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Old March 27th 09, 07:07 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
TBerk
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In Palo Alto Ca, near the local Fry's Electronics store was a familt
out biking around. Most were on what looked like convetional bikes but
Dad and a young girl were on a custome job-

Pops drove from the rear seat, the young kid (w/ helmets all around
btw) was more in the middle of the frame with what looked like her own
set of pedals, and the frame was painted yellow with two tubes running
front to back with one positioned over the other vertically.

Lets say you took a ladder, laid it flat on the ground, now grab one
side and rotate that edge up vertical. (The rungs are now pointing up
& down.) Attach bike wheels fore and aft, place a seat in the middle
and only God know what type of steering leading to the seat over the
back wheel. Perhaps it was a cable/pully type situation.

Does this sound at all like a known, if rare, type bike?


TBerk
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Old March 27th 09, 07:15 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default Spotted a very unusual Bike

On Mar 27, 12:07*am, TBerk wrote:
In Palo Alto Ca, near the local Fry's Electronics store was a familt
out biking around. Most were on what looked like convetional bikes but
Dad and a young girl were on a custome job-

Pops drove from the rear seat, the young kid (w/ helmets all around
btw) was more in the middle of the frame with what looked like her own
set of pedals, and the frame was painted yellow with two tubes running
front to back with one positioned over the other vertically.

*Lets say you took a ladder, laid it flat on the ground, now grab one
side and rotate that edge up vertical. (The rungs are now pointing up
& down.) *Attach bike wheels fore and aft, place a seat in the middle
and only God know what type of steering leading to the seat over the
back wheel. *Perhaps it was a cable/pully type situation.

*Does this sound at all like a known, if rare, type bike?

TBerk


Are you describing a half-recumbent tandem? Bilenky ViewPoint is one
such bicycle.

http://www.bilenky.com/viewpnt.html
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Old March 27th 09, 12:22 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Greg Evans
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Default Spotted a very unusual Bike

pm wrote:

On Mar 27, 12:07 am, TBerk wrote:
In Palo Alto Ca, near the local Fry's Electronics store was a
familt out biking around. Most were on what looked like
convetional bikes but Dad and a young girl were on a custome
job-

Pops drove from the rear seat, the young kid (w/ helmets all
around btw) was more in the middle of the frame with what
looked like her own set of pedals, and the frame was painted
yellow with two tubes running front to back with one positioned
over the other vertically.

Lets say you took a ladder, laid it flat on the ground, now
grab one side and rotate that edge up vertical. (The rungs are
now pointing up & down.) Attach bike wheels fore and aft,
place a seat in the middle and only God know what type of
steering leading to the seat over the back wheel. Perhaps it
was a cable/pully type situation.

Does this sound at all like a known, if rare, type bike?

TBerk


Are you describing a half-recumbent tandem? Bilenky ViewPoint is
one such bicycle.

http://www.bilenky.com/viewpnt.html


Or perhaps a 'Love Bike'?
http://www.lovebike.com/

Greg
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Old March 27th 09, 03:13 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Andre Jute[_2_]
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http://www.bilenky.com/viewpnt.html


Ugly and poorly engineered in that it could be both lighter and
stiffer by just moving the pipe junctions to more beneficial
positions, but at least designed by someone who knows a little
ergonomics.

And, hey, the neanderthal misogynists, who are probably the majority
of cyclists, will approve of putting the woman out front to take the
impact of the accident, and until then, they will say, she's in the
most natural position, on her back with her knees up. This bike is
clearly designed by a man who hates women, which it has in common with
much women's clothing.

http://www.lovebike.com/


Not only a piece of **** engineering-wise -- could it have taken ten
minutes to redesign so that the pipes form much stronger triangles? --
but an ergonomic disaster that locks the stoker into any disaster the
driver causes without possibility of escape; the psychological outcome
will be a child put off cycling for life. And how long do you think
that kid, any kid, will be able to sit with arms up so unnaturally?

The long wheelbase will already make for a slow-turning, poor-handling
bike, but those looooong handlebars are just about guaranteed to make
it into a bike that has to be carried to wide open spaces on the back
of an internal combustion engine before it can be used at all.

It isn't a bicycle, intended for riding. It's a "lifestyle statement",
intended for display more than use. And that's where we came in: even
as a piece of engineering art it is incompetent crap.

Andre Jute
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Old March 27th 09, 04:30 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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TBerk wrote:
In Palo Alto Ca, near the local Fry's Electronics store was a
familt out biking around. Most were on what looked like
convetional bikes but Dad and a young girl were on a custome
job-

Pops drove from the rear seat, the young kid (w/ helmets all
around btw) was more in the middle of the frame with what
looked like her own set of pedals, and the frame was painted
yellow with two tubes running front to back with one positioned
over the other vertically.

