Tour de France, stage 4 summary

Stage 4 : Tuesday, July 7 2009, Montpellier - Montpellier (TTT), 39 km

1 Astana 0.46.29
2 Garmin - Slipstream 0.18
3 Team Saxo Bank 0.40
4 Liquigas 0.58
5 Team Columbia-HTC 0.59
6 Team Katusha 1.23
7 Caisse d'Epargne 1.29
8 Cervelo Test Team 1.38
9 AG2R-La Mondiale 1.49
10 Euskaltel - Euskadi 2.10


Changes in stage 4 compared to stage 3 :

Biggest gainers by position :
+91 Chris Anker Sorensen
+84 Frederik Willems
+82 Mark Cavendish
+78 Aleksandr Kuschynski
+68 Nikolai Troussov
+67 Alexandre Botcharov
+66 Bert Grabsch
+64 Jose Angel Gomez Marchante
+63 David Arroyo Duran
+59 Inigo Cuesta Lopez De Castro

Biggest losers by position :
-131 Jurgen Van Den Broeck
-109 Fabian Wegmann
-109 Thierry Huppond
-98 Cycril Lemoine
-96 Niki Terpstra
-92 Laurent Lefevre
-92 Maxime Bouet
-86 William Bonnet
-71 David Lelay
-69 Alessandro Ballan
-65 Pierrick Fedrigo

Biggest gainers by time :
+0:40 Sergio Miguel Moreira Paulinho
+0:40 Levi Leipheimer
+0:40 Lance Armstrong
+0:40 Haimar Zubeldia Aguirre
+0:40 Andreas Kloden
+0:40 Alberto Contador Velasco
+0:23 Yaroslav Popovych
+0:22 Ryder Hesjedal
+0:22 David Zabriskie
+0:22 David Millar

Biggest losers by time :
-6:43 Romain Feillu
-6:42 Fabian Wegmann
-6:40 Angelo Furlan
-6:24 Jurgen Van Den Broeck
-6:24 Staf Scheirlinckx
-6:19 Bernhard Eisel
-5:55 Danilo Napolitano
-5:52 Gregory Rast
-5:46 Alan Perez Lezaun
-5:28 Niki Terpstra
-5:28 Peter Wrolich

Favourites by position :
+45 Frank Schleck
+35 Franco Pellizotti
+19 Jens Voigt
+13 Kim Kirchen
+5 Levi Leipheimer
+4 Andy Schleck
+1 Lance Armstrong
+1 Alberto Contador Velasco
-3 Roman Kreuziger
-3 Carlos Sastre Candil
-16 Denis Menchov
-27 Cadel Evans
-28 Robert Gesink
-38 Marzio Bruseghin

Favourites by time :
+0:40 Levi Leipheimer
+0:40 Lance Armstrong
+0:40 Alberto Contador Velasco
-0:18 Roman Kreuziger
-0:18 Franco Pellizotti
-0:19 Kim Kirchen
-0:43 Vladimir Karpets
-0:57 Carlos Sastre Candil
-1:40 Robert Gesink
-1:40 Denis Menchov
-1:55 Cadel Evans
-2:44 Marzio Bruseghin

Top 3 and favourites standings :
1 Fabian Cancellara 10.38.07
2 Lance Armstrong 0.00
3 Alberto Contador Velasco 0.19
.....
5 Levi Leipheimer 0.31
.....
15 Roman Kreuziger 1.31
.....
20 Andy Schleck 1.41
.....
22 Jens Voigt 2.03
.....
24 Kim Kirchen 2.16
25 Frank Schleck 2.17
.....
27 Vladimir Karpets 2.31
28 Franco Pellizotti 2.32
29 Carlos Sastre Candil 2.44
.....
35 Cadel Evans 2.59
.....
62 Robert Gesink 3.36
.....
72 Denis Menchov 3.52
.....
110 Marzio Bruseghin 5.02

Retirements to date : Stage
Jurgen Van De Walle (Bel) Quick Step 3
Total retirements : 1

In article ,
Bob Martin wrote:

Biggest losers by time :
-6:43 Romain Feillu

Instant karma.

Additional note: The original stage 3 break away group of four
finished with the front pack.

