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Motorists will even hate us more now
The story on ACA tonight will only make us more hated on the roads, we
really didn't need that story. But we do have a problem, they want us off the footpaths, and also off the roads, so where the F%$k are we supposed to ride. Great idea, about registration, but I don,t think a big number plate is going to look too cool on my Trek Road bike. Anyway, we can only live day by day, its a shame that the general public doesn't see the benefit we are doing by putting less pollution in our cities, and keeping people out of hospitals by keeping fit, no they get ****ed off because we hold them up for about 3 seconds. |
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Peter Wilson Wrote: The story on ACA tonight will only make us more hated on the roads, w really didn't need that story But we do have a problem, they want us off the footpaths, and also of th roads, so where the F%$k are we supposed to ride Great idea, about registration, but I don,t think a big number plate i going to look too cool on my Trek Road bike Anyway, we can only live day by day, its a shame that the genera publi doesn't see the benefit we are doing by putting less pollution in ou cities, and keeping people out of hospitals by keeping fit, no they ge ****ed off because we hold them up for about 3 seconds. *86,400.......86,400.......86,400*.......make 86,400 your riding mantr that's how many seconds there are in a day... do the math 60x60x24 = more than enough bloody time for a jerk of impatient to lend just a few seconds to a rider to save his life...i won't cost the driver much if he does...it could cost a rider his lif if the driver doesn't... 86,400....86,400...... 86,40 -- rooman |
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rooman Wrote: *86,400.......86,400.......86,400*.......make 86,400 your riding mantra that's how many seconds there are in a day.... do the math 60x60x24 = more than enough bloody time for a jerk off impatient to lend just a few seconds to a rider to save his life...it won't cost the driver much if he does...it could cost a rider his life if the driver doesn't.... 86,400....86,400...... 86,400 yeah and why should the government have any real incentive to do anything to change the situation when they make so much money out of fuel tax. I saw an article saying the sale of bicycles in the UK was continuing to increase due to the petrol price showing no sign of slowing down, maybe it will happen here as well, the cost of petrol will get so high, people will starting riding bikes and we can watch the government start to lose money on fuel tax, and then! they will introduce a registration for bikes and a cost to go with it. -- MikeyOz |
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"Peter Wilson" wrote in message ... The story on ACA tonight will only make us more hated on the roads, we really didn't need that story. But we do have a problem, they want us off the footpaths, and also off the roads, so where the F%$k are we supposed to ride. Great idea, about registration, but I don,t think a big number plate is going to look too cool on my Trek Road bike. Anyway, we can only live day by day, its a shame that the general public doesn't see the benefit we are doing by putting less pollution in our cities, and keeping people out of hospitals by keeping fit, no they get ****ed off because we hold them up for about 3 seconds. This idea about bicycle registration is BS as far as I'm concerned, are they gunna force 5-12 yr old kids to register their BMX's or MTB's? Don't think so!! A bicycle is not a motorised machine, so why should it have to be registered when anyone from 3-100 yrs old can ride one. To make the Government worth it's while in admin costs, rego would have to be over $80 a year, you could then see a whole industry bite the dust....bike shops closed down, more people out of work, closing of clubs, associations and not to mention, loss of freedom due to not being able to keep the old clunker going because nobody can afford it. One way to get motorists to be cycle savvy is to penalise them hard.......that means anyone found guilty of hitting a cyclist due to agravation or Hit Run should lose licence for at least 5 yrs, or even Jail terms of the same if a cyclist dies due to driver negligence and 10 yrs minimum for causing death or Hit /run They can only be aware when it will cost them BIG TIME!! After all, a cyclist is human and human life should be most important consideration.You only have to look how the law protects pedestrians on footpaths and road crossings not to mention school crossing zones, so why are people on bicycles treated different? They have the same vulnerabilities although are a lot quicker. The only difference between a motorvehicle and a gun is the person in control of the weapon.......if a death of a cyclist is caused in anger, then the penalty should be the same as a shooting. end of rant..... Cheers DJ |