Lets say you took a ladder, laid it flat on the ground, now
grab one side and rotate that edge up vertical. (The rungs are
now pointing up & down.) Attach bike wheels fore and aft,
place a seat in the middle and only God know what type of
steering leading to the seat over the back wheel. Perhaps it
was a cable/pully type situation.
Does this sound at all like a known, if rare, type bike?


pm wrote:
Are you describing a half-recumbent tandem? Bilenky ViewPoint is
one such bicycle.
http://www.bilenky.com/viewpnt.html


Greg Evans wrote:
Or perhaps a 'Love Bike'?
http://www.lovebike.com/


Ow! My eyes! Gaaaahhhh!
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Old March 27th 09, 04:43 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default Spotted a very unusual Bike

TBerk wrote:
In Palo Alto Ca, near the local Fry's Electronics store was a
familt out biking around. Most were on what looked like
convetional bikes but Dad and a young girl were on a custome
job-

Pops drove from the rear seat, the young kid (w/ helmets all
around btw) was more in the middle of the frame with what
looked like her own set of pedals, and the frame was painted
yellow with two tubes running front to back with one positioned
over the other vertically.

Lets say you took a ladder, laid it flat on the ground, now
grab one side and rotate that edge up vertical. (The rungs are
now pointing up & down.) Attach bike wheels fore and aft,
place a seat in the middle and only God know what type of
steering leading to the seat over the back wheel. Perhaps it
was a cable/pully type situation.
Does this sound at all like a known, if rare, type bike?


pm wrote:
Are you describing a half-recumbent tandem? Bilenky ViewPoint is
one such bicycle.
http://www.bilenky.com/viewpnt.html


Greg Evans wrote:
Or perhaps a 'Love Bike'?
http://www.lovebike.com/


Andrew Muzi wrote:

Ow! My eyes! Gaaaahhhh!


What? You're not feelin' the love, Andrew?

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Old March 27th 09, 04:57 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default Aesthetics and good engineering *can* co-exist even in tandems and recumbents, was Spotted a very unusual Bike

"Andre Jute" wrote in message
...

http://www.bilenky.com/viewpnt.html


Ugly and poorly engineered in that it could be both lighter and
stiffer by just moving the pipe junctions to more beneficial
positions


You're going to _so_ hate the new lightweight tandems.

http://paketabike.com/index.cfm?page=tandems
http://www.co-motion.com/tandem_bikes/macchiato.html



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Old March 27th 09, 05:09 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Chalo
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AMuzi wrote:

Greg Evans wrote:

Or perhaps a 'Love Bike'?
http://www.lovebike.com/


Ow! My eyes! Gaaaahhhh!


Doesn't really look any worse than a Chunk bike:

http://dclxvi.org/chunk/meet/long/index.html

Actually, now that you mention it, putting lipstick on the pig makes
it look worse. What that Love Bike needs is burnt paint and some duct
tape.

Chalo
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Old March 27th 09, 05:13 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default Aesthetics and good engineering *can* co-exist even in tandems

On Mar 27, 9:57*am, "Clive George" wrote:
"Andre Jute" wrote in message

...



http://www.bilenky.com/viewpnt.html


Ugly and poorly engineered in that it could be both lighter and
stiffer by just moving the pipe junctions to more beneficial
positions


You're going to _so_ hate the new lightweight tandems.

http://paketabike.com/index.cfm?page...macchiato.html


Yeah. The professionals realize that it's out of plane bending and
torsional stiffness that makes or breaks a tandem. More triangles do
nothing for either, but bigger tubes do, and incidentally make the
frame plenty strong in plane.
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Old March 27th 09, 06:58 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Mar 27, 11:43*am, Greg Evans wrote:
TBerk wrote:
In Palo Alto Ca, near the local Fry's Electronics store was a
familt out biking around. Most were on what looked like
convetional bikes but Dad and a young girl were on a custome
job-


Pops drove from the rear seat, the young kid (w/ helmets all
around btw) was more in the middle of the frame with what
looked like her own set of pedals, and the frame was painted
yellow with two tubes running front to back with one positioned
over the other vertically.


Lets say you took a ladder, laid it flat on the ground, now
grab one side and rotate that edge up vertical. (The rungs are
now pointing up & down.) *Attach bike wheels fore and aft,
place a seat in the middle and only God know what type of
steering leading to the seat over the back wheel. *Perhaps it
was a cable/pully type situation.
Does this sound at all like a known, if rare, type bike?


pm wrote:
Are you describing a half-recumbent tandem? Bilenky ViewPoint is
one such bicycle.
http://www.bilenky.com/viewpnt.html


Greg Evans wrote:
Or perhaps a 'Love Bike'?
http://www.lovebike.com/


Andrew Muzi wrote:
Ow! My eyes! Gaaaahhhh!


What? You're not feelin' the love, Andrew?


Is that the bike that gynecologists use to practice on wimmen at the
Crawferd Ranch?
 




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