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Spotted a very unusual Bike
In Palo Alto Ca, near the local Fry's Electronics store was a familt out biking around. Most were on what looked like convetional bikes but Dad and a young girl were on a custome job- Pops drove from the rear seat, the young kid (w/ helmets all around btw) was more in the middle of the frame with what looked like her own set of pedals, and the frame was painted yellow with two tubes running front to back with one positioned over the other vertically. Lets say you took a ladder, laid it flat on the ground, now grab one side and rotate that edge up vertical. (The rungs are now pointing up & down.) Attach bike wheels fore and aft, place a seat in the middle and only God know what type of steering leading to the seat over the back wheel. Perhaps it was a cable/pully type situation. Does this sound at all like a known, if rare, type bike? TBerk |
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Spotted a very unusual Bike
On Mar 27, 12:07*am, TBerk wrote:
In Palo Alto Ca, near the local Fry's Electronics store was a familt out biking around. Most were on what looked like convetional bikes but Dad and a young girl were on a custome job- Pops drove from the rear seat, the young kid (w/ helmets all around btw) was more in the middle of the frame with what looked like her own set of pedals, and the frame was painted yellow with two tubes running front to back with one positioned over the other vertically. *Lets say you took a ladder, laid it flat on the ground, now grab one side and rotate that edge up vertical. (The rungs are now pointing up & down.) *Attach bike wheels fore and aft, place a seat in the middle and only God know what type of steering leading to the seat over the back wheel. *Perhaps it was a cable/pully type situation. *Does this sound at all like a known, if rare, type bike? TBerk Are you describing a half-recumbent tandem? Bilenky ViewPoint is one such bicycle. http://www.bilenky.com/viewpnt.html |
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Spotted a very unusual Bike
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On Mar 27, 12:07 am, TBerk wrote: In Palo Alto Ca, near the local Fry's Electronics store was a familt out biking around. Most were on what looked like convetional bikes but Dad and a young girl were on a custome job- Pops drove from the rear seat, the young kid (w/ helmets all around btw) was more in the middle of the frame with what looked like her own set of pedals, and the frame was painted yellow with two tubes running front to back with one positioned over the other vertically. Lets say you took a ladder, laid it flat on the ground, now grab one side and rotate that edge up vertical. (The rungs are now pointing up & down.) Attach bike wheels fore and aft, place a seat in the middle and only God know what type of steering leading to the seat over the back wheel. Perhaps it was a cable/pully type situation. Does this sound at all like a known, if rare, type bike? TBerk Are you describing a half-recumbent tandem? Bilenky ViewPoint is one such bicycle. http://www.bilenky.com/viewpnt.html Or perhaps a 'Love Bike'? http://www.lovebike.com/ Greg |
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Aesthetics and good engineering *can* co-exist even in tandems and
http://www.bilenky.com/viewpnt.html Ugly and poorly engineered in that it could be both lighter and stiffer by just moving the pipe junctions to more beneficial positions, but at least designed by someone who knows a little ergonomics. And, hey, the neanderthal misogynists, who are probably the majority of cyclists, will approve of putting the woman out front to take the impact of the accident, and until then, they will say, she's in the most natural position, on her back with her knees up. This bike is clearly designed by a man who hates women, which it has in common with much women's clothing. http://www.lovebike.com/ Not only a piece of **** engineering-wise -- could it have taken ten minutes to redesign so that the pipes form much stronger triangles? -- but an ergonomic disaster that locks the stoker into any disaster the driver causes without possibility of escape; the psychological outcome will be a child put off cycling for life. And how long do you think that kid, any kid, will be able to sit with arms up so unnaturally? The long wheelbase will already make for a slow-turning, poor-handling bike, but those looooong handlebars are just about guaranteed to make it into a bike that has to be carried to wide open spaces on the back of an internal combustion engine before it can be used at all. It isn't a bicycle, intended for riding. It's a "lifestyle statement", intended for display more than use. And that's where we came in: even as a piece of engineering art it is incompetent crap. Andre Jute Visit Andre's books at http://www.audio-talk.co.uk/fiultra/THE%20WRITER'S%20HOUSE.html |
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Spotted a very unusual Bike
TBerk wrote:
