Curiouser and Curiouser

Astana, who had problems funding this year is claiming that they intend to
hold Contador to his contract next year.

Does this mean that Contador won't be able to ride the Tour if Astana
insists also on Alexander Vinokourov riding the Tour?

In that case any bets on who would stand the best chance of winning the
Tour? Maybe the winner of the Tour of California next year?

On Aug 17, 9:49*pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
Astana, who had problems funding this year is claiming that they intend to
hold Contador to his contract next year.

Does this mean that Contador won't be able to ride the Tour if Astana
insists also on Alexander Vinokourov riding the Tour?

In that case any bets on who would stand the best chance of winning the
Tour? Maybe the winner of the Tour of California next year?

dumbass,

contador will find a spanish sponsor who will buy out his contract at
astana and he will ride for caisse d'espargne.

vino and astana will miss the tour.

In article ,
Amit Ghosh wrote:

On Aug 17, 9:49*pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
Astana, who had problems funding this year is claiming that they intend to
hold Contador to his contract next year.

Does this mean that Contador won't be able to ride the Tour if Astana
insists also on Alexander Vinokourov riding the Tour?

In that case any bets on who would stand the best chance of winning the
Tour? Maybe the winner of the Tour of California next year?

dumbass,

contador will find a spanish sponsor who will buy out his contract at
astana and he will ride for caisse d'espargne.

vino and astana will miss the tour.

Caisse d'Espargne seem to be looking for a second big sponsor to enable them to do
just that. I hope they do it.

--
tanx,
Howard

Caught playing safe
It's a bored game

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

"Howard Kveck" wrote in message
...
In article
,
Amit Ghosh wrote:

On Aug 17, 9:49 pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
Astana, who had problems funding this year is claiming that they
intend to
hold Contador to his contract next year.

Does this mean that Contador won't be able to ride the Tour if
Astana
insists also on Alexander Vinokourov riding the Tour?

In that case any bets on who would stand the best chance of winning
the
Tour? Maybe the winner of the Tour of California next year?

dumbass,

contador will find a spanish sponsor who will buy out his contract at
astana and he will ride for caisse d'espargne.

vino and astana will miss the tour.

Caisse d'Espargne seem to be looking for a second big sponsor to
enable them to do
just that. I hope they do it.

I don't think there's enough money to make that happen. This has become
a matter of Kazakh pride; if they can put together a team that includes
a few locals and say they won the Tour de France, without Lance, without
Johan, that probably means something to them.

The TdF won't exclude the entire team if Vino tries to come back;
they'll simply find a way to exclude Vino alone. If the team shows up
with Vino, either Vino goes, or the team goes. Easy to see how that will
play out.

Seriously, what is the point of Astana releasing Contador for a
reasonable fee? Because they want to be nice guys? They've got the goose
that lays the golden eggs. You don't give that up for nothing. That
single year remaining on Contador's contract might be worth $10 million.
Where does Spanish cycling come up with that sort of money?

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

On Aug 17, 11:16*pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
wrote:
"Howard Kveck" wrote in message

...





In article
,
Amit Ghosh wrote:

On Aug 17, 9:49 pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
Astana, who had problems funding this year is claiming that they
intend to
hold Contador to his contract next year.

Does this mean that Contador won't be able to ride the Tour if
Astana
insists also on Alexander Vinokourov riding the Tour?

In that case any bets on who would stand the best chance of winning
the
Tour? Maybe the winner of the Tour of California next year?

dumbass,

contador will find a spanish sponsor who will buy out his contract at
astana and he will ride for caisse d'espargne.

vino and astana will miss the tour.

* Caisse d'Espargne seem to be looking for a second big sponsor to
enable them to do
just that. I hope they do it.

I don't think there's enough money to make that happen. This has become
a matter of Kazakh pride; if they can put together a team that includes
a few locals and say they won the Tour de France, without Lance, without
Johan, that probably means something to them.

The TdF won't exclude the entire team if Vino tries to come back;
they'll simply find a way to exclude Vino alone. If the team shows up
with Vino, either Vino goes, or the team goes. Easy to see how that will
play out.

Seriously, what is the point of Astana releasing Contador for a
reasonable fee? Because they want to be nice guys? They've got the goose
that lays the golden eggs. You don't give that up for nothing. That
single year remaining on Contador's contract might be worth $10 million.
Where does Spanish cycling come up with that sort of money?


