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"Bicycles stop on GREEN" ??
I was riding along on route 6 in Seekonk, MA the other day (on the
shoulder as usual) and came to a red light at a 4-way intersection. Pulled up behind someone and noticed a sign on the side of the road reading "Bicycles stop on green". What is that supposed to mean? How are you supposed to stop on green (and why the hell would you want to)? Am I missing something? Needless to say I did NOT stop on green, as that is rediculous and stupid along with being dangerous (are you supposed to proceed on RED??). Also, since I noticed that one sign i've seen several along US 6, but only in MA. Anyone have any info on them (and their meaning) before I email MassHighway? Thanks. |
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Douglas Harrington wrote:
I was riding along on route 6 in Seekonk, MA the other day (on the shoulder as usual) and came to a red light at a 4-way intersection. Pulled up behind someone and noticed a sign on the side of the road reading "Bicycles stop on green". What is that supposed to mean? How are you supposed to stop on green (and why the hell would you want to)? Am I missing something? Needless to say I did NOT stop on green, as that is rediculous and stupid along with being dangerous (are you supposed to proceed on RED??). Also, since I noticed that one sign i've seen several along US 6, but only in MA. Anyone have any info on them (and their meaning) before I email MassHighway? Until recently, Mass. was the only place I have ever cycled. I have never seen such a sign. I have seen signs saying "Cyclists stop on line for green" which means something completely different. The intent is for cyclists to stop on the line _when red_ in order to trip the sensor. Are you leaving out a graphic between "on" and "green" that is also painted on the ground, showing where cyclists should stop to be detected and change the light from red to green? Austin |
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Douglas Harrington wrote:
I was riding along on route 6 in Seekonk, MA the other day (on the shoulder as usual) and came to a red light at a 4-way intersection. Pulled up behind someone and noticed a sign on the side of the road reading "Bicycles stop on green". What is that supposed to mean? ... Anyone have any info on them (and their meaning) before I email MassHighway? This isn't the first time that sign's been seen in Massachusetts. See http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?threadid=5842 They never figured it out either. -- Paul Turner |
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"AustinMN" writes: Until recently, Mass. was the only place I have ever cycled. I have never seen such a sign. I have seen signs saying "Cyclists stop on line for green" which means something completely different. The intent is for cyclists to stop on the line _when red_ in order to trip the sensor. Now /that/ makes sense. Are you leaving out a graphic between "on" and "green" that is also painted on the ground, showing where cyclists should stop to be detected and change the light from red to green? hmmm ... as I understood it, the sign was on the roadside rather than on the road itself. Either way, I too wonder if some of the wording on the sign was obscured somehow. cheers, Tom -- -- Nothing is safe from me. Above address is just a spam midden. I'm really at: tkeats [curlicue] vcn [point] bc [point] ca |
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I am a cyclist in Mass. (Bridgewater area) and I've seen that sign at many
intersections, as well as a small dotted 'lane' painted on the roadway. I could not figure it out either, but I like that suggestion that it is where you should be to trip the traffic signal. I've spent several minutes at some intersections waiting for the light to change to green and it just doesn't happen unless a CAR needs to proceed. We need a definitive answer. Maybe at www.massbike.org Steve "Douglas Harrington" wrote in message om... I was riding along on route 6 in Seekonk, MA the other day (on the shoulder as usual) and came to a red light at a 4-way intersection. Pulled up behind someone and noticed a sign on the side of the road reading "Bicycles stop on green". What is that supposed to mean? How are you supposed to stop on green (and why the hell would you want to)? Am I missing something? Needless to say I did NOT stop on green, as that is rediculous and stupid along with being dangerous (are you supposed to proceed on RED??). Also, since I noticed that one sign i've seen several along US 6, but only in MA. Anyone have any info on them (and their meaning) before I email MassHighway? Thanks. |
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Douglas Harrington wrote:
I was riding along on route 6 in Seekonk, MA the other day (on the shoulder as usual) and came to a red light at a 4-way intersection. Pulled up behind someone and noticed a sign on the side of the road reading "Bicycles stop on green". What is that supposed to mean? How are you supposed to stop on green (and why the hell would you want to)? Am I missing something? Needless to say I did NOT stop on green, as that is rediculous and stupid along with being dangerous (are you supposed to proceed on RED??). Also, since I noticed that one sign i've seen several along US 6, but only in MA. Anyone have any info on them (and their meaning) before I email MassHighway? I've seen the same thing on Rt 111 in Boxborough, MA, right about where it crosses over Rt 495. I've always laughed it off. Probably they just want you to look out for merging traffic in the intersection, but I always do that anyway, and in any event, I've never been at that intersection when there was much traffic. Dave |
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Douglas Harrington wrote:
"Bicycles stop on green". What is that supposed to mean? How are you supposed to stop on green (and why the hell would you want to)? These crazy zen signs are all over Eastern Massachusetts. They actually read, "Bicycles stop *for* green" (emphasis added), but the brain quite reasonably parses that as "on." It is not a goofball local ordinance. It is not a strange way to say yield or be careful or proceed with caution or anything like that. It is just a very stupid sign. I can't cite the source (though I think I read it in the Boston Globe), but AustinMN was absolutely right when he or she wrote: The intent is for cyclists to stop on the line _when red_ in order to trip the sensor. There is an utterly incomprehensible drawing of a bicycle and a dotted line (where you are supposed to find the sensor, maybe) on these signs as well. Armed with this knowledge, one can suppose that the word "for" in "Bicycles stop for green" means "to bring about," not "on." (As in "Push button for walk light.") This has to be the stupidest bit of signage in a world overrun with stupid signage. Monty Python-esque does not begin to describe it. |
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