4 Samuel Dumoulin (Fra) Cofidis, Le Credit en Ligne+:00:00
9 Maxime Bouet (Fra) Agritubel+:00:00
13 Ruben Perez Moreno (Spa) Euskaltel - Euskadi+:00:00
20 Koen de Kort (Ned) Skil-Shimano+:00:00

--
Michael Press

Wasn't Romain Feillu the jackass that sprinted for 29th place
yesterday?

Looks like he blew his wad on that.

In article ,
Bob Martin wrote:


Stage 4 : Tuesday, July 7 2009, Montpellier - Montpellier (TTT), 39 km

1 Astana
0.46.29
2 Garmin - Slipstream
0.18
3 Team Saxo Bank
0.40
4 Liquigas
0.58
5 Team Columbia-HTC
0.59
6 Team Katusha
1.23
7 Caisse d'Epargne
1.29
8 Cervelo Test Team
1.38
9 AG2R-La Mondiale
1.49
10 Euskaltel - Euskadi
2.10

One thing I haven't seen published anywhere was the list of riders who
did NOT get their team time due to being dropped, and what those times
were.

I know it's extractable from a list of the Stage 3 and Stage 4 GC
standings (plus the TTT result), but that's hard and annoying.

--
Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

Ryan Cousineau wrote:
One thing I haven't seen published anywhere was the list of riders who
did NOT get their team time due to being dropped, and what those times
were.

I know it's extractable from a list of the Stage 3 and Stage 4 GC
standings (plus the TTT result), but that's hard and annoying.

Individual stage results are supposed to be listed at letour.fr but are
not there yet.

http://www.letour.fr/2009/TDF/LIVE/f...ent/index.html
- click the big headline tab "CLASSEMENT DE L'ÉTAPE"
- click the smaller tab "Individuel"

JavaScript navigation is evil!!

Susan Walker wrote:
JavaScript navigation is evil!!

REST in peace.

In article ,
Susan Walker wrote:

Ryan Cousineau wrote:
One thing I haven't seen published anywhere was the list of riders who
did NOT get their team time due to being dropped, and what those times
were.

I know it's extractable from a list of the Stage 3 and Stage 4 GC
standings (plus the TTT result), but that's hard and annoying.

Individual stage results are supposed to be listed at letour.fr but are
not there yet.

http://www.letour.fr/2009/TDF/LIVE/f...ent/index.html
- click the big headline tab "CLASSEMENT DE L'ÉTAPE"
- click the smaller tab "Individuel"

JavaScript navigation is evil!!

I wouldn't assume from that page that the individual results will ever
be there. It's surely a template used for all stages, and one which is
fine for non-TTT stages.

Despite the useful info individual results would offer, they probably
won't bother.

--
Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

In article ,
Donald Munro wrote:

Susan Walker wrote:
JavaScript navigation is evil!!

REST in peace.

They're doing it wrong.

For all its sins, Facebook has a really solid understanding of the
philosophy behind the RESTful interface, and when to give an entity its
own URL. Better even than YouTube, for example.

--
Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

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In article ,
Susan Walker wrote:

Ryan Cousineau wrote:
One thing I haven't seen published anywhere was the list of riders who
did NOT get their team time due to being dropped, and what those times
were.

I know it's extractable from a list of the Stage 3 and Stage 4 GC
standings (plus the TTT result), but that's hard and annoying.

Individual stage results are supposed to be listed at letour.fr but are
not there yet.

http://www.letour.fr/2009/TDF/LIVE/f...ent/index.html
- click the big headline tab "CLASSEMENT DE L'�TAPE"
- click the smaller tab "Individuel"

JavaScript navigation is evil!!

I wouldn't assume from that page that the individual results will ever
be there. It's surely a template used for all stages, and one which is
fine for non-TTT stages.

Despite the useful info individual results would offer, they probably
won't bother.

Is this what you want (stage 4 GC - stage 3 GC)?
Not the actual finish positions but times to the second.

