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On 2020-02-06 17:23, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 2:17:14 PM UTC-8, Joerg wrote: On 2020-02-06 13:58, Tom Kunich wrote: On Wednesday, February 5, 2020 at 12:53:39 PM UTC-8, Joerg wrote: On 2020-02-03 14:19, Tom Kunich wrote: [...] There are only two bridges left without protected bike lanes now. The San Mateo Bridge and the Carquinez Straits bridge. I've never seen a cyclist on the Carquinez Bridge. That sounds like a suicide mission to me, like this section on I-5: https://www.flickr.com/photos/bike/2...ream/lightbox/ Have you tried cycling the Carquinez Bridge? [...] -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ It is a protected bike path on the bridge with concrete barriers to separate them from the cars. Sort of like on the Oakland span of the bay bridge. https://www.bicycling.com/culture/a3...e-controversy/ It's weird. I crossed that new span more than a dozen times over the years and never noticed any pedestrians or cyclists. The barrier isn't too high for that, just like on the bike path to Davis along I-80. That one is very long so usually you see a rider or two when driving towards the Bay Area. https://goo.gl/maps/PFFSh6Jv1NfxUtxQ7 The problem with those paths is often the connecting infrastructure. West Sacramento is not very bike-friendly but we have to cross it to get to Davis. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ I don't remember any bike paths to Davis only sideroads. It's a long and boring path directly next to I-80. Starts at 8:50min: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QoGIowtyNE There's be no other year-round path or road because that whole area below is a flood basin and underwater during snow-melt season. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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On Friday, February 7, 2020 at 10:22:19 AM UTC-8, Joerg wrote:
On 2020-02-06 17:23, Tom Kunich wrote: On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 2:17:14 PM UTC-8, Joerg wrote: On 2020-02-06 13:58, Tom Kunich wrote: On Wednesday, February 5, 2020 at 12:53:39 PM UTC-8, Joerg wrote: On 2020-02-03 14:19, Tom Kunich wrote: [...] There are only two bridges left without protected bike lanes now. The San Mateo Bridge and the Carquinez Straits bridge. I've never seen a cyclist on the Carquinez Bridge. That sounds like a suicide mission to me, like this section on I-5: https://www.flickr.com/photos/bike/2...ream/lightbox/ Have you tried cycling the Carquinez Bridge? [...] -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ It is a protected bike path on the bridge with concrete barriers to separate them from the cars. Sort of like on the Oakland span of the bay bridge. https://www.bicycling.com/culture/a3...e-controversy/ It's weird. I crossed that new span more than a dozen times over the years and never noticed any pedestrians or cyclists. The barrier isn't too high for that, just like on the bike path to Davis along I-80. That one is very long so usually you see a rider or two when driving towards the Bay Area. https://goo.gl/maps/PFFSh6Jv1NfxUtxQ7 The problem with those paths is often the connecting infrastructure. West Sacramento is not very bike-friendly but we have to cross it to get to Davis. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ I don't remember any bike paths to Davis only sideroads. It's a long and boring path directly next to I-80. Starts at 8:50min: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QoGIowtyNE There's be no other year-round path or road because that whole area below is a flood basin and underwater during snow-melt season. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ There is a road that goes right next to the Davis campus that is hardly used and goes directly into West Sacramento and there is a bridge to cross there into Sacramento proper. Can't imagine why you'd need a path. |
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On 2020-02-07 13:44, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, February 7, 2020 at 10:22:19 AM UTC-8, Joerg wrote: On 2020-02-06 17:23, Tom Kunich wrote: On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 2:17:14 PM UTC-8, Joerg wrote: On 2020-02-06 13:58, Tom Kunich wrote: On Wednesday, February 5, 2020 at 12:53:39 PM UTC-8, Joerg wrote: On 2020-02-03 14:19, Tom Kunich wrote: [...] There are only two bridges left without protected bike lanes now. The San Mateo Bridge and the Carquinez Straits bridge. I've never seen a cyclist on the Carquinez Bridge. That sounds like a suicide mission to me, like this section on I-5: https://www.flickr.com/photos/bike/2...ream/lightbox/ Have you tried cycling the Carquinez Bridge? [...] -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ It is a protected bike path on the bridge with concrete barriers to separate them from the cars. Sort of like on the Oakland span of the bay bridge. https://www.bicycling.com/culture/a3...e-controversy/ It's weird. I crossed that new span more than a dozen times over the years and never noticed any pedestrians or cyclists. The barrier isn't too high for that, just like on the bike path to Davis along I-80. That one is very long so usually you see a rider or two when driving towards the Bay Area. https://goo.gl/maps/PFFSh6Jv1NfxUtxQ7 The problem with those paths is often the connecting infrastructure. West Sacramento is not very bike-friendly but we have to cross it to get to Davis. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ I don't remember any bike paths to Davis only sideroads. It's a long and boring path directly next to I-80. Starts at 8:50min: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QoGIowtyNE There's be no other year-round path or road because that whole area below is a flood basin and underwater during snow-melt season. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ There is a road that goes right next to the Davis campus that is hardly used and goes directly into West Sacramento and there is a bridge to cross there into Sacramento proper. Can't imagine why you'd need a path. Where? Can you point it out on the linked map? https://goo.gl/maps/MQUCiwssq1di7FXc8 The whole center section all the way from north to south is the Yolo bypass which floods. I wonder how you'd get through that in spring on a road bike: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yolo_B...306199144).jpg The bike path parallel to I-80 starts where that big sign is in the picture. It would require an amphibious bicycle. https://gajitz.com/wp-content/upload...bious-bike.jpg Of course, Iohan would have absolutely no qualms about that, transfer to water starts at 4:10min: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ0KNj5WUvk -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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On Friday, February 7, 2020 at 2:15:18 PM UTC-8, Joerg wrote:
On 2020-02-07 13:44, Tom Kunich wrote: On Friday, February 7, 2020 at 10:22:19 AM UTC-8, Joerg wrote: On 2020-02-06 17:23, Tom Kunich wrote: On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 2:17:14 PM UTC-8, Joerg wrote: On 2020-02-06 13:58, Tom Kunich wrote: On Wednesday, February 5, 2020 at 12:53:39 PM UTC-8, Joerg wrote: On 2020-02-03 14:19, Tom Kunich wrote: [...] There are only two bridges left without protected bike lanes now. The San Mateo Bridge and the Carquinez Straits bridge. I've never seen a cyclist on the Carquinez Bridge. That sounds like a suicide mission to me, like this section on I-5: https://www.flickr.com/photos/bike/2...ream/lightbox/ Have you tried cycling the Carquinez Bridge? [...] -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ It is a protected bike path on the bridge with concrete barriers to separate them from the cars. Sort of like on the Oakland span of the bay bridge. https://www.bicycling.com/culture/a3...e-controversy/ It's weird. I crossed that new span more than a dozen times over the years and never noticed any pedestrians or cyclists. The barrier isn't too high for that, just like on the bike path to Davis along I-80. That one is very long so usually you see a rider or two when driving towards the Bay Area. https://goo.gl/maps/PFFSh6Jv1NfxUtxQ7 The problem with those paths is often the connecting infrastructure. West Sacramento is not very bike-friendly but we have to cross it to get to Davis. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ I don't remember any bike paths to Davis only sideroads. It's a long and boring path directly next to I-80. Starts at 8:50min: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QoGIowtyNE There's be no other year-round path or road because that whole area below is a flood basin and underwater during snow-melt season. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ There is a road that goes right next to the Davis campus that is hardly used and goes directly into West Sacramento and there is a bridge to cross there into Sacramento proper. Can't imagine why you'd need a path. Where? Can you point it out on the linked map? https://goo.gl/maps/MQUCiwssq1di7FXc8 The whole center section all the way from north to south is the Yolo bypass which floods. I wonder how you'd get through that in spring on a road bike: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yolo_B...306199144).jpg The bike path parallel to I-80 starts where that big sign is in the picture. It would require an amphibious bicycle. https://gajitz.com/wp-content/upload...bious-bike.jpg Of course, Iohan would have absolutely no qualms about that, transfer to water starts at 4:10min: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ0KNj5WUvk -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ Well, it is the first street bridge then Sacramento Ave. On the maps it looks awfully tortuous but I drove it just a couple of springs ago when I went up there to pick up some bicycle parts and wanted to see the route. My memory is pretty screwed up but I'm sure that I used to lead a ride that went from San Leandro out across the country roads to Rio Vista and then we had to cross quite a ways over and would take and east=west route and come into Davis from the north. And then we would ride into Sacramento for a hotel for the night and return the next day. Perhaps there was a lot of lefts and rights to West Sacramento but I don't remember that. Though it seems to me that driving it a couple of years ago it was reasonably direct. I wonder if we rode up to Woodland and then east? |
