekdays to get from Oakland to San Fran. It's 6 miles one way and it takes 1.5 hrs during rush hour. The toll is $4. WIth the gas it's easily $10 one way. A bit steep for a 6 mile trip. What would it take them to allocate a bike lane? No fancy construction is needed, just make each car lane (there 4 lanes AFAIR) a foot narrower and make a railguard to protect the cyclists. 6 miles is 30 min of relaxed riding. The bike lane can be narrow since it would be a one way lane. Absolutely no chance, for the reasons others have previously argued in this thread - J. |
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bike lane on the Bay Bridge?
On May 23, 8:12 pm, "
wrote: hundreds of thousands take the Bary Bridge on weekdays to get from Oakland to San Fran. It's 6 miles one way and it takes 1.5 hrs during rush hour. The toll is $4. WIth the gas it's easily $10 one way. A bit steep for a 6 mile trip. What would it take them to allocate a bike lane? It would take someone like Alex Zuckermann. http://www.sfbike.org/?baybridge BTW, you're off on the distance by 40%. It's 8.4 miles from the toll plaza to Rincon Hill. |
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bike lane on the Bay Bridge?
I fill up every 5 days, a full tank is $50. I have a Subaru. It does
take 1.5 hrs from Berkeley to downtown. Approaching Emervylille at 8 am the sign says 56 min to downtown. $10 per round trip plus tolls = $14 round trip. I messed up round trip versus one way in my OP. And the math is not the point. Give or take a factor of 2, it's still too much. A bike line to Treasure island and back is useless. Who needs to go to Treasure Island? It's not even a real island. |
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bike lane on the Bay Bridge?
On May 23, 8:52 pm, Diablo Scott wrote:
As cool as a Bay Bridge bike lane would be, I'd much rather see the money spent somewhere else. The bike lane that's being hung off the south side of the east span doubles as a maintenance lane -- this is the real reason why it was economically feasible. The bike part is just to make it sound good. |
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bike lane on the Bay Bridge?
On May 24, 11:18 am, "
wrote: A bike line to Treasure island and back is useless. Who needs to go to Treasure Island? Bicycle pirates? |
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bike lane on the Bay Bridge?
BTW I've heard much more utopical ideas on this group, like, people
giving up driving their cars, or constructing bicycle highways. A bike lane on te bay bridge, in contrast, only would take 6 (or 8.4 miles) of railguards and a new paint job for the bridge. Also, it would make more of a difference than the Golden Gate bike lane that is only used by sausalito commuters and tourists. How many people live is Sausalito? Like, 100 times less than in Oakland? And sausaltans still have long ways to go to get to downtown. While the bay bridge lands you directly in downtown. I would even agree pay a buck or two in tolls to get across by bike. |
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bike lane on the Bay Bridge?
On 24 May 2007 11:18:15 -0700, "
wrote: I fill up every 5 days, a full tank is $50. I have a Subaru. It does take 1.5 hrs from Berkeley to downtown. Approaching Emervylille at 8 am the sign says 56 min to downtown. $10 per round trip plus tolls = $14 round trip. I messed up round trip versus one way in my OP. Have they extended the Bay Bridge all the way into Berkeley now? Sounds like you're adding about 200% to the bridge distance... Why not argue for BART access for bikes? I'd think that'd get a lot more commuters interested in cycling. Pat Email address works as is. |
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bike lane on the Bay Bridge?
hundreds of thousands take the Bary Bridge on weekdays to get from
Oakland to San Fran. It's 6 miles one way and it takes 1.5 hrs during rush hour. The toll is $4. WIth the gas it's easily $10 one way. A bit steep for a 6 mile trip. What would it take them to allocate a bike lane? No fancy construction is needed, just make each car lane (there 4 lanes AFAIR) a foot narrower and make a railguard to protect the cyclists. 6 miles is 30 min of relaxed riding. The bike lane can be narrow since it would be a one way lane. #1: The lanes on the bay bridge are none too wide for cars as it is. Removing just a foot from each might make it more dangerous than it already is. #2: 6 miles or riding in close proximity to huge numbers of cars going 50mph and belching out all manner of fumes is not my idea of "relaxed riding." #3: I can think of a whole lot of other, better ways to spend the sort of money such a project might entail. Most likely, for a fraction of the cost, you could provide free and expanded use of BART for cyclists between SF and Oakland, and intermodal commuting is a very good thing. You get the bicycle to be seen as an integral part of the solution, something that can be added to what you might already be doing for increased versatility. #4: In general, the best time for adding bike facilities to roadways is when they're initially designed, or rebuilt. Much cheaper and more functional when they're not an afterthought. That's what the "complete streets" initiative is all about. Consider the needs of all users, including pedestrians, cyclists, motorcyclists, cars etc. Done right, everyone benefits from improved traffic flow and reduced congestion. --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles www.ChainReactionBicycles.com |
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