Dumbass -

It's possible. Some Spaniards might see it as a point of national
pride.

All they need is one very rich, stupidly nationalistic Spaniard.

thanks,

Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.

On Aug 17, 11:07*pm, Howard Kveck wrote:
In article ,
*Amit Ghosh wrote:



On Aug 17, 9:49*pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
Astana, who had problems funding this year is claiming that they intend to
hold Contador to his contract next year.

Does this mean that Contador won't be able to ride the Tour if Astana
insists also on Alexander Vinokourov riding the Tour?

In that case any bets on who would stand the best chance of winning the
Tour? Maybe the winner of the Tour of California next year?

dumbass,

contador will find a spanish sponsor who will buy out his contract at
astana and he will ride for caisse d'espargne.

vino and astana will miss the tour.

* *Caisse d'Espargne seem to be looking for a second big sponsor to enable them to do
just that. I hope they do it.


dumbass,

then he could finally be the undisputed leader, the head-caisse.

In article
,
Amit Ghosh wrote:

On Aug 17, 11:07Â*pm, Howard Kveck wrote:
In article ,
Â*Amit Ghosh wrote:



On Aug 17, 9:49Â*pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
Astana, who had problems funding this year is claiming that they intend to
hold Contador to his contract next year.

Does this mean that Contador won't be able to ride the Tour if Astana
insists also on Alexander Vinokourov riding the Tour?

In that case any bets on who would stand the best chance of winning the
Tour? Maybe the winner of the Tour of California next year?

dumbass,

contador will find a spanish sponsor who will buy out his contract at
astana and he will ride for caisse d'espargne.

vino and astana will miss the tour.

Â* Â*Caisse d'Espargne seem to be looking for a second big sponsor to enable them to do
just that. I hope they do it.


dumbass,

then he could finally be the undisputed leader, the head-caisse.

You're grounded.

--
Michael Press
rbr virtual moderator

In article ,
"Mike Jacoubowsky" wrote:

"Howard Kveck" wrote in message
...
In article
,
Amit Ghosh wrote:

On Aug 17, 9:49 pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
Astana, who had problems funding this year is claiming that they
intend to
hold Contador to his contract next year.

Does this mean that Contador won't be able to ride the Tour if
Astana
insists also on Alexander Vinokourov riding the Tour?

In that case any bets on who would stand the best chance of winning
the
Tour? Maybe the winner of the Tour of California next year?

dumbass,

contador will find a spanish sponsor who will buy out his contract at
astana and he will ride for caisse d'espargne.

vino and astana will miss the tour.

Caisse d'Espargne seem to be looking for a second big sponsor to
enable them to do
just that. I hope they do it.

I don't think there's enough money to make that happen. This has become
a matter of Kazakh pride; if they can put together a team that includes
a few locals and say they won the Tour de France, without Lance, without
Johan, that probably means something to them.

The TdF won't exclude the entire team if Vino tries to come back;
they'll simply find a way to exclude Vino alone. If the team shows up
with Vino, either Vino goes, or the team goes. Easy to see how that will
play out.

Seriously, what is the point of Astana releasing Contador for a
reasonable fee? Because they want to be nice guys? They've got the goose
that lays the golden eggs. You don't give that up for nothing. That
single year remaining on Contador's contract might be worth $10 million.
Where does Spanish cycling come up with that sort of money?

I do not see it.
Vinokourov cannot have competition on the team.
Astana does not want to keep Contador, but need
to keep a hard line to negotiate with.

--
Michael Press

Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
Seriously, what is the point of Astana releasing Contador for a
reasonable fee? Because they want to be nice guys? They've got the goose
that lays the golden eggs. You don't give that up for nothing. That
single year remaining on Contador's contract might be worth $10 million.
Where does Spanish cycling come up with that sort of money?

The reason people are talking about getting someone to buyout
his contract is because that is less involved than taking
legal action over a late payment or two. But I'll bet the
grounds are there for Contador to just bail.

Bob Schwartz

"Mike Jacoubowsky" wrote in message
m...

Seriously, what is the point of Astana releasing Contador for a reasonable
fee? Because they want to be nice guys? They've got the goose that lays
the golden eggs. You don't give that up for nothing. That single year
remaining on Contador's contract might be worth $10 million. Where does
Spanish cycling come up with that sort of money?

That's pretty much what I'm thinking as well.