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On 2020-02-08 15:59, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, February 7, 2020 at 2:15:18 PM UTC-8, Joerg wrote: On 2020-02-07 13:44, Tom Kunich wrote: On Friday, February 7, 2020 at 10:22:19 AM UTC-8, Joerg wrote: On 2020-02-06 17:23, Tom Kunich wrote: On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 2:17:14 PM UTC-8, Joerg wrote: On 2020-02-06 13:58, Tom Kunich wrote: On Wednesday, February 5, 2020 at 12:53:39 PM UTC-8, Joerg wrote: On 2020-02-03 14:19, Tom Kunich wrote: [...] There are only two bridges left without protected bike lanes now. The San Mateo Bridge and the Carquinez Straits bridge. I've never seen a cyclist on the Carquinez Bridge. That sounds like a suicide mission to me, like this section on I-5: https://www.flickr.com/photos/bike/2...ream/lightbox/ Have you tried cycling the Carquinez Bridge? [...] -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ It is a protected bike path on the bridge with concrete barriers to separate them from the cars. Sort of like on the Oakland span of the bay bridge. https://www.bicycling.com/culture/a3...e-controversy/ It's weird. I crossed that new span more than a dozen times over the years and never noticed any pedestrians or cyclists. The barrier isn't too high for that, just like on the bike path to Davis along I-80. That one is very long so usually you see a rider or two when driving towards the Bay Area. https://goo.gl/maps/PFFSh6Jv1NfxUtxQ7 The problem with those paths is often the connecting infrastructure. West Sacramento is not very bike-friendly but we have to cross it to get to Davis. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ I don't remember any bike paths to Davis only sideroads. It's a long and boring path directly next to I-80. Starts at 8:50min: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QoGIowtyNE There's be no other year-round path or road because that whole area below is a flood basin and underwater during snow-melt season. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ There is a road that goes right next to the Davis campus that is hardly used and goes directly into West Sacramento and there is a bridge to cross there into Sacramento proper. Can't imagine why you'd need a path. Where? Can you point it out on the linked map? https://goo.gl/maps/MQUCiwssq1di7FXc8 The whole center section all the way from north to south is the Yolo bypass which floods. I wonder how you'd get through that in spring on a road bike: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yolo_B...306199144).jpg The bike path parallel to I-80 starts where that big sign is in the picture. It would require an amphibious bicycle. https://gajitz.com/wp-content/upload...bious-bike.jpg Of course, Iohan would have absolutely no qualms about that, transfer to water starts at 4:10min: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ0KNj5WUvk -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ Well, it is the first street bridge then Sacramento Ave. On the maps it looks awfully tortuous but I drove it just a couple of springs ago when I went up there to pick up some bicycle parts and wanted to see the route. You can't get to Davis that way. Sacramento Avenue ends just west of the Sacramento River, near the CHP Academy. It actually becomes Reed Avenue for a couple of blocks, then ends. West of there is the Yolo Bypass which is often completely flooded. It also doesn't have roads that are palatable on a road bike. My memory is pretty screwed up but I'm sure that I used to lead a ride that went from San Leandro out across the country roads to Rio Vista and then we had to cross quite a ways over and would take and east=west route and come into Davis from the north. And then we would ride into Sacramento for a hotel for the night and return the next day. Perhaps there was a lot of lefts and rights to West Sacramento but I don't remember that. Though it seems to me that driving it a couple of years ago it was reasonably direct. I wonder if we rode up to Woodland and then east? Possibly. Then you might remember the train tracks parallel to E.Main Street in Woodland which is just about the only way by bicycle because you aren't allowed to ride on I-5 in that area. Afterwards you can follow Old River Road to the I-Street Bridge but that sure is a looong detour. Quite scenic though. We always take the Tower Bridge when riding to West Sacramento. Drake's Barn is a really nice place with lots of outdoor seating. If you come from the west you can take either bridge and they both lead you right into old town. There is a bike path on the eastern side of the Sacramento River. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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On Sunday, February 9, 2020 at 1:46:31 PM UTC-8, Joerg wrote:
On 2020-02-08 15:59, Tom Kunich wrote: On Friday, February 7, 2020 at 2:15:18 PM UTC-8, Joerg wrote: On 2020-02-07 13:44, Tom Kunich wrote: On Friday, February 7, 2020 at 10:22:19 AM UTC-8, Joerg wrote: On 2020-02-06 17:23, Tom Kunich wrote: On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 2:17:14 PM UTC-8, Joerg wrote: On 2020-02-06 13:58, Tom Kunich wrote: On Wednesday, February 5, 2020 at 12:53:39 PM UTC-8, Joerg wrote: On 2020-02-03 14:19, Tom Kunich wrote: [...] There are only two bridges left without protected bike lanes now. The San Mateo Bridge and the Carquinez Straits bridge. I've never seen a cyclist on the Carquinez Bridge. That sounds like a suicide mission to me, like this section on I-5: https://www.flickr.com/photos/bike/2...ream/lightbox/ Have you tried cycling the Carquinez Bridge? [...] -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ It is a protected bike path on the bridge with concrete barriers to separate them from the cars. Sort of like on the Oakland span of the bay bridge. https://www.bicycling.com/culture/a3...e-controversy/ It's weird. I crossed that new span more than a dozen times over the years and never noticed any pedestrians or cyclists. The barrier isn't too high for that, just like on the bike path to Davis along I-80. That one is very long so usually you see a rider or two when driving towards the Bay Area. https://goo.gl/maps/PFFSh6Jv1NfxUtxQ7 The problem with those paths is often the connecting infrastructure. West Sacramento is not very bike-friendly but we have to cross it to get to Davis. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ I don't remember any bike paths to Davis only sideroads. It's a long and boring path directly next to I-80. Starts at 8:50min: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QoGIowtyNE There's be no other year-round path or road because that whole area below is a flood basin and underwater during snow-melt season. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ There is a road that goes right next to the Davis campus that is hardly used and goes directly into West Sacramento and there is a bridge to cross there into Sacramento proper. Can't imagine why you'd need a path. Where? Can you point it out on the linked map? https://goo.gl/maps/MQUCiwssq1di7FXc8 The whole center section all the way from north to south is the Yolo bypass which floods. I wonder how you'd get through that in spring on a road bike: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yolo_B...306199144).jpg The bike path parallel to I-80 starts where that big sign is in the picture. It would require an amphibious bicycle. https://gajitz.com/wp-content/upload...bious-bike.jpg Of course, Iohan would have absolutely no qualms about that, transfer to water starts at 4:10min: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ0KNj5WUvk -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ Well, it is the first street bridge then Sacramento Ave. On the maps it looks awfully tortuous but I drove it just a couple of springs ago when I went up there to pick up some bicycle parts and wanted to see the route. You can't get to Davis that way. Sacramento Avenue ends just west of the Sacramento River, near the CHP Academy. It actually becomes Reed Avenue for a couple of blocks, then ends. West of there is the Yolo Bypass which is often completely flooded. It also doesn't have roads that are palatable on a road bike. My memory is pretty screwed up but I'm sure that I used to lead a ride that went from San Leandro out across the country roads to Rio Vista and then we had to cross quite a ways over and would take and east=west route and come into Davis from the north. And then we would ride into Sacramento for a hotel for the night and return the next day. Perhaps there was a lot of lefts and rights to West Sacramento but I don't remember that. Though it seems to me that driving it a couple of years ago it was reasonably direct. I wonder if we rode up to Woodland and then east? Possibly. Then you might remember the train tracks parallel to E.Main Street in Woodland which is just about the only way by bicycle because you aren't allowed to ride on I-5 in that area. Afterwards you can follow Old River Road to the I-Street Bridge but that sure is a looong detour. Quite scenic though. We always take the Tower Bridge when riding to West Sacramento. Drake's Barn is a really nice place with lots of outdoor seating. If you come from the west you can take either bridge and they both lead you right into old town. There is a bike path on the eastern side of the Sacramento River. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ Yes, I looked at a map and it had to be the Tower Bridge I took. And I must have driven to Woodland and then down south into Davis. You say that there's a bike path that is more direct? I assume that it goes right along the freeway with all of its accompanying noise? |
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On 2020-02-10 09:58, Tom Kunich wrote:
[Bike connection Sacramento - Davis] Yes, I looked at a map and it had to be the Tower Bridge I took. And I must have driven to Woodland and then down south into Davis. You say that there's a bike path that is more direct? I assume that it goes right along the freeway with all of its accompanying noise? Yes, directly next to I-80, boring and noisy. https://www.davisenterprise.com/file...W-765x1024.jpg To get to this bike path from Sacramento you still have to cycle through West Sacramento (west of the river) and that's not always pleasant when there is heavy traffic. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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On Monday, February 10, 2020 at 10:42:26 AM UTC-8, Joerg wrote:
On 2020-02-10 09:58, Tom Kunich wrote: [Bike connection Sacramento - Davis] Yes, I looked at a map and it had to be the Tower Bridge I took. And I must have driven to Woodland and then down south into Davis. You say that there's a bike path that is more direct? I assume that it goes right along the freeway with all of its accompanying noise? Yes, directly next to I-80, boring and noisy. https://www.davisenterprise.com/file...W-765x1024.jpg To get to this bike path from Sacramento you still have to cycle through West Sacramento (west of the river) and that's not always pleasant when there is heavy traffic. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ Well, the Woodside route you are on a levy road and there's not a lot of traffic and it is mostly farmers so they are as polite as a famer can be. Crossing the Tower Bridge I really can't remember much of - whether there was a pedestrian path or whether we would ride on the road surface. The bridges to Alameda here are steel grating and most cyclists won't ride on them. But once you get use to that it isn't bad traction. |
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On 2020-02-10 13:43, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Monday, February 10, 2020 at 10:42:26 AM UTC-8, Joerg wrote: On 2020-02-10 09:58, Tom Kunich wrote: [Bike connection Sacramento - Davis] Yes, I looked at a map and it had to be the Tower Bridge I took. And I must have driven to Woodland and then down south into Davis. You say that there's a bike path that is more direct? I assume that it goes right along the freeway with all of its accompanying noise? Yes, directly next to I-80, boring and noisy. https://www.davisenterprise.com/file...W-765x1024.jpg To get to this bike path from Sacramento you still have to cycle through West Sacramento (west of the river) and that's not always pleasant when there is heavy traffic. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ Well, the Woodside route you are on a levy road and there's not a lot of traffic and it is mostly farmers so they are as polite as a famer can be. Those are easy and pleasant to ride. ... Crossing the Tower Bridge I really can't remember much of - whether there was a pedestrian path or whether we would ride on the road surface. It has a small shoulder. Road bike riders use that and others use the side walk: https://goo.gl/maps/6v2f5hh1ooZCpLzL8 ... The bridges to Alameda here are steel grating and most cyclists won't ride on them. But once you get use to that it isn't bad traction. As long as there is no tire blow-out. I just lost another tire, a chunk of the running surface from a Gatorskin went AWOL. Luckily since I run thick thorn-resistant tubes plus tire liners on all bikes this one didn't cause a blow-out or crash. So I stocked up on Vittoria Zaffiro where I (so far) never had that happen. Got three more in the basement now. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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On Monday, February 10, 2020 at 1:53:47 PM UTC-8, Joerg wrote:
On 2020-02-10 13:43, Tom Kunich wrote: On Monday, February 10, 2020 at 10:42:26 AM UTC-8, Joerg wrote: On 2020-02-10 09:58, Tom Kunich wrote: [Bike connection Sacramento - Davis] Yes, I looked at a map and it had to be the Tower Bridge I took. And I must have driven to Woodland and then down south into Davis. You say that there's a bike path that is more direct? I assume that it goes right along the freeway with all of its accompanying noise? Yes, directly next to I-80, boring and noisy. https://www.davisenterprise.com/file...W-765x1024.jpg To get to this bike path from Sacramento you still have to cycle through West Sacramento (west of the river) and that's not always pleasant when there is heavy traffic. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ Well, the Woodside route you are on a levy road and there's not a lot of traffic and it is mostly farmers so they are as polite as a famer can be. Those are easy and pleasant to ride. ... Crossing the Tower Bridge I really can't remember much of - whether there was a pedestrian path or whether we would ride on the road surface. It has a small shoulder. Road bike riders use that and others use the side walk: https://goo.gl/maps/6v2f5hh1ooZCpLzL8 ... The bridges to Alameda here are steel grating and most cyclists won't ride on them. But once you get use to that it isn't bad traction. As long as there is no tire blow-out. I just lost another tire, a chunk of the running surface from a Gatorskin went AWOL. Luckily since I run thick thorn-resistant tubes plus tire liners on all bikes this one didn't cause a blow-out or crash. So I stocked up on Vittoria Zaffiro where I (so far) never had that happen. Got three more in the basement now. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ I have been riding Continental GP5000TLR tubeless tires. But they are not nice tires. They puncture a lot easier than they should and if the hole is large enough not to seal with the sealant, they develop a hop after you've "fixed" it with what they can "bacon". The traction is good to the point that the tire wanders around on the road surface from changes in tilt and such.. I have also used the Vittoria Corsa G+ tires and they work VERY well. They do not wear rapidly as I've seen published elsewhere and they have very good directional stability and don't make you nervous like the Continental. I just put a pair of Gatorskins on my Redline Di2 build only because I wanted to get rid of the new set that has been on the shelf for two years. |
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