safety in numbers? Fail

"A PENSIONER was last night being treated for serious head injuries she
suffered in a collision with a motorbike.

The female cyclist was taken to the Unviersity Hospital of North
Staffordshire by air ambulance following the smash on the A54 in Somerford,
Congleton, at 11.25am yesterday.

The 73-year-old woman was in a group of cyclists which was exiting from Moss
Lane on to the A54, travelling towards Congleton."



So they were turning right from a side road without ascertaining that the
road was clear, probably relying on force of numbers to try and coerce
people into giving way to them. Give way lines and signs need to be obeyed
by all classes of road user. Visibility is good in both directions.



My thoughts are with the motorcyclist.


http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk...ail/story.html

On May 26, 1:47*pm, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
"A PENSIONER was last night being treated for serious head injuries she
suffered in a collision with a motorbike.

The female cyclist was taken to the Unviersity Hospital of North
Staffordshire by air ambulance following the smash on the A54 in Somerford,
Congleton, at 11.25am yesterday.

The 73-year-old woman was in a group of cyclists which was exiting from Moss
Lane on to the A54, travelling towards Congleton."

So they were turning right from a side road without ascertaining that the
road was clear, probably relying on force of numbers to try and coerce
people into giving way to them. *Give way lines and signs need to be obeyed
by all classes of road user. *Visibility is good in both directions.

My thoughts are with the motorcyclist.

http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk...ed-hospital-bi...

For your increased sensitivity and heightened pleasure, why not cross-
post this to UKRM?

On 26/05/2012 14:04, Squashme wrote:

On May 26, 1:47 pm, wrote:

"A PENSIONER was last night being treated for serious head injuries she
suffered in a collision with a motorbike.
The female cyclist was taken to the Unviersity Hospital of North
Staffordshire by air ambulance following the smash on the A54 in Somerford,
Congleton, at 11.25am yesterday.
The 73-year-old woman was in a group of cyclists which was exiting from Moss
Lane on to the A54, travelling towards Congleton."

So they were turning right from a side road without ascertaining that the
road was clear, probably relying on force of numbers to try and coerce
people into giving way to them. Give way lines and signs need to be obeyed
by all classes of road user. Visibility is good in both directions.

My thoughts are with the motorcyclist.

http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk...ed-hospital-bi...

For your increased sensitivity and heightened pleasure, why not cross-
post this to UKRM?

Would you take the same attitude in a case where a motorcyclist failed to
give way at a junction, turned right and hit and injured a cyclist proceeding
with priority along the main road?

Just asking...

On May 26, 2:11*pm, JNugent wrote:
On 26/05/2012 14:04, Squashme wrote:









On May 26, 1:47 pm, *wrote:
"A PENSIONER was last night being treated for serious head injuries she
suffered in a collision with a motorbike.
The female cyclist was taken to the Unviersity Hospital of North
Staffordshire by air ambulance following the smash on the A54 in Somerford,
Congleton, at 11.25am yesterday.
The 73-year-old woman was in a group of cyclists which was exiting from Moss
Lane on to the A54, travelling towards Congleton."
So they were turning right from a side road without ascertaining that the
road was clear, probably relying on force of numbers to try and coerce
people into giving way to them. *Give way lines and signs need to be obeyed
by all classes of road user. *Visibility is good in both directions.
My thoughts are with the motorcyclist.
http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk...ed-hospital-bi....
For your increased sensitivity and heightened pleasure, why not cross-
post this to UKRM?

Would you take the same attitude in a case where a motorcyclist failed to
give way at a junction, turned right and hit and injured a cyclist proceeding
with priority along the main road?

Just asking...

Which attitude would that be? Your ability to read minds is just awe-
inspiring.

On 26/05/2012 15:39, Squashme wrote:
On May 26, 2:11 pm, wrote:
On 26/05/2012 14:04, Squashme wrote:









On May 26, 1:47 pm, wrote:
"A PENSIONER was last night being treated for serious head injuries she
suffered in a collision with a motorbike.
The female cyclist was taken to the Unviersity Hospital of North
Staffordshire by air ambulance following the smash on the A54 in Somerford,
Congleton, at 11.25am yesterday.
The 73-year-old woman was in a group of cyclists which was exiting from Moss
Lane on to the A54, travelling towards Congleton."
So they were turning right from a side road without ascertaining that the
road was clear, probably relying on force of numbers to try and coerce
people into giving way to them. Give way lines and signs need to be obeyed
by all classes of road user. Visibility is good in both directions.
My thoughts are with the motorcyclist.
http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk...ed-hospital-bi...

For your increased sensitivity and heightened pleasure, why not cross-
post this to UKRM?

Would you take the same attitude in a case where a motorcyclist failed to
give way at a junction, turned right and hit and injured a cyclist proceeding
with priority along the main road?

Just asking...

Which attitude would that be?

The attitude referred to was the one you displayed in your previous response,
of course.

Whatever it might be (and I make no attempt to describe it), would it be the
same in the alternative scenario, or is it conditioned by the transport mode?

Your ability to read minds is just awe-inspiring.

There is no need for such ability. You made your position clear.