In Palo Alto Ca, near the local Fry's Electronics store was a familt out biking around. Most were on what looked like convetional bikes but Dad and a young girl were on a custome job- Pops drove from the rear seat, the young kid (w/ helmets all around btw) was more in the middle of the frame with what looked like her own set of pedals, and the frame was painted yellow with two tubes running front to back with one positioned over the other vertically. Lets say you took a ladder, laid it flat on the ground, now grab one side and rotate that edge up vertical. (The rungs are now pointing up & down.) Attach bike wheels fore and aft, place a seat in the middle and only God know what type of steering leading to the seat over the back wheel. Perhaps it was a cable/pully type situation. Does this sound at all like a known, if rare, type bike? pm wrote: Are you describing a half-recumbent tandem? Bilenky ViewPoint is one such bicycle. http://www.bilenky.com/viewpnt.html Greg Evans wrote: Or perhaps a 'Love Bike'? http://www.lovebike.com/ Ow! My eyes! Gaaaahhhh! -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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Spotted a very unusual Bike
TBerk wrote:
In Palo Alto Ca, near the local Fry's Electronics store was a familt out biking around. Most were on what looked like convetional bikes but Dad and a young girl were on a custome job- Pops drove from the rear seat, the young kid (w/ helmets all around btw) was more in the middle of the frame with what looked like her own set of pedals, and the frame was painted yellow with two tubes running front to back with one positioned over the other vertically. Lets say you took a ladder, laid it flat on the ground, now grab one side and rotate that edge up vertical. (The rungs are now pointing up & down.) Attach bike wheels fore and aft, place a seat in the middle and only God know what type of steering leading to the seat over the back wheel. Perhaps it was a cable/pully type situation. Does this sound at all like a known, if rare, type bike? pm wrote: Are you describing a half-recumbent tandem? Bilenky ViewPoint is one such bicycle. http://www.bilenky.com/viewpnt.html Greg Evans wrote: Or perhaps a 'Love Bike'? http://www.lovebike.com/ Andrew Muzi wrote: Ow! My eyes! Gaaaahhhh! What? You're not feelin' the love, Andrew? -- ================================================== ======= "I'm very well acquainted with the seven deadly sins I keep a busy schedule trying to fit them in I'm proud to be a glutton and I don't have time for sloth I'm greedy and I'm angry and I don't care who I cross." (Warren Zevon, 'Mr. Bad Example') --------------------------------------------------------- My Photos- http://www.gsevans.com/photography/ My Blog- http://www.gsevans.com/blog/ |
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Aesthetics and good engineering *can* co-exist even in tandems and recumbents, was Spotted a very unusual Bike
"Andre Jute" wrote in message
... http://www.bilenky.com/viewpnt.html Ugly and poorly engineered in that it could be both lighter and stiffer by just moving the pipe junctions to more beneficial positions You're going to _so_ hate the new lightweight tandems. http://paketabike.com/index.cfm?page=tandems http://www.co-motion.com/tandem_bikes/macchiato.html |
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Spotted a very unusual Bike
AMuzi wrote:
Greg Evans wrote: Or perhaps a 'Love Bike'? http://www.lovebike.com/ Ow! My eyes! Gaaaahhhh! Doesn't really look any worse than a Chunk bike: http://dclxvi.org/chunk/meet/long/index.html Actually, now that you mention it, putting lipstick on the pig makes it look worse. What that Love Bike needs is burnt paint and some duct tape. Chalo |
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Aesthetics and good engineering *can* co-exist even in tandems
On Mar 27, 9:57*am, "Clive George" wrote:
"Andre Jute" wrote in message ... http://www.bilenky.com/viewpnt.html Ugly and poorly engineered in that it could be both lighter and stiffer by just moving the pipe junctions to more beneficial positions You're going to _so_ hate the new lightweight tandems. http://paketabike.com/index.cfm?page...macchiato.html Yeah. The professionals realize that it's out of plane bending and torsional stiffness that makes or breaks a tandem. More triangles do nothing for either, but bigger tubes do, and incidentally make the frame plenty strong in plane. |
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Spotted a very unusual Bike
On Mar 27, 11:43*am, Greg Evans wrote:
TBerk wrote: In Palo Alto Ca, near the local Fry's Electronics store was a familt out biking around. Most were on what looked like convetional bikes but Dad and a young girl were on a custome job- Pops drove from the rear seat, the young kid (w/ helmets all around btw) was more in the middle of the frame with what looked like her own set of pedals, and the frame was painted yellow with two tubes running front to back with one positioned over the other vertically. Lets say you took a ladder, laid it flat on the ground, now grab one side and rotate that edge up vertical. (The rungs are now pointing up & down.) *Attach bike wheels fore and aft, place a seat in the middle and only God know what type of steering leading to the seat over the back wheel. *Perhaps it was a cable/pully type situation. Does this sound at all like a known, if rare, type bike? pm wrote: Are you describing a half-recumbent tandem? Bilenky ViewPoint is one such bicycle. http://www.bilenky.com/viewpnt.html Greg Evans wrote: Or perhaps a 'Love Bike'? http://www.lovebike.com/ Andrew Muzi wrote: Ow! My eyes! Gaaaahhhh! What? You're not feelin' the love, Andrew? Is that the bike that gynecologists use to practice on wimmen at the Crawferd Ranch? |
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