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Invisible cyclists: Eye-tracking experiment finds drivers don't seemore than 1 in 5 riders (+ video)
"More than one in five cyclists go unseen by motorists on the road,
according to an experiment using eye tracking technology conducted for the insurance company Direct Line, confirming the extent of the ‘SMIDSY’ – ‘Sorry mate, I didn’t see you. Younger drivers missed spotting nearly one in three riders, and female motorists one in four. By contrast, just 4 per cent of what Direct Line terms "jaywalking" pedestrians were not seen, and 15 per cent of motorcyclists." http://road.cc/content/news/81753-in...ore-1-5-riders |
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Invisible cyclists: Eye-tracking experiment finds drivers don'tsee more than 1 in 5 riders (+ video)
On 11/08/2015 11:04, Bod wrote:
"More than one in five cyclists go unseen by motorists on the road, according to an experiment using eye tracking technology conducted for the insurance company Direct Line, confirming the extent of the ‘SMIDSY’ – ‘Sorry mate, I didn’t see you. Younger drivers missed spotting nearly one in three riders, and female motorists one in four. By contrast, just 4 per cent of what Direct Line terms "jaywalking" pedestrians were not seen, and 15 per cent of motorcyclists." http://road.cc/content/news/81753-in...ore-1-5-riders That's an odd piece of video. Of course, the overlaid graphics don't help, but the cyclist who eventually turns right into the road from which the motor vehicle is emerging simply is not there in the part of the video before he is eventually seen turning right. You can advance the video in half-second increments - he isn't there. It may be that the red overlay masks him to the viewer of the video. But... shouldn't the cyclist have been indicating right? And slowing down for the junction and the imminent maneouvre? That would have made him more visible (and safer), wouldn't it? And when he eventually turns right, shouldn't he be turning properly, that is, offside to offside with the vehicle waiting to emerge rather than cutting the corner so as to enter the side road on the wrong side of the road? Or don't these niceties of the law apply to cyclists? |
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Invisible cyclists: Eye-tracking experiment finds drivers don'tsee more than 1 in 5 riders (+ video)
On 11/08/2015 11:26, JNugent wrote:
On 11/08/2015 11:04, Bod wrote: "More than one in five cyclists go unseen by motorists on the road, according to an experiment using eye tracking technology conducted for the insurance company Direct Line, confirming the extent of the ‘SMIDSY’ – ‘Sorry mate, I didn’t see you. Younger drivers missed spotting nearly one in three riders, and female motorists one in four. By contrast, just 4 per cent of what Direct Line terms "jaywalking" pedestrians were not seen, and 15 per cent of motorcyclists." http://road.cc/content/news/81753-in...ore-1-5-riders That's an odd piece of video. Of course, the overlaid graphics don't help, but the cyclist who eventually turns right into the road from which the motor vehicle is emerging simply is not there in the part of the video before he is eventually seen turning right. You can advance the video in half-second increments - he isn't there. It may be that the red overlay masks him to the viewer of the video. But... shouldn't the cyclist have been indicating right? And slowing down for the junction and the imminent maneouvre? That would have made him more visible (and safer), wouldn't it? And when he eventually turns right, shouldn't he be turning properly, that is, offside to offside with the vehicle waiting to emerge rather than cutting the corner so as to enter the side road on the wrong side of the road? Or don't these niceties of the law apply to cyclists? *Avoid ‘dooring’ cyclists* Dooring means to open your door (deliberately or accidentally) into a cyclist riding past. Did you know it’s illegal? It can also be fatal, and happens more than you’d expect. Don’t open any doors without checking there aren’t any cyclists behind you. You could easily sweep them clean off their bikes and it won’t be pretty. Think about the width of your door when it’s open; you easily have a 1-1.5m mobile barrier swinging into the road each time you get in or out of the car. - See more at: https://www.carwow.co.uk/blog/Driver....STo75gDR.dpuf |
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Invisible cyclists: Eye-tracking experiment finds drivers don'tsee more than 1 in 5 riders (+ video)
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 11:26:09 +0100, JNugent wrote:
And when he eventually turns right, shouldn't he be turning properly, that is, offside to offside with the vehicle waiting to emerge rather than cutting the corner so as to enter the side road on the wrong side of the road? Or don't these niceties of the law apply to cyclists? Which law mandates offside-to-offside when turning right, in your opinion? It hasn't even been common practice for decades, let alone law. regards, Ian SMith -- |\ /| no .sig |o o| |/ \| |
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Invisible cyclists: Eye-tracking experiment finds drivers don'tsee more than 1 in 5 riders (+ video)
On 11/08/2015 11:40, Bod wrote:
On 11/08/2015 11:26, JNugent wrote: On 11/08/2015 11:04, Bod wrote: "More than one in five cyclists go unseen by motorists on the road, according to an experiment using eye tracking technology conducted for the insurance company Direct Line, confirming the extent of the ‘SMIDSY’ – ‘Sorry mate, I didn’t see you. Younger drivers missed spotting nearly one in three riders, and female motorists one in four. By contrast, just 4 per cent of what Direct Line terms "jaywalking" pedestrians were not seen, and 15 per cent of motorcyclists." http://road.cc/content/news/81753-in...ore-1-5-riders That's an odd piece of video. Of course, the overlaid graphics don't help, but the cyclist who eventually turns right into the road from which the motor vehicle is emerging simply is not there in the part of the video before he is eventually seen turning right. You can advance the video in half-second increments - he isn't there. It may be that the red overlay masks him to the viewer of the video. But... shouldn't the cyclist have been indicating right? And slowing down for the junction and the imminent maneouvre? That would have made him more visible (and safer), wouldn't it? And when he eventually turns right, shouldn't he be turning properly, that is, offside to offside with the vehicle waiting to emerge rather than cutting the corner so as to enter the side road on the wrong side of the road? Or don't these niceties of the law apply to cyclists? *Avoid ‘dooring’ cyclists* What does any of that very odd remark have to do with the subject or with anything already written in this thread? I ask on the off-chance that you might know why you have written what you have written. Dooring means to open your door (deliberately or accidentally) into a cyclist riding past. Did you know it’s illegal? It can also be fatal, and happens more than you’d expect. Don’t open any doors without checking there aren’t any cyclists behind you. You could easily sweep them clean off their bikes and it won’t be pretty. Think about the width of your door when it’s open; you easily have a 1-1.5m mobile barrier swinging into the road each time you get in or out of the car. - See more at: https://www.carwow.co.uk/blog/Driver....STo75gDR.dpuf All irrelevant to the subject. Totally non-relevant. |
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Invisible cyclists: Eye-tracking experiment finds drivers don'tsee more than 1 in 5 riders (+ video)
On 11/08/2015 14:00, Ian Smith wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 11:26:09 +0100, JNugent wrote: And when he eventually turns right, shouldn't he be turning properly, that is, offside to offside with the vehicle waiting to emerge rather than cutting the corner so as to enter the side road on the wrong side of the road? Or don't these niceties of the law apply to cyclists? Which law mandates offside-to-offside when turning right, in your opinion? The one that says you must proceed on the left-hand (nearside) of the carriageway. From that, it follows that vehicles travelling in opposite directions (even when turning) must pass each other offside to offside. Try driving down the wrong side of a single carriageway everywhere you go and see how long you get away with it. I am aware that lots of people don't obey the rule at junctions (and even that in a few places, road-markings make different provision), but that's nevertheless the basic rule of the road. That cyclist entered the side road on the wrong side of its carriageway. had he been inviolved in a collision during that maneouvre, what he did would have been an aggravating and causative factor. God knows what would have happened if a driver or passenger in that side road, having checked that nothing was coming up behind, was opening his door. But you would no doubt try to absolve the cyclist from being to blame. It hasn't even been common practice for decades, let alone law. See above. |
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Invisible cyclists: Eye-tracking experiment finds drivers don'tsee more than 1 in 5 riders (+ video)
