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On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 19:29:09 +0100, chris French
wrote: In message , writes On 25 Apr, 16:42, Sir Jeremy wrote: On 25 Apr, 16:34, wrote: "A spokesman for the Cleveland Safety Camera Partnership said: “It is the responsibility of the contractors and the Highways Agency for signage during road works. All we can do is check that the signs are in the right place when police officers are present at the scene.” What is a "safety camera"? -- Simon Mason ask your Mrs She got caught by a mobile police unit outside a school, hiding in a big van with red stripes on it and "safety camera partnership" plastered all over it parked next to a sign on a lampost stating that cameras were operating in that area. Doesn't much help Killfiling Nuxy and co if people keep responding to him/her. think I need to add 'Motorist' in the subject line to it as well Hello sunshine Have you been added to the approved moderator list? We've not been informed. WTF does it matter to you who anyone chooses to respond to ? -- "Primary position" the middle of a traffic lane. To take the "primary position" : to ride a bike in the middle of the lane in order to obstruct other road vehicles from overtaking. A term invented by and used by psycholists and not recognised in the Highway Code. |
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On 25 Apr, 20:52, chris French
wrote: In message , writes Doesn't much help Killfiling Nuxy and co if people keep responding to him/her. think I need to add 'Motorist' in the subject line to it as well You can add me to your killfile as well and solve that problem. Well, yes I could, though that would leave others. But I've no wish to KF you Simon -- Chris French Thanks. In that case, I am in a dilemma, as neither Judith nor Nuxxy has verbally abused me and as long as they are polite and reasonable I see no reason to stop my dialog with them. -- Simon Mason |
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On 25 Apr, 21:59, "Adam Lea" wrote:
wrote: On 25 Apr, 19:30, "alan.holmes" wrote: wrote in message Was she silly enough to pay the fine, or did she ask to see the 'evidence'? She admitted she was doing 40 mph in a 30 mph zone outside of a school and since she had no money *I* was silly enough to pay the fine! I hope she took you out to a meal (or something similar) as compensation. She couldn't pay her speeding fine, so where was she going to find the money to buy a meal from? I'm sure it kept plod on their toes though, there must be many men who have points on their licence who try and make out their wives were driving. The late Paul Smith comments here. The Times, May 14, 2005 By Ben Webster, Transport Correspondent MORE than half a million drivers have avoided getting points on their licences by getting a partner to admit to a speeding offence, a survey has found. The growing practice of points-swapping is believed to be saving thousands of motorists each year from being banned from driving for accumulating 12 penalty points. A survey of 2,000 drivers by Churchill Insurance found that 2.2 per cent admitted to taking points on behalf of their partner. With 33 million licence-holders, this is the equivalent of 726,000 drivers. A third said that they would consider asking their partners to admit to their speeding offence if it prevented them from losing their licence. The overwhelming majority of those who had taken points on behalf of a partner were women. The survey follows extensive anecdotal evidence of wives accepting penalties in order to allow their husbands to keep their jobs. One in seven motorists in the survey said that they would be unable to work if they lost their licences. Police chiefs have been puzzled why the number of people being disqualified for gaining a fourth three-point penalty has fallen while the number of speeding tickets has multiplied. In 2003, 1.8 million offences were detected by speed cameras, up from 500,000 in 1999. Yet the number of people disqualified for acquiring 12 points fell from 34,000 to 33,000. The RAC Foundation said that the rise in points-swapping helped to explain the discrepancy. Edmund King, the foundation's director, said that the survey supported widespread anecdotal evidence of points fraud. He said: “The temptations are great for those who would lose their livelihoods. The wife may be faced with a choice between the family being plunged into poverty or accepting the points which her husband had incurred.” The survey also undermines claims that the low number of disqualifications proves that speed cameras are working. The AA Motoring Trust has argued that drivers must be learning their lesson after gaining three speeding penalties because so few went on to pick up four. Paul Smith, founder of the anti-camera campaign SafeSpeed, said that it was more likely that a large proportion of those drivers on the brink of a ban asked a relative or friend to take the points for any further offences. He said that points-swapping was a product of a camera-based system in which no police officer was involved in stopping the driver. The Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo) said that points- swapping was very difficult to detect and usually came to light only when a couple got divorced and the wife accused the husband of passing his points