Alberto Contador Velasco (Spa) Astana 0:46:29
Andreas Kloden (Ger) Astana 0:00
Haimar Zubeldia Aguirre (Spa) Astana 0:00
Lance Armstrong (USA) Astana 0:00
Levi Leipheimer (USA) Astana 0:00
Sergio Miguel Moreira Paulinho (Por) Astana 0:00
Yaroslav Popovych (Ukr) Astana 0:17
Bradley Wiggins (GBr) Garmin - Slipstream 0:18
Christian Vande Velde (USA) Garmin - Slipstream 0:18
David Millar (GBr) Garmin - Slipstream 0:18
David Zabriskie (USA) Garmin - Slipstream 0:18
Ryder Hesjedal (Can) Garmin - Slipstream 0:18
Andy Schleck (Lux) Team Saxo Bank 0:40
Fabian Cancellara (Swi) Team Saxo Bank 0:40
Frank Schleck (Lux) Team Saxo Bank 0:40
Gustav Erik Larsson (Swe) Team Saxo Bank 0:40
Jens Voigt (Ger) Team Saxo Bank 0:40
Kurt-Asle Arvesen (Nor) Team Saxo Bank 0:40
Chris Anker Sorensen (Den) Team Saxo Bank 0:46
Brian Vandborg (Den) Liquigas 0:58
Franco Pellizotti (Ita) Liquigas 0:58
Frederik Willems (Bel) Liquigas 0:58
Roman Kreuziger (Cze) Liquigas 0:58
Vincenzo Nibali (Ita) Liquigas 0:58
Bert Grabsch (Ger) Team Columbia - High Road 0:59
George Hincapie (USA) Team Columbia - High Road 0:59
Kim Kirchen (Lux) Team Columbia - High Road 0:59
Mark Cavendish (GBr) Team Columbia - High Road 0:59
Maxime Monfort (Bel) Team Columbia - High Road 0:59
Michael Rogers (Aus) Team Columbia - High Road 0:59
Tony Martin (Ger) Team Columbia - High Road 0:59
Fabio Sabatini (Ita) Liquigas 1:05
Aleksandr Kuschynski (Blr) Liquigas 1:09
Nicki Sorensen (Den) Team Saxo Bank 1:11
Stuart O'Grady (Aus) Team Saxo Bank 1:11
Alexandre Botcharov (Rus) Team Katusha 1:23
Filippo Pozzato (Ita) Team Katusha 1:23
Mikhail Ignatiev (Rus) Team Katusha 1:23
Nikolai Troussov (Rus) Team Katusha 1:23
Serguei Ivanov (Rus) Team Katusha 1:23
Vladimir Karpets (Rus) Team Katusha 1:23
Jose Ivan Gutierrez Palacios (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne 1:29
Jose Joaquin Rojas Gil (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne 1:29
Luis Leon Sanchez Gil (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne 1:29
Luis Pasamontes Rodriguez (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne 1:29
Oscar Pereiro Sio (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne 1:29
Rigoberto Uran (Col) Caisse d'Epargne 1:29
Rui Alberto Faria da Costa (Por) Caisse d'Epargne 1:29
David Arroyo Duran (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne 1:34
Brett Lancaster (Aus) Cervelo Test Team 1:37
Carlos Sastre Candil (Spa) Cervelo Test Team 1:37
Hayden Roulston (NZl) Cervelo Test Team 1:37
Heinrich Haussler (Ger) Cervelo Test Team 1:37
Inigo Cuesta Lopez De Castro (Spa) Cervelo Test Team 1:37
Jose Angel Gomez Marchante (Spa) Cervelo Test Team 1:37
Thor Hushovd (Nor) Cervelo Test Team 1:37
Volodymir Gustov (Ukr) Cervelo Test Team 1:37
Christophe Riblon (Fra) AG2R La Mondiale 1:48
