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Your only defense is to use the water bottle... or hammer the pedals for a
while. Catching the dog is probably not a good idea... but catching the dogs owner is. fwiw "GABIKE" Went riding yesterday and while I have been chased many times by dogs, I got chased last night by a great dane, he was as tall as I was on the bike. Never given this much thought in the past because a dog has never scared me before. What do dogs do to riders if they ever catch them? |
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E-ddy!!!!!
Seriously, all of my encounters have been easily managed with one or a combo of the following: 1. Say "hi puppy!" etc., in a high-pitched falsetto little girl voice. Percieved as non-threatening, they often lose interest and trot away. 2. If that doesn't work yell "SIT! STAY!", in a VERY commanding voice, and hope they think your are their master. Fun when it works!! 3. I usually find that squirting them with water doesn't help on a hot day if they've been chasing for long cause they are thirsty and will hang with you for the relief. I used to carry some dog biscuits in my saddle bag and would toss them out if all of the above failed. 4. When all else fails, go to big ring, stand up and hope they don't get in your front wheel. There was a big dog that charged us every Saturday on Sunday on our northern route. I mentioned to my father and he recognized the location of the farm and knew the owner. From the following weekend on, "Rusty" was in the screened-in porch every weekend! ie ride fast, take chances -------- "GABIKE" wrote in message ... Went riding yesterday and while I have been chased many times by dogs, I got chased last night by a great dane, he was as tall as I was on the bike. Never given this much thought in the past because a dog has never scared me before. What do dogs do to riders if they ever catch them? |
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"Mike Jacoubowsky/Chain Reaction Bicycles" wrote
in message . com... Absolutely true. If I'm not in a rush, I actually enjoy stopping and staring them (dogs) down, assuming, of course, it's not drooling too much and audibly ganshing teeth! It has an amazingly powerful effect when you simply stop and stare a dog down (when it's been coming after you). They just don't know what to do, because that's not the way they're programmed. And experience has told me that this can actually "break" a dog psychologically... they will sometimes stop going after cyclists after such an experience. But keep in mind this works with relatively "normal" dogs. If somebody has trained a pitbull (or any other aggressive breed) to shred & kill, you really ought to find someplace else to be. But the same rules of safety still apply- put your bike between you and the dog. --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles www.ChainReaction.com It's a dangerous thing to stare down a dog you don't know. You're directly challenging his dominance and if he decides that he's dominant, you might get bit. They're absolutely programmed for stare contests..that's one of the most basic methods they use for establishing rank in the pack and it IS a fairly serious event for the dog. For the most part, dogs are happy to be submissive, don't want a fight and will back down. Which is the same reason most dogs don't bite when they chase you. They just see something that looks exciting and they're in it for the fun of the chase. As soon as the chase stops, they're back to being normal, boring dogs. I think the stare-down is an unnecessary risk. Unfortunately, it is this type of reaction that is necessary to stop that behaviour. When the dog chases cyclists and we ride away at a furious pace, the dog is happy and this reinforces the desire to keep doing it because it's so much fun for him. The owner is really the one who should curb the behaviour with some dominance assertion. It shouldn't have to come to a cyclist gambling on a dominance challenge to curb the dog's behaviour. That's risky for you. Unfortunately, owners are rarely held accountable for their dog's actions, which is unfortunate for the dog and the people they bite. Cheers, Scott.. |
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It's a dangerous thing to stare down a dog you don't know. You're
directly challenging his dominance and if he decides that he's dominant, you might get bit. They're absolutely programmed for stare contests..that's one of the most basic methods they use for establishing rank in the pack and it IS a fairly serious event for the dog. For the most part, dogs are happy to be submissive, don't want a fight and will back down. Which is the same reason most dogs don't bite when they chase you. They just see something that looks exciting and they're in it for the fun of the chase. As soon as the chase stops, they're back to being normal, boring dogs. I think the stare-down is an unnecessary risk. Unfortunately, it is this type of reaction that is necessary to stop that behaviour. When the dog chases cyclists and we ride away at a furious pace, the dog is happy and this reinforces the desire to keep doing it because it's so much fun for him. The owner is really the one who should curb the behaviour with some dominance