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A lovely day to die
Such a lovely day here today, you could be forgiven for thinking it
were August rather than late October. On the narrowest of the lanes we ride I turned back to make a field call and met a guy in pickup truck barrelling the other way. He didn't even slow for me, and gave not an inch, his truck filling the lane. I dropped off the sharp edge of the blacktop six inches or so into slippery mud and was thrown, as one always is in these situations, towards the road; the reflex correction on these occasions is always the wrong one. In this instance I was turned perpendicular to the road and back onto the road by my momentum, and became a sitting duck for a broadside that would have thrown me clear across the next corner. I did the only thing left to me and shot at right angles across the narrow lane and off into the ditch and the hedge on the other side, clearing the front of the truck by inches. If I'd been in any other gear I would be writing to you now, if at all, by ouija board. The driver's brake lights never even came on. He was trying to run me over. There is no way he cannot have seen me: I'm a large silhouette against the low sun, and I have strong dynamo lights plus flashing lights front and rear of my bike, all of them permanently on day and night. If I see his truck, I'll turn it into an insurance write-off. If I see him, I'll make a citizen's arrest and hope he tries to resist. *** Though I've had idiots swing their cars dangerously close to me to shout, "Get off the road," and though there are plenty of idiots who cut me off at corners (once, because I make a point of humiliating them when I catch them at the next stop), this is the first time in almost twenty years as a cyclist that someone has deliberately tried to kill me. Generally -- though in part because I don't commute and can choose where I ride with due attention to my safety -- I agree with Frank Krygowski that the roads are less dangerous for cyclists than commonly thought; it is probably the only thing on which Franki Shavelegs and I agree without reservation. But this afternoon's experience was an eye opener. It isn't that I'm shaken -- as a young man I participated in several bloodsports where the expectation *in each* was one in three of not surviving through seven years of participation, and was involved in the kinds of politics and guerilla activities that give insurance companies nightmares, so the thought of dying is one I came to terms with long, long since, nor is it a novel idea to me that someone or even many people want me dead. But it is somewhere between bothersome and shocking that some total stranger should dislike cyclists so much as to want to murder me merely because I happen to the one he sees on a lonely lane. Of course, he might turn out to be some insanely jealous hushand whose wife once kissed me in public. (Women, some that I hardly know, spontaneously kiss me. It is in the pheromones.) In a way, it would be preferable if he tried to run me over for some cause, even if only in his mind, rather than as a representative cyclist. *** Maybe I can stop motorists seeing me as a representative cyclist. I could have the back of my jacket silkscreened: NOT YOUR COMMON OR GARDEN REPRESENTATIVE CYCLIST. LOTS OF OTHER CYCLISTS HATE ME. RUN OVER A ROADIE INSTEAD. Andre Jute Get a bicycle. You will not regret it. If you live -- Mark Twain |
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A lovely day to die
Wow Andre,
I read your posts, and I know everyone else does as well but where are the sympathetic replies. It's been 5 hours and nobody responded. Wow, at least I care enough to write some reply. But I will tell you, a couple things that got me turned around about how I feel about drivers, when I am out on my bike. I frequently ride at night, even in this soon to be wintery chill here in the bay area, I still get out for a night ride. I'm 51 now, and over the years a couple things have happened, that made me think about me or them. I used to always feel like they were out to get me-whoever it was. One night I was riding on elcamino real in san carlos, that is like 6 miles from home and I was riding to redwood city. Its like 9:30 pm and I am riding pretty quick like 20 mph, and a door opens from a car, and I was able to dodge out of the way, and I yelled at the guy -"you missed me," the guy replies- "I'm glad I did". From that night on I realized that that guy would never willingly hurt anyone, and something clicked in my mind. I now realized that I was wrong to think that everyone in a car was out to get me. I used to run full blast through red lights. Red lights are different than a stop sign. But anyway, I learned to be more careful out there, and slow down a bit and take in the scenery. Then I was out one night and riding through Hillsborough, and I had been out about a half hour, and heading for home, yet still like 5 miles away from home and I was riding on a bit of a downhill grade, and I see headlights coming near, and right in frount of me and like without even slowing down this lady makes a u-turn in front of me. She must not have even noticed me there coming headOn. This was a time that I used to ride by starlight. There