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It couldn't have started any worse...
I met my barrister for the first time at 10.15, and her very first question was, "were you wearing a helmet?" I tried explaining that a helmet wouldn't have protected my shoulder in any way, but she wasn't having any of it. "You should always wear a helmet, it will protect you." I knew my case was lost there and then. I was at fault for a driver running into me before the case had even begun! There was worse. The judge, once we went into court, said, "I don't cycle and you will never ever see me on a bike." My claim was that I passed a line of slow moving traffic of the right, up to 1.5m across the centre line, on the right of the road. There was no oncoming traffic, and cycling in that position gave me the very best possible view of the road ahead and gave motorists the very best possible chance to see me. The lorry pulled suddenly to the right to reach a parking bay on the right, without looking or indicating, and struck me. I had no chance to take evasive action. My witness said something similar. The contention of the defence was that I followed the lorry down the road, immediately behind its rear doors, and when it stopped and indicated right, I pulled out to the right and tried to overtake the truck, with disasterous consequences. That was the only possible explaination for the driver checking his mirrors twice and not seeing me. I should have been on the left, and if I was going to overtake should have hugged the kerb and overtaken on the inside. To further back up his claim that I was not visible, the defendent recalled that an oncoming vehicle flashed him to say, 'the road is clear, I will wait while you turn.' All this took 3 hours - yes, three hours... We had a 15 minute recess. After the recess the judge reiterated his previous comment: "I don't cycle and you will never ever see me on a bike." He went on... "I can fully understand why a prudent and skilled cyclist would cycle on the right of slow moving or stationary traffic." He went on to recount my evidence of why I overtook on the left, car doors, left turning vehicles, better visibility, etc., etc., etc. "That is not to say that the defendent is lying, but as he clearly didn't see the claimant, he is in no position to come to the conclusion that the claimant was immediately behind him." "The claimant is very clear that the driver was not indicating when he started his overtaking manoeurve, the defendent says that he started indicating immediately after looking in his mirror for the first time. However, the defendent didn't see the claimant so cannot say where the claimant was at the time he started to signal. I am therefore minded to take the claimant's version of events. I can see no reason why an experienced cyclist, as the claimant certainly is, would start to overtake a vehicle that was indicating right, and the claimant would most certainly have had an excellent view of the defendent's indicators if, as the defendent caims, he was immediately behind his vehicle." "The defendent says that he was in the middle of the road, signalling right, for some 30 seconds, before making his turn, and that he made his turn after checking in his mirrors for a second time. ( I do not accept the claimant's counsel's claim that the driver should have looked over his shoulder, the defendent's mirrors should have sufficed.) I cannot believe that the defendent was stationary in the middle of the road for as long as 30 seconds, and this contradicts his earlier statement to the police which describes one continuous manoeuvre, and makes no mention of a wait in the middle of the road. I also do not believe that the defendent's vehicle was to the right of the centre line. The witness clearly describes the van being to the left of the centre line as does the claimant." "Mr Crispin's evidence has been clear and he has also made it absolutely clear when he is making assuptions, for example, Mr Crispin said 'when I started to overtake the vehicle wasn't signalling, and I don't think that it was signalling when it hit me.' [The defense counsel had made much of that fact that I was vague about certain points.] Likewise the defendent has also given clear evidence, but he has stated with ablosute certainty things that he cannot know. For example, he stated that the claimant was immediately behind him prior to the collision. He cannot have known that as he hadn't seen the cyclist." "I find entirely in favour of the claimant. I believe compensation has been agreed. Is that correct?" No further mention was made of magic helmets. ==========TROLL J BAIT========== I expect some mission poster will pop up and make meaningless claims about helmets and re-quote some crash statistics without context - and I hope they do. To contradict a neutral judge, who is clearly pro motorist, who describes me as *prudent and skilled* will beautifully highlight the absurdity of their claims. ==========END OF BAIT========== |
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Tom Crispin wrote:
"I find entirely in favour of the claimant. I believe compensation has been agreed. Is that correct?" :-) -- Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/ |
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"Tom Crispin" wrote in message
... | It couldn't have started any worse... snip | "I find entirely in favour of the claimant. I believe compensation | has been agreed. Is that correct?" Classic. Well done!. pOB |
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2008, Tom Crispin wrote:
"I find entirely in favour of the claimant. I believe compensation has been agreed. Is that correct?" GREAT VICTORY!! tom -- Osteoclasts = monsters from the DEEP -- Andrew |
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Tom Crispin wrote:
"I find entirely in favour of the claimant. I believe compensation has been agreed. Is that correct?" Well done. A victory for you, and for all of us. -- http://www.unmusic.co.uk Michael Reed -- technology, gender, and geek culture freelance writer. Visit the site to buy my article compilation book Tech Book 1 |
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Well done that busy man.
-- Peter (Prof) Fox Multitude of things for beer, cycling, Morris and curiosities at http://vulpeculox.net |
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On 13/11/2008 16:37, Tom Crispin wrote:
The judge, once we went into court, said, "I don't cycle and you will never ever see me on a bike." snip After the recess the judge reiterated his previous comment: "I don't cycle and you will never ever see me on a bike." Neatly avoiding any chance of accusations that the judge might have showed favouritism towards cyclists because he was himself a cyclist. Excellent result. -- Danny Colyer http://www.redpedals.co.uk Reply address is valid, but that on my website is checked more often "The plural of anecdote is not data" - Frank Kotsonis |
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On 2008-11-13, Tom Crispin wrote:
"I find entirely in favour of the claimant. I believe compensation has been agreed. Is that correct?" Congratulations. |
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:37:06 +0000, Tom Crispin wrote:
"I find entirely in favour of the claimant. I believe compensation has been agreed. Is that correct?" Excellent! Especially the introduction. |
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