on to her. Ian Bell, Acpo's speed camera liaison officer, said that there were no routine checks on whether the person admitting to an offence was the person who had committed it: “While Gatsos photograph the rear of the vehicle, others, like Truvelos and mobile cameras, take a picture of the front and may show who was driving. But if we have got an admission by a driver, there would be no reason to check.” In January, a father was jailed for four months for perverting the course of justice after claiming that a French friend had been responsible for a speeding offence committed by his daughter. David Simmonite, 60, of Bradford, West Yorkshire, had hoped to spare his daughter, Stephanie, from receiving three points after she was flashed at 87mph on the A1 in Grantham, Lincolnshire. Police checked with the Frenchman and found that he was at home being treated for a kidney complaint at the time. The Home Office said a person who accepted points on behalf of someone else would be charged with perjury, which carries a maximum penalty of seven years imprisonment. -- Simon Mason |
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Phil W Lee wrote:
"alan.holmes" considered Sat, 25 Apr 2009 19:28:44 +0100 the perfect time to write: wrote in message ... "A spokesman for the Cleveland Safety Camera Partnership said: “It is the responsibility of the contractors and the Highways Agency for signage during road works. All we can do is check that the signs are in the right place when police officers are present at the scene.” What is a "safety camera"? It is a device used to falsly accuse motorists of exceeding the speed limit and thus raise money for the government. Alan If you're that convinced you weren't speeding, maybe you should check that your speedometer is legal. Odds are _vanishingly_ small that it isn't legal, though. They can _over-read_ by up to 10%, but _under-read_ by 0. |
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On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 19:29:09 +0100, chris French
wrote: Doesn't much help Killfiling Nuxy and co if people keep responding to him/her. As long as the nuxxious emissions are appropriately trimmed I don't care overmuch if people respond, but I do find it wearing when people quote all of one of his rants just to tell him he's a loathsome brainless trolling ****tard, as if we didn't already know that. think I need to add 'Motorist' in the subject line to it as well That's a good idea, I must try that. Guy -- http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/urc | http://www.nohelmetlaw.org.uk/ "To every complex problem there is a solution which is simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken Newsgroup may contain nuts. |
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On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 13:23:11 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
Thanks. In that case, I am in a dilemma, as neither Judith nor Nuxxy has verbally abused me and as long as they are polite and reasonable I see no reason to stop my dialog with them. Well, polite, anyway. There is certainly no intersection between nuxxy's maunderings and anything which could be called "reason". Guy -- http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/urc | http://www.nohelmetlaw.org.uk/ "To every complex problem there is a solution which is simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken Newsgroup may contain nuts. |
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Phil W Lee wrote:
thaksin considered Sat, 25 Apr 2009 22:41:34 +0100 the perfect time to write: Phil W Lee wrote: "alan.holmes" considered Sat, 25 Apr 2009 19:28:44 +0100 the perfect time to write: wrote in message ... "A spokesman for the Cleveland Safety Camera Partnership said: “It is the responsibility of the contractors and the Highways Agency for signage during road works. All we can do is check that the signs are in the right place when police officers are present at the scene.” What is a "safety camera"? It is a device used to falsly accuse motorists of exceeding the speed limit and thus raise money for the government. Alan If you're that convinced you weren't speeding, maybe you should check that your speedometer is legal. Odds are _vanishingly_ small that it isn't legal, though. They can _over-read_ by up to 10%, but _under-read_ by 0. If, of course, you're still using the exact same dimension of tyre that the car came with as standard. Granted, but I'd bet that 99% of cars are thus shod. |
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thaksin writes:
Phil W Lee wrote: thaksin considered Sat, 25 Apr 2009 22:41:34 +0100 the perfect time to write: Odds are _vanishingly_ small that it isn't legal, though. They can _over-read_ by up to 10%, but _under-read_ by 0. If, of course, you're still using the exact same dimension of tyre that the car came with as standard. Granted, but I'd bet that 99% of cars are thus shod. A brief check of the Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986 doesn't say anything about an exemption for cars with unusual tyre sizes. I conclude therefore that the legal requirement for speedometer accuracy holds nevertheless, and if you modify your car in this way it's your responsibility to finish the job properly -dan |
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