are no (or very few) streetlights in hillsborough. She would have ran me over if I didn't react, but I was ****ed to say the least. By the time she completed the uturn in front of me, I was along side of here screaming - stupid bitch and she still did not even know I was there. Well anyway. There was another time I was riding at night and I am like 3 blocks away from home. I am riding on Alameda de las Pulgas, southbound near the Carry School and there is a small hump in the road, yet steep, so I am riding up and over the hill and a car makes a u-turn, and follows me alongside up the hill -tires screaching. And I see a gun poke out of the window, and I knew right there, I think it's over, and there was a pop. But it turned out to be only a pelet gun, and I only got nicked in the ass, the two guys were just out for trouble that night. I called the cops that time, and I went out looking for them in my van. They asked me, "did you get the license plate," I said, "it happened so fast and it was dark I couldn't see it." Nothin ever happened. Then there was this time I was riding in the day and this young guy with his girl were playing run the cyclist off the road with their mercedes. We came to a stop together and the car pulls ahead but then the car is only going like 15mph, what kind of person drives like 15mph, and they are angling there car to squeez me into parked cars with their necks turned at me and laughing. I got the plate and memorized it. I knew a place in hillsborough that has a pay phone and dialed 911, and 2 cops show up like 20 minutes later. I tell them my story and they say they are going to his fathers house and tell his father what his son is doing with his car. What else - well after all the riding, and everything, and the enjoyment of it all I still want to ride bike. There is a lot of weird people out there, but for the most part, mostly good people out there. If I could meet up with these people, well I can say that - as long as nothing happened and they were just messing with me, I forgive it all. Anyway all this stuff has happened years ago. I think Andre, that you'll get over it. Now I can recall that, seems like every time that I crashed, and being that it was nobody's fault but my own, a motorist has helped me. I fractured my skull, and was unconscious, and a person helped call police. I fell flat on my face and broke my teeth and a motorist saw it in their rear view mirror, and turned around and gave me a ride home. I crashed and broke my clavicle, and punctured my lung, and someone driving behind me stopped and made me take a ride - I seriously didn't know how bad I was hurt. I was telling the guy I was ok, and then I thought about it for a second, and said yes, I take the ride home. I was like 20 miles from home. Broken clavicle, punctured lung, handelbars turned sideways- what was I thinkin that I could make it home ok on my own. Well I still want to ride my bike. I think Andre you still want to ride as well. This isn't really bike.tech stuff, but I know you post alot - so I responded to you. Greg "Andre Jute" wrote in message ... Such a lovely day here today, you could be forgiven for thinking it were August rather than late October. On the narrowest of the lanes we ride I turned back to make a field call and met a guy in pickup truck barrelling the other way. He didn't even slow for me, and gave not an inch, his truck filling the lane. I dropped off the sharp edge of the blacktop six inches or so into slippery mud and was thrown, as one always is in these situations, towards the road; the reflex correction on these occasions is always the wrong one. In this instance I was turned perpendicular to the road and back onto the road by my momentum, and became a sitting duck for a broadside that would have thrown me clear across the next corner. I did the only thing left to me and shot at right angles across the narrow lane and off into the ditch and the hedge on the other side, clearing the front of the truck by inches. If I'd been in any other gear I would be writing to you now, if at all, by ouija board. The driver's brake lights never even came on. He was trying to run me over. There is no way he cannot have seen me: I'm a large silhouette against the low sun, and I have strong dynamo lights plus flashing lights front and rear of my bike, all of them permanently on day and night. If I see his truck, I'll turn it into an insurance write-off. If I see him, I'll make a citizen's arrest and hope he tries to resist. *** Though I've had idiots swing their cars dangerously close to me to shout, "Get off the road," and though there are plenty of idiots who cut me off at corners (once, because I make a point of humiliating them when I catch them at the next stop), this is the first time in almost twenty years as a cyclist that someone has deliberately tried to kill me. Generally -- though in part because I don't commute and can choose where I ride with due attention to my safety -- I agree with Frank Krygowski that the roads are less dangerous for cyclists than commonly thought; it is probably the only thing on which Franki Shavelegs and I agree without reservation. But this afternoon's experience was an eye opener. It isn't that I'm shaken -- as a young man I