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 13:00:48 +0000 (UTC), Ian Smith wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 11:26:09 +0100, JNugent wrote: And when he eventually turns right, shouldn't he be turning properly, that is, offside to offside with the vehicle waiting to emerge rather than cutting the corner so as to enter the side road on the wrong side of the road? Or don't these niceties of the law apply to cyclists? Which law mandates offside-to-offside when turning right, in your opinion? It hasn't even been common practice for decades, let alone law. Ah, I thought you were referring to a crossroads situation, not a T-junction. I agree the cyclist didn't follow the correct route in that video. However, the cyclist isn't invisible on the version of the video I watched. He is visible the first time the driver looks left along the road, and is not under the red dots overlay. regards, Ian SMith -- |\ /| no .sig |o o| |/ \| |
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Invisible cyclists: Eye-tracking experiment finds drivers don'tsee more than 1 in 5 riders (+ video)
On Tuesday, 11 August 2015 11:04:52 UTC+1, Bod wrote:
"More than one in five cyclists go unseen by motorists on the road, according to an experiment using eye tracking technology conducted for the insurance company Direct Line, confirming the extent of the 'SMIDSY' - 'Sorry mate, I didn't see you. Younger drivers missed spotting nearly one in three riders, and female motorists one in four. By contrast, just 4 per cent of what Direct Line terms "jaywalking" pedestrians were not seen, and 15 per cent of motorcyclists." http://road.cc/content/news/81753-in...ore-1-5-riders Did the data say how many of these unobservant drivers were on their phones at the same time? That might explain it. |
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Invisible cyclists: Eye-tracking experiment finds drivers don'tsee more than 1 in 5 riders (+ video)
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 08:03:30 -0700 (PDT)
Alycidon wrote: Did the data say how many of these unobservant drivers were on their phones at the same time? That might explain it. It was happening long before mobile phones were available. |
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Invisible cyclists: Eye-tracking experiment finds drivers don'tsee more than 1 in 5 riders (+ video)
On 11/08/2015 11:40, Bod wrote:
On 11/08/2015 11:26, JNugent wrote: On 11/08/2015 11:04, Bod wrote: "More than one in five cyclists go unseen by motorists on the road, according to an experiment using eye tracking technology conducted for the insurance company Direct Line, confirming the extent of the ‘SMIDSY’ – ‘Sorry mate, I didn’t see you. Younger drivers missed spotting nearly one in three riders, and female motorists one in four. By contrast, just 4 per cent of what Direct Line terms "jaywalking" pedestrians were not seen, and 15 per cent of motorcyclists." http://road.cc/content/news/81753-in...ore-1-5-riders That's an odd piece of video. Of course, the overlaid graphics don't help, but the cyclist who eventually turns right into the road from which the motor vehicle is emerging simply is not there in the part of the video before he is eventually seen turning right. You can advance the video in half-second increments - he isn't there. It may be that the red overlay masks him to the viewer of the video. But... shouldn't the cyclist have been indicating right? And slowing down for the junction and the imminent maneouvre? That would have made him more visible (and safer), wouldn't it? And when he eventually turns right, shouldn't he be turning properly, that is, offside to offside with the vehicle waiting to emerge rather than cutting the corner so as to enter the side road on the wrong side of the road? Or don't these niceties of the law apply to cyclists? *Avoid ‘dooring’ cyclists* Dooring means to open your door (deliberately or accidentally) into a cyclist riding past. Did you know it’s illegal? It can also be fatal, and happens more than you’d expect. Don’t open any doors without checking there aren’t any cyclists behind you. You could easily sweep them clean off their bikes and it won’t be pretty. Think about the width of your door when it’s open; you easily have a 1-1.5m mobile barrier swinging into the road each time you get in or out of the car. - See more at: https://www.carwow.co.uk/blog/Driver....STo75gDR.dpuf HC Rule 67 look well ahead for obstructions in the road, such as drains, pot-holes and parked vehicles so that you do not have to swerve suddenly to avoid them. Leave plenty of room when passing parked vehicles and watch out for doors being opened or pedestrians stepping into your path |
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