assertion. It shouldn't have to come to a cyclist gambling on a dominance challenge to curb the dog's behaviour. That's risky for you. Unfortunately, owners are rarely held accountable for their dog's actions, which is unfortunate for the dog and the people they bite. Scott: You're right, of course, and yet I don't find that many dogs that are willing to continue to press when they discover that you're not afraid of them. Dogs have this way of sensing fear that's almost unbelievable. Maybe I'm just dumb and wasn't born with enough respect for nasty dogs? But, once broken, a dog just doesn't seem as nasty towards cyclists in the future. The stuff about spraying them with water or mace works great that one time, but doesn't seem to deter them from trying again. Maybe I was a snake charmer in a former life? --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com |
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I resort to staring them down only when I know I can't outrun them for some
reason. I know its risky, but if its a dog you won't beat at the dominance game, its probably gonna try to go for you anyway, I think. Another thing is I will only stop the bike and get off when I'm pretty sure I'm off of their turf. Dogs will be much more aggressive if you are intruding on their territory. Duffy "Mike Jacoubowsky" wrote in message gy.com... It's a dangerous thing to stare down a dog you don't know. You're directly challenging his dominance and if he decides that he's dominant, you might get bit. They're absolutely programmed for stare contests..that's one of the most basic methods they use for establishing rank in the pack and it IS a fairly serious event for the dog. For the most part, dogs are happy to be submissive, don't want a fight and will back down. Which is the same reason most dogs don't bite when they chase you. They just see something that looks exciting and they're in it for the fun of the chase. As soon as the chase stops, they're back to being normal, boring dogs. I think the stare-down is an unnecessary risk. Unfortunately, it is this type of reaction that is necessary to stop that behaviour. When the dog chases cyclists and we ride away at a furious pace, the dog is happy and this reinforces the desire to keep doing it because it's so much fun for him. The owner is really the one who should curb the behaviour with some dominance assertion. It shouldn't have to come to a cyclist gambling on a dominance challenge to curb the dog's behaviour. That's risky for you. Unfortunately, owners are rarely held accountable for their dog's actions, which is unfortunate for the dog and the people they bite. Scott: You're right, of course, and yet I don't find that many dogs that are willing to continue to press when they discover that you're not afraid of them. Dogs have this way of sensing fear that's almost unbelievable. Maybe I'm just dumb and wasn't born with enough respect for nasty dogs? But, once broken, a dog just doesn't seem as nasty towards cyclists in the future. The stuff about spraying them with water or mace works great that one time, but doesn't seem to deter them from trying again. Maybe I was a snake charmer in a former life? --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com |
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I have yet to see a bad tempered great dane. In spite of their
humungous size, they are actually good in city apartments. I've known people who've kept them in the city and they are really easy, not hyper or barky. And if they do bark, they can scare away any possible intruder. I have never seen a mean one either till that ride. He was doing that growley/barkey thing as he ran towards me, kind of like what my german shepard does when hes chasing a rabbit or squerrel in the back yard. When my dog catches them, he doesnt give up and say that was fun and trot back to the porch. There is usually something morbid to follow. He loves to play fetch, if he cant find a ball he will dig up a rock (stupid dog), one day he droped a "ball" at my wifes feet, she almost picked it up when she realized it was a rabbit head. Needless to say it was a significant emotional event for my wife who always had pet rabbits when she was little. I tried not to laugh, but that was funny stuff. |
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While starting to ride really fast, I usually turn and face the dog and say
in a commanding voice... "GET DOWN OFF THE COUCH" They usually know that command or at the very least are confused enough to look at me with a "what the f*ck?" J.P. "GABIKE" wrote in message ... Went riding yesterday and while I have been chased many times by dogs, I got chased last night by a great dane, he was as tall as I was on the bike. Never given this much thought in the past because a dog has never scared me before. What do dogs do to riders if they ever catch them? |
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The tradition in group rides is to allow them to catch and eat the slowest
riders, proving Darwin was right once again. -- alan Anyone who believes in a liberal media has never read the "Daily Oklahoman." "GABIKE" wrote in message ... What do dogs do to riders if they ever catch them? |
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