participated in several bloodsports where the expectation *in each* was one in three of not surviving through seven years of participation, and was involved in the kinds of politics and guerilla activities that give insurance companies nightmares, so the thought of dying is one I came to terms with long, long since, nor is it a novel idea to me that someone or even many people want me dead. But it is somewhere between bothersome and shocking that some total stranger should dislike cyclists so much as to want to murder me merely because I happen to the one he sees on a lonely lane. Of course, he might turn out to be some insanely jealous hushand whose wife once kissed me in public. (Women, some that I hardly know, spontaneously kiss me. It is in the pheromones.) In a way, it would be preferable if he tried to run me over for some cause, even if only in his mind, rather than as a representative cyclist. *** Maybe I can stop motorists seeing me as a representative cyclist. I could have the back of my jacket silkscreened: NOT YOUR COMMON OR GARDEN REPRESENTATIVE CYCLIST. LOTS OF OTHER CYCLISTS HATE ME. RUN OVER A ROADIE INSTEAD. Andre Jute Get a bicycle. You will not regret it. If you live -- Mark Twain |
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Who's afraid of the big bad wolf? A lovely day to die - A Juteanapocalypse
On 24 Oct, 18:57, Andre Jute wrote:
Such a lovely day here today, you could be forgiven for thinking it were August rather than late October. On the narrowest of the lanes we ride I turned back to make a field call and met a guy in pickup truck barrelling the other way. He didn't even slow for me, and gave not an inch, his truck filling the lane. I dropped off the sharp edge of the *blacktop six inches or so into slippery mud and was thrown, as one always is in these situations, towards the road; the reflex correction on these occasions is always the wrong one. In this instance I was turned perpendicular to the road and back onto the road by my momentum, and became a sitting duck for a broadside that would have thrown me clear across the next corner. I did the only thing left to me and shot at right angles across the narrow lane and off into the ditch and the hedge on the other side, clearing the front of the truck by inches. If I'd been in any other gear I would be writing to you now, if at all, by ouija board. The driver's brake lights never even came on. He was trying to run me over. There is no way he cannot have seen me: I'm a large silhouette against the low sun, and I have strong dynamo lights plus flashing lights front and rear of my bike, all of them permanently on day and night. If I see his truck, I'll turn it into an insurance write-off. If I see him, I'll make a citizen's arrest and hope he tries to resist. *** Though I've had idiots swing their cars dangerously close to me to shout, "Get off the road," and though there are plenty of idiots who cut me off at corners (once, because I make a point of humiliating them when I catch them at the next stop), this is the first time in almost twenty years as a cyclist that someone has deliberately tried to kill me. Generally -- though in part because I don't commute and can choose where I ride with due attention to my safety -- I agree with Frank Krygowski that the roads are less dangerous for cyclists than commonly thought; it is probably the only thing on which Franki Shavelegs and I agree without reservation. But this afternoon's experience was an eye opener. It isn't that I'm shaken -- as a young man I participated in several bloodsports where the expectation *in each* was one in three of not surviving through seven years of participation, and was involved in the kinds of politics and guerilla activities that give insurance companies nightmares, so the thought of dying is one I came to terms with long, long since, nor is it a novel idea to me that someone or even many people want me dead. But it is somewhere between bothersome and shocking that some total stranger should dislike cyclists so much as to want to murder me merely because I happen to the one he sees on a lonely lane. Of course, he might turn out to be some insanely jealous hushand whose wife once kissed me in public. (Women, some that I hardly know, spontaneously kiss me. It is in the pheromones.) In a way, it would be preferable if he tried to run me over for some cause, even if only in his mind, rather than as a representative cyclist. *** Maybe I can stop motorists seeing me as a representative cyclist. I could have the back of my jacket silkscreened: NOT YOUR COMMON OR GARDEN REPRESENTATIVE CYCLIST. LOTS OF OTHER CYCLISTS HATE ME. RUN OVER A ROADIE INSTEAD. Andre Jute *Get a bicycle. You will not regret it. If you live -- Mark Twain I somehow just knew it would all come to a bad end. Such a promising story, spoilt by its presentation. |
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A lovely day to die
Why, Greg, very Christian of you to send a sympathetic reply. But I'm
