How to **** Off an Arrogant Pedalcyclist

In article , Scott en Aztlán wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 22:48:31 -0500,
(Brent P) wrote:

In article , Scott en Aztlán wrote:

Where should I send my pictures of crumbling bike paths?

I hosted mine at tinypic.com:

http://tinypic.com/5lowtu
http://tinypic.com/5lox2d


You call that crumbling?

Does the word "sarcasm" mean anything to you?

I figured it was CA thing... like those car shows where they see some
really light rust and say the car is in bad shape.....

In article , Jim Yanik wrote:
(Brent P) wrote in
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In article , C. E. White wrote:

But the "use" tax (sales tax) on bicycles goes into the
general fund. This fund is not used to pay for roads.

Even if true, irelevant to the semantic arguement. There is no use tax
for any vehicles in IL besides what is paid when they are purchased.




Yes,it's your *yearly* lic.plate fee.

It's not a use tax.

In article , Jim Yanik wrote:
(Brent P) wrote in
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In article , Jim Yanik
wrote:

Any "use" tax would be paid yearly,as a plate fee.
Prop taxes are not "use fees" WRT bicycle use on public roads.

There are no yearly "use" taxes for any private vehicle in IL.
(commerical vehicles may be different) But I don't pay a yearly "use"
tax on any of mine.


You pay every year to RENEW your plates. That's the yearly usage fee.
It's not really renewing your *registration*,that stays constant,until they
issue you a new plate number.

It's not called a usage fee. And that's what your arguement is, one about
labels.

In article , Jim Yanik wrote:

It's not a user fee in IL.

Yes,it is.
Surely you don't believe they just need to re-register your auto with the
SAME plate number every year?

You are the one ****ed off that there is no specifically labeled 'bicycle
usage tax'. There is no specifically labeled 'automobile usage tax'
either.

Bicyclists just want the use without paying.

Bicyclists pay.

No,they don't.
Not specifically for their bicycles as with autos,motorcycles,Vespas.

Your arguement is then one of labeling. Yet you have to redefine the
lables on motor vehicle taxes to suit your arguement. I could just as
easily redefine the label on any number of taxes I pay.

You want to make a semantic ticky tacky arguement to
make appear they don't pay. Under the same exacting semantics, motor
vehicle owners don't pay such fees either.

I've already shown that you're wrong.

There are no specifically labeled 'use' taxes for any vehicle in the
state I live outside those paid regarding the purchase of said vehicle.

You really need to make sure you're on solid ground before making those
kind of semantic arguements. Fact remains, your beef is simply with
labeling.

I'll redefine 'cook county TB sanitiarium district' to 'bicycle road usage
tax'. There, now everyone in the county pays to use a bicycle on the
roads if they want, just like they pay for the schools even if they
don't have kids.

That's essentially what your arguement boils down to. You redefine
another tax as a 'usage fee' and then complain bicyclists aren't paying
it.

(Brent P) writes:

In article , Scott en Aztlán wrote:

Where should I send my pictures of crumbling bike paths?

I hosted mine at tinypic.com:

http://tinypic.com/5lowtu
http://tinypic.com/5lox2d


You call that crumbling? BAH! I should show you the path in some
northern cook county forest preserve... although it's been years since I
rode there.

You should see the bike path on the chicago lake front where it is actually
part of the breakwater/concrete shoreline in early spring. Now that's
crumbling. The lake really pounds it in the winter.

Heh. You are talking about right he

http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=41.90...8615&t=k&hl=en

http://tinyurl.com/dt9kh

aren't you?

Jim Yanik wrote:

Even if you never drove a car on state highways,you still would have to pay
your yearly user fees(lic.plate renewal) for use of local public roads.

It's not a "use tax".

It's a "registration fee."

And in WA, at $30/year, it's barely enough to cover the costs of
administering it and issuing plates.

I pay sales and property taxes, and one of the benefits I get from that
is that I pay for roads useable for, and legal for, my bicycle use.

Tough **** for you, Jim. Are you gonna cry?

E.P.

(Brent P) wrote in
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In article , Jim Yanik
wrote:
(Brent P) wrote in
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In article , Jim Yanik
wrote:

Any "use" tax would be paid yearly,as a plate fee.
Prop taxes are not "use fees" WRT bicycle use on public roads.

There are no yearly "use" taxes for any private vehicle in IL.
(commerical vehicles may be different) But I don't pay a yearly
"use" tax on any of mine.


You pay every year to RENEW your plates. That's the yearly usage fee.
It's not really renewing your *registration*,that stays
constant,until they issue you a new plate number.

It's not called a usage fee. And that's what your arguement is, one
about labels.




Wrong again.
Too bad you will not admit you're wrong.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

(Brent P) wrote in
:

In article , Jim Yanik
wrote:
(Brent P) wrote in
:

In article , C. E. White wrote:

But the "use" tax (sales tax) on bicycles goes into the
general fund. This fund is not used to pay for roads.

Even if true, irelevant to the semantic arguement. There is no use
tax for any vehicles in IL besides what is paid when they are
purchased.




Yes,it's your *yearly* lic.plate fee.

It's not a use tax.




Yes,it is,you just won't admit you're wrong.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

In article , Jim Smith wrote:

You should see the bike path on the chicago lake front where it is actually
part of the breakwater/concrete shoreline in early spring. Now that's
crumbling. The lake really pounds it in the winter.

Heh. You are talking about right he
http://tinyurl.com/dt9kh
aren't you?

Yeah, that looks like the stretch that gets tore up pretty bad.

From the beach at the bottom of the picture to the curve just before the
beach in the middle of the pic.

In article , Jim Yanik wrote:

Yes,it's your *yearly* lic.plate fee.

It's not a use tax.




Yes,it is,you just won't admit you're wrong.

Only in your mind. I'll just make the cook county TB tax the bicycle
usage tax in mind. Just as valid.