On May 26, 4:01*pm, JNugent wrote:
On 26/05/2012 15:39, Squashme wrote:









On May 26, 2:11 pm, *wrote:
On 26/05/2012 14:04, Squashme wrote:

On May 26, 1:47 pm, * *wrote:
"A PENSIONER was last night being treated for serious head injuries she
suffered in a collision with a motorbike.
The female cyclist was taken to the Unviersity Hospital of North
Staffordshire by air ambulance following the smash on the A54 in Somerford,
Congleton, at 11.25am yesterday.
The 73-year-old woman was in a group of cyclists which was exiting from Moss
Lane on to the A54, travelling towards Congleton."
So they were turning right from a side road without ascertaining that the
road was clear, probably relying on force of numbers to try and coerce
people into giving way to them. *Give way lines and signs need to be obeyed
by all classes of road user. *Visibility is good in both directions.
My thoughts are with the motorcyclist.
http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk...ed-hospital-bi....
For your increased sensitivity and heightened pleasure, why not cross-
post this to UKRM?
Would you take the same attitude in a case where a motorcyclist failed to
give way at a junction, turned right and hit and injured a cyclist proceeding
with priority along the main road?
Just asking...
Which attitude would that be?

The attitude referred to was the one you displayed in your previous response,
of course.

In "For your increased sensitivity and heightened pleasure, why not
cross-
post this to UKRM? "?


Whatever it might be (and I make no attempt to describe it), would it be the
same in the alternative scenario, or is it conditioned by the transport mode?

If Mrcheerful posted similar repetitive, coat-trailing material
designed to wind up motorists or motorcyclists, I should certainly
still think him a ******. Although it might take me longer to tire of
it.


Your ability to read minds is just awe-inspiring.

There is no need for such ability. You made your position clear.

OK. Do I blame the elderly woman cyclist, the group of cyclists, the
middle-aged motorcyclist, the road designers, or God? I need to know
what my position is.

On 26/05/2012 16:50, Squashme wrote:

On May 26, 4:01 pm, wrote:
On 26/05/2012 15:39, Squashme wrote:
On May 26, 2:11 pm, wrote:
On 26/05/2012 14:04, Squashme wrote:
On May 26, 1:47 pm, wrote:

"A PENSIONER was last night being treated for serious head injuries she
suffered in a collision with a motorbike.
The female cyclist was taken to the Unviersity Hospital of North
Staffordshire by air ambulance following the smash on the A54 in Somerford,
Congleton, at 11.25am yesterday.
The 73-year-old woman was in a group of cyclists which was exiting from Moss
Lane on to the A54, travelling towards Congleton."
So they were turning right from a side road without ascertaining that the
road was clear, probably relying on force of numbers to try and coerce
people into giving way to them. Give way lines and signs need to be obeyed
by all classes of road user. Visibility is good in both directions.
My thoughts are with the motorcyclist.
http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk...ed-hospital-bi...

For your increased sensitivity and heightened pleasure, why not cross-
post this to UKRM?

Would you take the same attitude in a case where a motorcyclist failed to
give way at a junction, turned right and hit and injured a cyclist proceeding
with priority along the main road?
Just asking...

Which attitude would that be?

The attitude referred to was the one you displayed in your previous response,
of course.

In "For your increased sensitivity and heightened pleasure, why not
cross-post this to UKRM? "?

Yes. What else?

Whatever it might be (and I make no attempt to describe it), would it be the
same in the alternative scenario, or is it conditioned by the transport mode?

If Mrcheerful posted similar repetitive, coat-trailing material
designed to wind up motorists or motorcyclists, I should certainly
still think him a ******. Although it might take me longer to tire of
it.

Your ability to read minds is just awe-inspiring.

There is no need for such ability. You made your position clear.

OK. Do I blame the elderly woman cyclist, the group of cyclists, the
middle-aged motorcyclist, the road designers, or God? I need to know
what my position is.

Let's make it easier.

If you were reading ukrm, and if there were a story there about a
motorcyclist who had failed to give way at a junction, turned right and hit
and injured a cyclist proceeding with priority along the main road, would you
sarcastically advise a cyclist (posting equally sarcastically) to x-post his
remarks to ukrc?

On Sat, 26 May 2012 13:47:06 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:

"A PENSIONER was last night being treated for serious head injuries she
suffered in a collision with a motorbike.

The female cyclist was taken to the Unviersity Hospital of North
Staffordshire by air ambulance following the smash on the A54 in Somerford,
Congleton, at 11.25am yesterday.

The 73-year-old woman was in a group of cyclists which was exiting from Moss
Lane on to the A54, travelling towards Congleton."



So they were turning right from a side road without ascertaining that the
road was clear, probably relying on force of numbers to try and coerce
people into giving way to them. Give way lines and signs need to be obeyed
by all classes of road user. Visibility is good in both directions.



My thoughts are with the motorcyclist.


http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk...ail/story.html



I see someone has added a very sensible comment:

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by NumbNuts2012

Saturday, May 26 2012, 11:28PM

Old dears of this age should not be cycling on busy main roads. Cycling on such
roads is dangerous enough for the young and fit - hardly safe for elderly
people.

Simon Mason

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On May 26, 1:47*pm, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
"A PENSIONER was last night being treated for serious head injuries she
suffered in a collision with a motorbike.

The female cyclist was taken to the Unviersity Hospital of North
Staffordshire by air ambulance following the smash on the A54 in Somerford,
Congleton, at 11.25am yesterday.

The 73-year-old woman was in a group of cyclists which was exiting from Moss
Lane on to the A54, travelling towards Congleton."

So they were turning right from a side road without ascertaining that the
road was clear, probably relying on force of numbers to try and coerce
people into giving way to them. *Give way lines and signs need to be obeyed
by all classes of road user. *Visibility is good in both directions.

My thoughts are with the motorcyclist.

http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk...ed-hospital-bi...

Anybody know this road? Not much detail, but if visibility is good in
both directions, does any blame attach to the motorcyclist?

On 27/05/12 19:30, Squashme escribió:

http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk...ed-hospital-bi...

Anybody know this road? Not much detail, but if visibility is good in
both directions, does any blame attach to the motorcyclist?

Dunno, the url is broken.

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