such a calm person, I didn't even mention the event to my riding companion, who took up our conversation about putting when I caught up where she was waiting for me at the crossroads. I just wrote it up because it is so rare for me to agree with Krygo on anything, I thought it was noteworthy. By the time your not arrived, I'd almost forgotten about it; I was working away happily, lost in the world of the characters in a novel. I must say though, my lanes appear a lot safer than your roads, from your account. I'm in fact far more likely to have an incident with a motorist in the town at slow speed than in the lanes; today was noteworthy precisely for being such a glaring exception. But a fellow I know in the actuarial department of a life insurer says most people who have accidents have them within five miles of home... Andre Jute Down with the spoilsport Telemachus! On Oct 25, 1:47*am, wrote: Wow Andre, I read your posts, and I know everyone else does as well but where are the sympathetic replies. It's been 5 hours and nobody responded. Wow, at least I care enough to write some reply. But I will tell you, a couple things that got me turned around about how I feel about drivers, when I am out on my bike. I frequently ride at night, even in this soon to be wintery chill here in the bay area, I still get out for a night ride. I'm 51 now, and over the years a couple things have happened, that made me think about me or them. I used to always feel like they were out to get me-whoever it was. One night I was riding on elcamino real in san carlos, that is like 6 miles from home and I was riding to redwood city. Its like 9:30 pm and I am riding pretty quick like 20 mph, and a door opens from a car, and I was able to dodge out of the way, and I yelled at the guy -"you missed me," the guy replies- "I'm glad I did". From that night on I realized that that guy would never willingly hurt anyone, and something clicked in my mind. I now realized that I was wrong to think that everyone in a car was out to get me. I used to run full blast through red lights. Red lights are different than a stop sign. But anyway, I learned to be more careful out there, and slow down a bit and take in the scenery. Then I was out one night and riding through Hillsborough, and I had been out about a half hour, and heading for home, yet still like 5 miles away from home and I was riding on a bit of a downhill grade, and I see headlights coming near, and right in frount of me and like without even slowing down this lady makes a u-turn in front of me. She must not have even noticed me there coming headOn. This was a time that I used to ride by starlight. There are no (or very few) streetlights in hillsborough. She would have ran me over if I didn't react, but I was ****ed to say the least. By the time she completed the uturn in front of me, I was along side of here screaming - stupid bitch and she still did not even know I was there. Well anyway. There was another time I was riding at night and I am like 3 blocks away from home. I am riding on Alameda de las Pulgas, southbound near the Carry School and there is a small hump in the road, yet steep, so I am riding up and over the hill and a car makes a u-turn, and follows me alongside up the hill -tires screaching. And I see a gun poke out of the window, and I knew right there, I think it's over, and there was a pop. But it turned out to be only a pelet gun, and I only got nicked in the ass, the two guys were just out for trouble that night. I called the cops that time, and I went out looking for them in my van. They asked me, "did you get the license plate," I said, "it happened so fast and it was dark I couldn't see it." Nothin ever happened. Then there was this time I was riding in the day and this young guy with his girl were playing run the cyclist off the road with their mercedes. We came to a stop together and the car pulls ahead but then the car is only going like 15mph, what kind of person drives like 15mph, and they are angling there car to squeez me into parked cars with their necks turned at me and laughing. I got the plate and memorized it. I knew a place in hillsborough that has a pay phone and dialed 911, and 2 cops show up like 20 minutes later. I tell them my story and they say they are going to his fathers house and tell his father what his son is doing with his car. What else - well after all the riding, and everything, and the enjoyment of it all I still want to ride bike. There is a lot of weird people out there, but for the most part, mostly good people out there. If I could meet up with these people, well I can say that - as long as nothing happened and they were just messing with me, I forgive it all. Anyway all this stuff has happened years ago. I think Andre, that you'll get over it. Now I can recall that, seems like every time that I crashed, and being that it was nobody's fault but my own, a motorist has helped me. I fractured my skull, and was unconscious, and a person helped call police. I fell flat on my face and broke my teeth and a motorist saw it in their rear view mirror, and turned around and gave me a ride home. I crashed and broke my clavicle, and punctured my lung, and someone driving behind me stopped and made me take a ride - I seriously didn't know how bad I was hurt. I was telling the guy I was ok, and then I thought about it for a second, and said yes, I take the ride home. I was like 20 miles from home. Broken clavicle, punctured lung, handelbars turned sideways- what was I thinkin that I could make it