Cyril Dessel (Fra) AG2R La Mondiale 1:48
Hubert Dupont (Fra) AG2R La Mondiale 1:48
Jose Luis Arrieta Lujambio (Spa) AG2R La Mondiale 1:48
Lloyd Mondory (Fra) AG2R La Mondiale 1:48
Nicholas Roche (Irl) AG2R La Mondiale 1:48
Rinaldo Nocentini (Ita) AG2R La Mondiale 1:48
Stephane Goubert (Fra) AG2R La Mondiale 1:48
Vladimir Efimkin (Rus) AG2R La Mondiale 1:48
Egoi Martinez De Esteban (Spa) Euskaltel - Euskadi 2:09
Gorka Verdugo Marcotegui (Spa) Euskaltel - Euskadi 2:09
Igor Anton Hernandez (Spa) Euskaltel - Euskadi 2:09
Juan Jose Oroz Ugalde (Spa) Euskaltel - Euskadi 2:09
Mikel Astarloza Chaurreau (Spa) Euskaltel - Euskadi 2:09
Koldo Fernandez De Larrea (Spa) Euskaltel - Euskadi 2:16
Denis Menchov (Rus) Rabobank 2:20
Grischa Niermann (Ger) Rabobank 2:20
Juan Antonio Flecha Giannoni (Spa) Rabobank 2:20
Juan Manuel Garate Cepa (Spa) Rabobank 2:20
Laurens ten Dam (Ned) Rabobank 2:20
Oscar Freire Gomez (Spa) Rabobank 2:20
Robert Gesink (Ned) Rabobank 2:20
Carlos Barredo Llamazales (Spa) Quick Step 2:26
Jerome Pineau (Fra) Quick Step 2:26
Sebastien Rosseler (Bel) Quick Step 2:26
Stijn Devolder (Bel) Quick Step 2:26
Sylvain Chavanel (Fra) Quick Step 2:26
Tom Boonen (Bel) Quick Step 2:26
Cadel Evans (Aus) Silence - Lotto 2:35
Charles Wegelius (GBr) Silence - Lotto 2:35
Greg Van Avermaet (Bel) Silence - Lotto 2:35
Johan Van Summeren (Bel) Silence - Lotto 2:35
Matthew Lloyd (Aus) Silence - Lotto 2:35
Mickael Delage (Fra) Silence - Lotto 2:35
Sebastian Lang (Ger) Silence - Lotto 2:35
Joan Horrach Rippoll (Spa) Team Katusha 2:41
Anthony Geslin (Fra) Francaise des Jeux 2:46
Benoit Vaugrenard (Fra) Francaise des Jeux 2:46
Christophe Le Mevel (Fra) Francaise des Jeux 2:46
Jeremy Roy (Fra) Francaise des Jeux 2:46
Jerome Coppel (Fra) Francaise des Jeux 2:46
Jussi Veikkanen (Fin) Francaise des Jeux 2:46
Sandy Casar (Fra) Francaise des Jeux 2:46
Christian Knees (Ger) Team Milram 2:48
Gerald Ciolek (Ger) Team Milram 2:48
Johannes Frohlinger (Ger) Team Milram 2:48
Linus Gerdemann (Ger) Team Milram 2:48
Peter Velits (Svk) Team Milram 2:48
Alessandro Vanotti (Ita) Liquigas 2:49
Daniele Bennati (Ita) Liquigas 2:49
Mark Renshaw (Aus) Team Columbia - High Road 2:54
Joost Posthuma (Ned) Rabobank 2:55
Amael Moinard (Fra) Cofidis, Le Credit en Ligne 2:58
Bingen Fernandez Bustinza (Spa) Cofidis, Le Credit en Ligne 2:58
Christophe Kern (Fra) Cofidis, Le Credit en Ligne 2:58
David Moncoutie (Fra) Cofidis, Le Credit en Ligne 2:58
Leonardo Duque (Col) Cofidis, Le Credit en Ligne 2:58
Remi Pauriol (Fra) Cofidis, Le Credit en Ligne 2:58
Samuel Dumoulin (Fra) Cofidis, Le Credit en Ligne 2:58
Sebastien Minard (Fra) Cofidis, Le Credit en Ligne 2:58
Stephane Auge (Fra) Cofidis, Le Credit en Ligne 2:58
Amets Txurruka (Spa) Euskaltel - Euskadi 3:03
Alessandro Ballan (Ita) Lampre - NGC 3:24
