They are whingeing about petrol prices again!

On 17/11/2011 04:05, Simon Mason wrote:
On Nov 16, 11:46 pm, Squashme wrote:
On Nov 16, 6:53 pm, "Mrcheerful" wrote:

Doug wrote:
Fortunately this hardly affects cyclists at all.

so why are you mentioning it here?

"just about everybody on this group have said they own a car."

I am not moaning about high petrol prices as
a) I work for an oil company.
b) I get a staff discount c) I hardly ever drive anyway.

Win win win.

Please examine feet for bullet wounds. Two posts later the ****wit writes;

"My fuel bills are going through the roof due to me driving Mrs M out
to all of these hills.
I've just put another 70 quids worth in".

Beyond parody....

--
Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a
legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton - Lancaster
University

On 20/11/2011 10:37, Simon Mason wrote:
On Nov 20, 8:50 am, "Doug" wrote:
On 18-Nov-2011, Simon wrote:





On 18/11/2011 14:48, Simon Mason wrote:
On Nov 17, 7:33 am, Simon
wrote:
On 17/11/2011 04:05, Simon Mason wrote:

On Nov 16, 11:46 pm, wrote:
On Nov 16, 6:53 pm, wrote:

Doug wrote:
Fortunately this hardly affects cyclists at all.

so why are you mentioning it here?

"just about everybody on this group have said they own a car."

I am not moaning about high petrol prices as
a) I work for an oil company.
b) I get a staff discount c) I hardly ever drive anyway.

Win win win.

Higher prices, less traffic!

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My fuel bills are going through the roof due to me driving Mrs M out
to all of these hills.
I've just put another 70 quids worth in. :-(

It does not go far, I spend approx £80 a month on diesel. Still I’d
rather pay £160 per month and see less traffic on the roads.

Of course that is the undoubted benefit of higher fuel prices so the higher
the better. Lets get all those frivolous drivers off our roads so that
serious road users can benefit. I bet the resulting lack of congestion would
save on fuel costs in the end.

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Agreed.
Fuel is far too cheap - if people can afford to sit in traffic for an
hour like I was the other night doing 8-9 mpg, then the fuel taxes
need to be raised in order to force people to consider more sensible
alternatives. I certainly won't be driving to work today, that's for
sure.

Neither will I.

Never on a Sunday.

On Nov 17, 8:58 am, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
wrote:
On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:09:19 -0800 (PST), Bret Cahill

wrote:
Fortunately this hardly affects cyclists at all.

When will these car addicts ever learn that motoring is costly and it
goes with the territory. If they don't like it then they should not
have
chosen a lifestyle based on car dependency in the first place,
instead
of perpetually whining about their habit.

There are actually some people who cannot ride a bike, due to problems
with balance, orthopaedic problems etc. They should not be
stigmatised.

They cost more but it's hard to fall off a recumbent.

A recumbent trike, anyway.


Come to think of it, I don't think I have ever heard of *anyone* crashing or
falling off a recumbent.

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Simon Mason

On 18/11/2011 15:51, Simon Mason wrote:
On Nov 18, 3:33 pm, Simon
wrote:
On 18/11/2011 14:48, Simon Mason wrote:





On Nov 17, 7:33 am, Simon
wrote:
On 17/11/2011 04:05, Simon Mason wrote:

On Nov 16, 11:46 pm, wrote:
On Nov 16, 6:53 pm, wrote:

Doug wrote:
Fortunately this hardly affects cyclists at all.

so why are you mentioning it here?

"just about everybody on this group have said they own a car."

I am not moaning about high petrol prices as
a) I work for an oil company.
b) I get a staff discount c) I hardly ever drive anyway.

Win win win.

Higher prices, less traffic!

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My fuel bills are going through the roof due to me driving Mrs M out
to all of these hills.
I've just put another 70 quids worth in. :-(

It does not go far, I spend approx £80 a month on diesel. Still I’d
rather pay £160 per month and see less traffic on the roads.

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I am having to cough up 300 quid a month now.
Hopefully, after she has lost the weight, I won't have to drive out to
the hills so often,

Your fuel consumption will improve when she loses weight anyway.

She will **** off & find a normal bloke.


--
Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a
legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton - Lancaster
University

On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 11:02:00 -0000, "Simon Mason"
wrote:

On Nov 17, 8:58 am, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
wrote:
On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:09:19 -0800 (PST), Bret Cahill

wrote:
Fortunately this hardly affects cyclists at all.

When will these car addicts ever learn that motoring is costly and it
goes with the territory. If they don't like it then they should not
have
chosen a lifestyle based on car dependency in the first place,
instead
of perpetually whining about their habit.

There are actually some people who cannot ride a bike, due to problems
with balance, orthopaedic problems etc. They should not be
stigmatised.

They cost more but it's hard to fall off a recumbent.

A recumbent trike, anyway.


Come to think of it, I don't think I have ever heard of *anyone* crashing or
falling off a recumbent.

I have. Some serious - a fatality in Scotland a couple of years back -
some comic: Mike Burrows landing on the track arse first and wrecking
his skin suit, leading the a spike in the world consumption of mind
bleach.

Guy
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On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 02:30:56 -0800 (PST), Simon Mason
wrote:

On Nov 20, 9:48*am, Tony Dragon wrote:


Of course that is the undoubted benefit of higher fuel prices so the higher
the better. Lets get all those frivolous drivers off our roads so that
serious road users can benefit. I bet the resulting lack of congestion would
save on fuel costs in the end.

Doug.

Yes, the higher the better, we all know that only motorists use fuel.