home ok on my own. Well I still want to ride my bike. I think Andre you still want to ride as well. This isn't really bike.tech stuff, but I know you post alot - so I responded to you. Greg "Andre Jute" wrote in message ... Such a lovely day here today, you could be forgiven for thinking it were August rather than late October. On the narrowest of the lanes we ride I turned back to make a field call and met a guy in pickup truck barrelling the other way. He didn't even slow for me, and gave not an inch, his truck filling the lane. I dropped off the sharp edge of the *blacktop six inches or so into slippery mud and was thrown, as one always is in these situations, towards the road; the reflex correction on these occasions is always the wrong one. In this instance I was turned perpendicular to the road and back onto the road by my momentum, and became a sitting duck for a broadside that would have thrown me clear across the next corner. I did the only thing left to me and shot at right angles across the narrow lane and off into the ditch and the hedge on the other side, clearing the front of the truck by inches. If I'd been in any other gear I would be writing to you now, if at all, by ouija board. The driver's brake lights never even came on. He was trying to run me over. There is no way he cannot have seen me: I'm a large silhouette against the low sun, and I have strong dynamo lights plus flashing lights front and rear of my bike, all of them permanently on day and night. If I see his truck, I'll turn it into an insurance write-off. If I see him, I'll make a citizen's arrest and hope he tries to resist. *** Though I've had idiots swing their cars dangerously close to me to shout, "Get off the road," and though there are plenty of idiots who cut me off at corners (once, because I make a point of humiliating them when I catch them at the next stop), this is the first time in almost twenty years as a cyclist that someone has deliberately tried to kill me. Generally -- though in part because I don't commute and can choose where I ride with due attention to my safety -- I agree with Frank Krygowski that the roads are less dangerous for cyclists than commonly thought; it is probably the only thing on which Franki Shavelegs and I agree without reservation. But this afternoon's experience was an eye opener. It isn't that I'm shaken -- as a young man I participated in several bloodsports where the expectation *in each* was one in three of not surviving through seven years of participation, and was involved in the kinds of politics and guerilla activities that give insurance companies nightmares, so the thought of dying is one I came to terms with long, long since, nor is it a novel idea to me that someone or even many people want me dead. But it is somewhere between bothersome and shocking that some total stranger should dislike cyclists so much as to want to murder me merely because I happen to the one he sees on a lonely lane. Of course, he might turn out to be some insanely jealous hushand whose wife once kissed me in public. (Women, some that I hardly know, spontaneously kiss me. It is in the pheromones.) In a way, it would be preferable if he tried to run me over for some cause, even if only in his mind, rather than as a representative cyclist. *** Maybe I can stop motorists seeing me as a representative cyclist. I could have the back of my jacket silkscreened: NOT YOUR COMMON OR GARDEN REPRESENTATIVE CYCLIST. LOTS OF OTHER CYCLISTS HATE ME. RUN OVER A ROADIE INSTEAD. Andre Jute Get a bicycle. You will not regret it. If you live -- Mark Twain |
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A lovely day to die
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wrote: I read your posts, and I know everyone else does as well but where are the sympathetic replies. Andre is a habitual liar in this newsgroup and I don't believe his post for a minute. |
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wrote in message ... Wow Andre, I read your posts, and I know everyone else does as well but where pastorgregory, Don't know if you were being sarcastic or serious, but NOT everyone else reads Andre's posts. Kerry remainder of original post snipped |
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A lovely day to die
Andre Jute wrote:
Such a lovely day here today, you could be forgiven for thinking it were August rather than late October. On the narrowest of the lanes we ride I turned back to make a field call and met a guy in pickup truck barrelling the other way. He didn't even slow for me, and gave not an inch, his truck filling the lane. I dropped off the sharp edge of the blacktop six inches or so into slippery mud and was thrown, as one always is in these situations, towards the road; the reflex correction on these occasions is always the wrong one. In this instance I was turned perpendicular to the road and back onto the road by my momentum, and became a sitting duck for a broadside that would have thrown me clear across the next corner. I did the only thing left to me and shot at right angles across the narrow lane and off into the ditch and the hedge on the other side, clearing the front of the truck by inches. If I'd been in any other gear I would be writing to you now, if at all, by ouija board. Did you get the license plate? In the past I've call the rozzers over this sort of thing, and while the response is a bit mixed, it can sometimes be that extra bit of information they are looking for. Still, all's well. Did I tell you about the time I went under a bus? Thought my day had come early that time. |
