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Old April 18th 08, 03:20 PM posted to rec.sport.unicycling
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My steel coker rim (actually a QuAx one I think) is narrower at the
joint than the rest of the way round. It's not bent, it's just very
poorly made (looks like it shrunk when it was welded together into a
hoop). It doesn't affect the tyre fitting but is enough to make the
brake extremely juddery.

Up to now I've just put up with it - I only used the brake on one steep
hill on the way to work anyway and with 150mm cranks I could control
the lurch once every wheel revolution.

But recently I've been doing more road riding, practising for the
Unicon marathon (otherwise I ride mostly on xc trails), and wanting to
experiment with shorter cranks. It would be nice to be able to use the
brake occasionally (especially when my legs are starting to get tired),
but at speed it's just too dangerous with the wonky rim.

It's not bent so I can't just tweak it out like I would with a pranged
steel bike rim (the whole section of the rim is smaller at the joint).
I thought about hammering it out from the inside against a flat
surface, but I think it'll be pretty hard to do that without ruining
the tyre seating and risking the tyre falling off. Then I thought
about filling the "dent" with some sort of metal filler and filing it
smooth, a bit like lead loading in car bodywork but with a harder
filler. There are various metallic fillers on the market, but I'm
wondering if any will stick well enough, even if I file away some of
the plating first.

Anybody ever tried anything like that or heard of anybody doing it? Or
any other suggestions for straightening up the brake surface? I know I
could buy a new rim but I'm trying to avoid throwing money at it if I
can help it.

Rob


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Old April 18th 08, 03:43 PM posted to rec.sport.unicycling
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With the brand new 'Pimpy white (or boring black if you want) rim'
(http://tinyurl.com/5q2tv3), at £60, it might be worth just upgrading
the rim anyway as the cost is less insane now.

Otherwise, is it that the two parts don't match up, so there's a jump,
or is it that it goes smoothly in and smoothly out, but that still
screws up the braking? I know some people have had grinders at their
rims to smooth jumpy bits off at the rim join, although obviously
depends on how much of a jump it is.

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Old April 18th 08, 05:11 PM posted to rec.sport.unicycling
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Honestly with that rim, it's not worth the trouble.

However, you have the least of the evils. A projecting rim joint is
much worse than a narrowing one.

Try readjusting your brake pads. Also, you can trim away some of the
pads so that there is less surface area.

Cleaning your rim and pads may help too.


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Old April 19th 08, 12:08 PM posted to rec.sport.unicycling
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Thanks for the replies. I don't think I described it clearly enough -
it's not just a rough joint that can be ground down, like on the
airfoil rims, and it's not that the pads grip too much at one point
like on a dirty rim. The whole rim is actually narrower at the joint,
like an hour-glass shape over about two inches. I know it's a cheap
rim and I could buy a better one, but that's not the point - it's
proved to be strong enough for my riding and I don't have money to burn
if it's not necessary. It's not that I can't afford a new rim if I had
to, but then it would be silly to keep the heavy 12-gauge spokes and
the hub has been drilled for 12-gauge, so I'd probably end up buying a
new wheel... and I'm not going to get much for my existing wheel am I?

I'll try to sort it out some how - nothing to lose really. If it
doesn't work I'll have to buy a new rim.

Rob


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Old April 19th 08, 12:36 PM posted to rec.sport.unicycling
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My first thought would be to braze over it. Trying to fill up the area
with brazing rod might not look the neatest of jobs, but I'd expect
it'll bond well enough with the wheel (as long as you strip the chrome
off), and if it's filed smooth, should be grippy enough with the
brakes.

My second thought, however, was that if it's a very deep area to fill
then you might end up with enough metal in there that it'll unbalance
the wheel enough to notice. So you may have to put some counterweights
at other parts. But then you'll end up with a VERY heavy wheel.

STM


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Old April 20th 08, 10:12 AM posted to rec.sport.unicycling
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That's not a bad idea - I thought about doing it with weld but thought
there was too much chance of distorting the rim even more. Brazing
might be a good compromise between weld and filler. I don't think the
weight will be a problem - the whole wheel weighs such an enormous
amount anyway and it's not exactly running at high rpm.

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