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Peter Wilson Wrote: The story on ACA tonight will only make us more hated on the roads, we really didn't need that story. But we do have a problem, they want us off the footpaths, and also of the roads, so where the F%$k are we supposed to ride. Great idea, about registration, but I don,t think a big number plat is going to look too cool on my Trek Road bike. Anyway, we can only live day by day, its a shame that the genera public doesn't see the benefit we are doing by putting less pollution in our cities, and keeping people out of hospitals by keeping fit, no the get ****ed off because we hold them up for about 3 seconds. Two points: 1: the idea that registration will somehow improv compliance with road rules is at odds with motorists' behaviou (presuming that was the spin on the idea). 2: Who gets home in time t watch that crap anyway? Ritc -- ritcho |
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DJ wrote:
"Peter Wilson" wrote in message ... The story on ACA tonight will only make us more hated on the roads, we really didn't need that story. But we do have a problem, they want us off the footpaths, and also off the roads, so where the F%$k are we supposed to ride. Great idea, about registration, but I don,t think a big number plate is going to look too cool on my Trek Road bike. Anyway, we can only live day by day, its a shame that the general public doesn't see the benefit we are doing by putting less pollution in our cities, and keeping people out of hospitals by keeping fit, no they get ****ed off because we hold them up for about 3 seconds. This idea about bicycle registration is BS as far as I'm concerned, are they gunna force 5-12 yr old kids to register their BMX's or MTB's? Don't think so!! A bicycle is not a motorised machine, so why should it have to be registered when anyone from 3-100 yrs old can ride one. To make the Government worth it's while in admin costs, rego would have to be over $80 a year, you could then see a whole industry bite the dust....bike shops closed down, more people out of work, closing of clubs, associations and not to mention, loss of freedom due to not being able to keep the old clunker going because nobody can afford it. One way to get motorists to be cycle savvy is to penalise them hard.......that means anyone found guilty of hitting a cyclist due to agravation or Hit Run should lose licence for at least 5 yrs, or even Jail terms of the same if a cyclist dies due to driver negligence and 10 yrs minimum for causing death or Hit /run They can only be aware when it will cost them BIG TIME!! After all, a cyclist is human and human life should be most important consideration.You only have to look how the law protects pedestrians on footpaths and road crossings not to mention school crossing zones, so why are people on bicycles treated different? They have the same vulnerabilities although are a lot quicker. The only difference between a motorvehicle and a gun is the person in control of the weapon.......if a death of a cyclist is caused in anger, then the penalty should be the same as a shooting. end of rant..... Cheers DJ Given the huge focus on revenue building by catching speeding drivers, etc., you'd think actually enforcing the rules that protect cyclists would be a bigger priority - imagine the revenue from this! Tam |
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Tamyka Bell Wrote: DJ wrote Given the huge focus on revenue building by catching speeding drivers etc., you'd think actually enforcing the rules that protect cyclist would be a bigger priority - imagine the revenue from this Tam Yeah but that requires manpower I work with cops, one of my colleagues used to be an acciden investiagtor. I don't know any of them who are in favor of speed cams -- EuanB |
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MikeyOz Wrote: I saw an article saying the sale of bicycles in the UK was continuing t increase due to the petrol price showing no sign of slowing down, mayb it will happen here as well, the cost of petrol will get so high people will starting riding bikes and we can watch the government star to lose money on fuel tax, and then! they will introduce a registratio for bikes and a cost to go with it. The other reasons that bikes have skyrocketed in the UK is the Londo CBD tarif, and the fact that they introduced a law whereby you ca salary sacrifice a bike in the UK. Now that's a great idea! I believe they're also talking about a CBD tarif for Melbourne as well -- Walrus |
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Walrus Wrote: The other reasons that bikes have skyrocketed in the UK is the Londo CBD tarif, and the fact that they introduced a law whereby you ca salary sacrifice a bike in the UK. Now that's a great idea I believe they're also talking about a CBD tarif for Melbourne as well. They are but it's not all it's cracked up to be. The main offender with respect to congestion in the CBD are the office bound types wh drive a car in to the CBD because they're important and stuff. Generally these are the well paid types who have a car as part of thei package along with their paid for car park; the tarrif will just becom another part of the package Meanwhile those who have a genuine need to use a car in the CBD t conduct their business will be penalised; the couriers, tradies etc. It's less likely that the tarrif will be part of their package Commuters who can't afford the CBD tarrif will still drive if they liv in the Dandenongs; they'll just get off at Richmond which will push th congestion out to the perimiter of the CBD. This is what's happened i London -- EuanB |
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