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A lovely day to die
On 2009-10-24, Andre Jute wrote:
Such a lovely day here today, you could be forgiven for thinking it were August rather than late October. Sorry to hear about the truck, and it seems churlish to turn this into a grammar quibble, but do you really mean, "you could be forgiven for thinking it _were_ August"? Perhaps "was", since there is never any question of forgiveness for thinking in the subjunctive, at least not based on the _actual_ weather. On the narrowest of the lanes we ride I turned back to make a field call and met a guy in pickup truck barrelling the other way. He didn't even slow for me, and gave not an inch, his truck filling the lane. I dropped off the sharp edge of the blacktop six inches or so into slippery mud and was thrown, as one always is in these situations, towards the road; the reflex correction on these occasions is always the wrong one. In this instance I was turned perpendicular to the road and back onto the road by my momentum, and became a sitting duck for a broadside that would have thrown me clear across the next corner. I did the only thing left to me and shot at right angles across the narrow lane and off into the ditch and the hedge on the other side, clearing the front of the truck by inches. If I'd been in any other gear I would be writing to you now, if at all, by ouija board. The driver's brake lights never even came on. He was trying to run me over. There is no way he cannot have seen me: But here surely "there is no way he _could_ not have seen me?", because this time it is a counterfactual. I'm a large silhouette against the low sun, and I have strong dynamo lights plus flashing lights front and rear of my bike, all of them permanently on day and night. He might have been tuning the radio, composing a text message, or trying to find the bit of cornish pasty he dropped on the floor. If I see his truck, I'll turn it into an insurance write-off. If I see him, I'll make a citizen's arrest and hope he tries to resist. *** Though I've had idiots swing their cars dangerously close to me to shout, "Get off the road," and though there are plenty of idiots who cut me off at corners (once, because I make a point of humiliating them when I catch them at the next stop), this is the first time in almost twenty years as a cyclist that someone has deliberately tried to kill me. Generally -- though in part because I don't commute and can choose where I ride with due attention to my safety -- I agree with Frank Krygowski that the roads are less dangerous for cyclists than commonly thought; it is probably the only thing on which Franki Shavelegs and I agree without reservation. But this afternoon's experience was an eye opener. It isn't that I'm shaken -- as a young man I participated in several bloodsports where the expectation *in each* was one in three of not surviving through seven years of participation, and was involved in the kinds of politics and guerilla activities that give insurance companies nightmares, so the thought of dying is one I came to terms with long, long since, nor is it a novel idea to me that someone or even many people want me dead. But it is somewhere between bothersome and shocking that some total stranger should dislike cyclists so much as to want to murder me merely because I happen to the one he sees on a lonely lane. Of course, he might turn out to be some insanely jealous hushand whose wife once kissed me in public. Or one of your "fans" from usenet perhaps (Women, some that I hardly know, spontaneously kiss me. It is in the pheromones.) Right, that must be a real problem. |
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Run down by a bus A lovely day to die - A jutean apocalypse
On 25 Oct, 08:15, Tosspot wrote:
Still, all's well. *Did I tell you about the time I went under a bus? *Thought my day had come early that time. A 'bus'? You were lucky. Back when I were a lad, I was run down by a coal waggon. Bloody great black thing it were, mother took all week to get the coal dust out of my shirt. |
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A lovely day to die
Actually you are dead wrong in thinking that you are easy to see against
the sun - lights or not. I had a very similar incident but in my case I was hit and hit hard. I ended up being propelled perhaps 15 m off the rodeside and onto the verge. The truck driver, hearing the impact, stopped and lent assistance including a ride to a hospital. He could not see me against the (then) rising sun because the sun blinded him. In my case, he ran off the road to hit me but the point is that I was utterly invisible to him. You are NOT a silhouette against the sun. You aren't visible if the sun is directly in the driver's eyes. I am no forgiving his actions. I'm instead saying that you are mistaken about your visiblity. |
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