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Old August 10th 13, 11:25 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
Judith[_4_]
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Sandwich-eating driver cleared of dangerous driving death.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-23626666

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Old August 10th 13, 01:09 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
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Judith wrote:
Sandwich-eating driver cleared of dangerous driving death.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-23626666


Fair enough. What's the problem?

The driver was not proven to be eating 5 secs before he hit the cyclist.
At 30 MPH thats a decent gap and time to react. The cyclist had no
lights or reflectors.

Had the cyclist lived, I would have tried to find a way to sue him for
causing an avoidable accident and something to do with mental distress.
Dunno what, but I would have tried to go after him.

I live on the Olympic cycling route in surrey, and since the Olympics,
cyclists have been a damn dangerous plague.

For the record, I and my kids are cyclists.

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Old August 10th 13, 01:18 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
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On 10/08/2013 11:25, Judith wrote:

Sandwich-eating driver cleared of dangerous driving death.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-23626666


Was the driver a carnivorous sandwich-eater or a herbivore?
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Old August 10th 13, 02:38 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
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JNugent wrote:

On 10/08/2013 11:25, Judith wrote:

Sandwich-eating driver cleared of dangerous driving death.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-23626666


Was the driver a carnivorous sandwich-eater or a herbivore?


Ah! I think I can see what you are going with this: If the driver was
in the habit of eating, say grated carrot sandwiches, they could have
seen better in the dark and the accident wouldn't have happened.

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Old August 10th 13, 02:46 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
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"Alexis" wrote in message ...

JNugent wrote:

On 10/08/2013 11:25, Judith wrote:

Sandwich-eating driver cleared of dangerous driving death.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-23626666


Was the driver a carnivorous sandwich-eater or a herbivore?


Ah! I think I can see what you are going with this: If the driver was
in the habit of eating, say grated carrot sandwiches, they could have
seen better in the dark and the accident wouldn't have happened.

Or better still, if the cyclist had lights or reflectors, the accident
wouldn't have happened either.
Sorry, but am I just stating the bleedin' obvious?

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Old August 10th 13, 02:50 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
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On 10/08/2013 11:25, Judith wrote:
Sandwich-eating driver cleared of dangerous driving death.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-23626666

I suppose it depends somewhat on whether or not it was dark at the time.
Do you have to celebrate every cyclist that gets killed?

For my money anyone eating, reading maps newspapers or texting whilst
driving is guilty of careless driving if they only hit street furniture
or barriers and dangerous driving if they kill or injure someone.

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Old August 10th 13, 04:38 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
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On 10/08/2013 14:38, Alexis wrote:

JNugent wrote:


On 10/08/2013 11:25, Judith wrote:

Sandwich-eating driver cleared of dangerous driving death.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-23626666


Was the driver a carnivorous sandwich-eater or a herbivore?


Ah! I think I can see what you are going with this: If the driver was
in the habit of eating, say grated carrot sandwiches, they could have
seen better in the dark and the accident wouldn't have happened.


Possibly.

he'd also be better equipped to spot man-eating tigers in the jungle at
night.
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Old August 10th 13, 05:45 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
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"Martin Brown" wrote in message
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On 10/08/2013 11:25, Judith wrote:
Sandwich-eating driver cleared of dangerous driving death.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-23626666

I suppose it depends somewhat on whether or not it was dark at the time.
Do you have to celebrate every cyclist that gets killed?


I took this to be a report on the trial, the cyclist died over a year ago.

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Old August 10th 13, 07:12 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
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On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 14:50:02 +0100, Martin Brown
wrote:

On 10/08/2013 11:25, Judith wrote:
Sandwich-eating driver cleared of dangerous driving death.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-23626666

I suppose it depends somewhat on whether or not it was dark at the time.
Do you have to celebrate every cyclist that gets killed?



I'm sorry - what on earth do you mean "celebrate"? Which particular words have
I used which lead to that conclusion?

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Old August 10th 13, 10:56 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
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On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 14:50:02 +0100, Martin Brown
wrote:

On 10/08/2013 11:25, Judith wrote:
Sandwich-eating driver cleared of dangerous driving death.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-23626666

I suppose it depends somewhat on whether or not it was dark at the time.
Do you have to celebrate every cyclist that gets killed?

For my money anyone eating, reading maps newspapers or texting whilst
driving is guilty of careless driving if they only hit street furniture
or barriers and dangerous driving if they kill or injure someone.


Whether it is careless driving (section 3 RTA) or dangerous driving
(section 2 RTA) has nothing to do with results.

If somebody gets killed that turns a section 2 offence into section
1, or a section 3 offence into section 2B. But it doesn't change
careless into dangerous.
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