Marcin Sapa (Pol) Lampre - NGC 3:24
Marzio Bruseghin (Ita) Lampre - NGC 3:24
Mauro Santambrogio (Ita) Lampre - NGC 3:24
Simon Spilak (Slo) Lampre - NGC 3:24
Yauheni Hutarovich (Blr) Francaise des Jeux 3:30
David Loosli (Swi) Lampre - NGC 3:52
Sebastien Joly (Fra) Francaise des Jeux 3:58
Stef Clement (Ned) Rabobank 4:07
Danny Pate (USA) Garmin - Slipstream 4:14
Julian Dean (NZl) Garmin - Slipstream 4:14
Martijn Maaskant (Ned) Garmin - Slipstream 4:14
Tyler Farrar (USA) Garmin - Slipstream 4:14
Brice Feillu (Fra) Agritubel 4:17
Christophe Moreau (Fra) Agritubel 4:17
David Lelay (Fra) Agritubel 4:17
Eduardo Gonzalo Ramirez (Spa) Agritubel 4:17
Geoffroy Lequatre (Fra) Agritubel 4:17
Maxime Bouet (Fra) Agritubel 4:17
Nicolas Vogondy (Fra) Agritubel 4:17
Sylvain Calzati (Fra) Agritubel 4:17
Dmitriy Muravyev (Kaz) Astana 4:19
Ruben Perez Moreno (Spa) Euskaltel - Euskadi 4:25
Marcus Fothen (Ger) Team Milram 4:31
Daniele Righi (Ita) Lampre - NGC 4:39
Marco Bandiera (Ita) Lampre - NGC 4:39
Alexandre Pichot (Fra) BBOX Bouygues Telecom 4:41
Laurent Lefevre (Fra) BBOX Bouygues Telecom 4:41
Pierre Rolland (Fra) BBOX Bouygues Telecom 4:41
Pierrick Fedrigo (Fra) BBOX Bouygues Telecom 4:41
Said Haddou (Fra) BBOX Bouygues Telecom 4:41
Thomas Voeckler (Fra) BBOX Bouygues Telecom 4:41
William Bonnet (Fra) BBOX Bouygues Telecom 4:41
Yukiya Arashiro (Jpn) BBOX Bouygues Telecom 4:41
Yury Trofimov (Rus) BBOX Bouygues Telecom 4:41
Arnaud Coyot (Fra) Caisse d'Epargne 4:44
Stijn Vandenbergh (Bel) Team Katusha 5:06
Albert Timmer (Ned) Skil-Shimano 5:23
Cycril Lemoine (Fra) Skil-Shimano 5:23
Fumiyuki Beppu (Jpn) Skil-Shimano 5:23
Jonathan Hivert (Fra) Skil-Shimano 5:23
Kenny Robert van Hummel (Ned) Skil-Shimano 5:23
Koen de Kort (Ned) Skil-Shimano 5:23
Piet Rooijakkers (Ned) Skil-Shimano 5:23
Simon Geschke (Ger) Skil-Shimano 5:23
Thierry Huppond (Fra) Skil-Shimano 5:23
Andreas Klier (Ger) Cervelo Test Team 5:30
Matteo Tosatto (Ita) Quick Step 5:55
Steven de Jongh (Ned) Quick Step 5:55
Niki Terpstra (Ned) Team Milram 6:08
Peter Wrolich (Aut) Team Milram 6:08
Alan Perez Lezaun (Spa) Euskaltel - Euskadi 6:26
Gregory Rast (Swi) Astana 6:32
Danilo Napolitano (Ita) Team Katusha 6:35
Bernhard Eisel (Aut) Team Columbia - High Road 6:59
Jurgen Van Den Broeck (Bel) Silence - Lotto 7:04
Staf Scheirlinckx (Bel) Silence - Lotto 7:04
Angelo Furlan (Ita) Lampre - NGC 7:20
Fabian Wegmann (Ger) Team Milram 7:22
Romain Feillu (Fra) Agritubel 7:23

Ryan Cousineau wrote:
Susan Walker wrote:
http://www.letour.fr/2009/TDF/LIVE/f...ent/index.html

I wouldn't assume from that page that the individual results will ever
be there. It's surely a template used for all stages, and one which is
fine for non-TTT stages.

Despite the useful info individual results would offer, they probably
won't bother.

You might well be right.