Those lorries, buses, trains, ambulances, hospitals, etc do not use fuel
at all, they are powered by Pixie Dust that falls out of the skies in
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In years to come when all of the oil has run out, those vehicles will
be powered by biofuels made from palm oil, maize, wheat, sugar cane
and all sorts of other renewable resources. We are in a transitional
period when we are having to learn to be weaned off fossil fuels and
into cleaner forms of energy which will benefit us all.

I sort of wonder if there is potential to grow these oil crops in
third world countries. It's about time they got a look in.

Guy
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The usenet price promise: all opinions are guaranteed
to be worth at least what you paid for them.

On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 02:30:56 -0800 (PST), Simon Mason
wrote:

On Nov 20, 9:48*am, Tony Dragon wrote:


Of course that is the undoubted benefit of higher fuel prices so the higher
the better. Lets get all those frivolous drivers off our roads so that
serious road users can benefit. I bet the resulting lack of congestion would
save on fuel costs in the end.

Doug.

Yes, the higher the better, we all know that only motorists use fuel.

Those lorries, buses, trains, ambulances, hospitals, etc do not use fuel
at all, they are powered by Pixie Dust that falls out of the skies in
cloud cockoo land.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

In years to come when all of the oil has run out, those vehicles will
be powered by biofuels made from palm oil, maize, wheat, sugar cane
and all sorts of other renewable resources. We are in a transitional
period when we are having to learn to be weaned off fossil fuels and
into cleaner forms of energy which will benefit us all.


I wonder, would it be right to say that this exactly the area where you are
pushing back the frontiers of science and knowledge on a daily basis?

On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 11:02:00 -0000, "Simon Mason"
wrote:

On Nov 17, 8:58 am, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
wrote:
On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:09:19 -0800 (PST), Bret Cahill

wrote:
Fortunately this hardly affects cyclists at all.

When will these car addicts ever learn that motoring is costly and it
goes with the territory. If they don't like it then they should not
have
chosen a lifestyle based on car dependency in the first place,
instead
of perpetually whining about their habit.

There are actually some people who cannot ride a bike, due to problems
with balance, orthopaedic problems etc. They should not be
stigmatised.

They cost more but it's hard to fall off a recumbent.

A recumbent trike, anyway.


Come to think of it, I don't think I have ever heard of *anyone* crashing or
falling off a recumbent.


If you bought a recumbent with a rear seat, you could transport Mrs Mason to
the daily walk at no cost.

win-win as we say.

I am surprised you have not been sharing with us how the pounds are falling off
her on a daily basis. I assume that they are.


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"You get a real feeling of elation just for the simple act of cycling past the local hospital
where there are people of my age who have abused their bodies and suffered all sorts of ailments"

Simon Mason

On 20/11/2011 08:50, Doug wrote:
On 18-Nov-2011, Simon wrote:

On 18/11/2011 14:48, Simon Mason wrote:
On Nov 17, 7:33 am, Simon
wrote:
On 17/11/2011 04:05, Simon Mason wrote:



On Nov 16, 11:46 pm, wrote:
On Nov 16, 6:53 pm, wrote:

Doug wrote:
Fortunately this hardly affects cyclists at all.

so why are you mentioning it here?

"just about everybody on this group have said they own a car."

I am not moaning about high petrol prices as
a) I work for an oil company.
b) I get a staff discount c) I hardly ever drive anyway.

Win win win.

Higher prices, less traffic!

--
Simon
For personal replies, please use my reply-to address.- Hide quoted text
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My fuel bills are going through the roof due to me driving Mrs M out
to all of these hills.
I've just put another 70 quids worth in. :-(


It does not go far, I spend approx £80 a month on diesel. Still I’d
rather pay £160 per month and see less traffic on the roads.

Of course that is the undoubted benefit of higher fuel prices so the higher
the better. Lets get all those frivolous drivers off our roads so that
serious road users can benefit. I bet the resulting lack of congestion would
save on fuel costs in the end.


As much as it pains me to do so, I tend to agree with you on this point.
What we need to do is remove from the roads the traffic caused by the
pointless journeys. The only way we can do that is price the cost of it
so that people think twice about making the journey.

ISTM bizarre that in this day and age we have old folk frightened to put
their heating on in the winter because they cannot afford the fuel
bills, and we have teenagers and single mums on benefits, running around
in cars.



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Simon
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On 20/11/2011 09:48, Tony Dragon wrote:
On 20/11/2011 08:50, Doug wrote:
On 18-Nov-2011, Simon wrote:

On 18/11/2011 14:48, Simon Mason wrote:
On Nov 17, 7:33 am, Simon
wrote:
On 17/11/2011 04:05, Simon Mason wrote:



On Nov 16, 11:46 pm, wrote:
On Nov 16, 6:53 pm, wrote:

Doug wrote:
Fortunately this hardly affects cyclists at all.

so why are you mentioning it here?

"just about everybody on this group have said they own a car."

I am not moaning about high petrol prices as
a) I work for an oil company.
b) I get a staff discount c) I hardly ever drive anyway.

Win win win.

Higher prices, less traffic!

--
Simon
For personal replies, please use my reply-to address.- Hide quoted
text
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My fuel bills are going through the roof due to me driving Mrs M out
to all of these hills.
I've just put another 70 quids worth in. :-(


It does not go far, I spend approx £80 a month on diesel. Still I’d
rather pay £160 per month and see less traffic on the roads.

Of course that is the undoubted benefit of higher fuel prices so the
higher
the better. Lets get all those frivolous drivers off our roads so that
serious road users can benefit. I bet the resulting lack of congestion
would
save on fuel costs in the end.

Doug.

Yes, the higher the better, we all know that only motorists use fuel.

Those lorries, buses, trains, ambulances, hospitals, etc do not use fuel
at all, they are powered by Pixie Dust that falls out of the skies in
cloud cockoo land.

Simple answer.

Tax the fuel either for either private use or public service.


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Simon
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