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National Climate March.National Climate March Saturday December6th 2008
On 8 Dec, 01:58, "nightjar" cpb@insert my surname here.me.uk
wrote: "Doug" wrote in message ... On 5 Dec, 17:35, "nightjar" cpb@insert my surname here.me.uk wrote: "Doug" wrote in message ... No but your point of view seems to be held by some of the people on this march so why not join in instead of making excuses not to? I don't need an excuse to do something I think is a total waste of time. If a pretty young thing couldn't get me marching to Aldermaston, you won't get me marching on Parliament So what do you do, apart from carry on polluting regardless, just vote? Remind me, just how quickly did marching help the CND achieve their aims? True, I could say the same thing about the Suffragettes and their quest for equality via the vote. The anti-poll tax people scored a victory though and so did London Critical Mass the other day. Win some lose some. Check this out http://london.indymedia.org.uk/articles/366 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2008/12/414493.html -- Critical Mass London http://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk "More bikes, fewer cars!". |
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National Climate March.National Climate March Saturday December 6th 2008
"Doug" wrote in message ... On 8 Dec, 01:58, "nightjar" cpb@insert my surname here.me.uk wrote: "Doug" wrote in message ... On 5 Dec, 17:35, "nightjar" cpb@insert my surname here.me.uk wrote: "Doug" wrote in message ... No but your point of view seems to be held by some of the people on this march so why not join in instead of making excuses not to? I don't need an excuse to do something I think is a total waste of time. If a pretty young thing couldn't get me marching to Aldermaston, you won't get me marching on Parliament So what do you do, apart from carry on polluting regardless, just vote? Remind me, just how quickly did marching help the CND achieve their aims? True, I could say the same thing about the Suffragettes and their quest for equality via the vote. The anti-poll tax people scored a victory though According to the opinion polls of the time, only 2% of the population supported the poll tax, which would have made contiuning with it political suicide. That, rather than the riot, was what decided the fate of the poll tax. The riot did help get rid of Maggie Thatcher though. and so did London Critical Mass the other day.... London Critical Mass achieved a victory through the Courts. Colin Bignell |
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National Climate March.National Climate March Saturday December 6th 2008
In article 4041fb87-1dbd-472f-b153-b248869b22d7
@l42g2000yqe.googlegroups.com, Doug says... On 8 Dec, 01:58, "nightjar" cpb@insert my surname here.me.uk wrote: "Doug" wrote in message ... On 5 Dec, 17:35, "nightjar" cpb@insert my surname here.me.uk wrote: "Doug" wrote in message ... No but your point of view seems to be held by some of the people on this march so why not join in instead of making excuses not to? I don't need an excuse to do something I think is a total waste of time. If a pretty young thing couldn't get me marching to Aldermaston, you won't get me marching on Parliament So what do you do, apart from carry on polluting regardless, just vote? Remind me, just how quickly did marching help the CND achieve their aims? True, I could say the same thing about the Suffragettes and their quest for equality via the vote. The anti-poll tax people scored a victory though and so did London Critical Mass the other day. Win some lose some. What did CM achieve? -- Conor I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't looking good either. - Scott Adams |
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National Climate March.National Climate March Saturday December6th 2008
On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 11:21:13 -0000
Conor wrote: What did CM achieve? A ruling that participants in the event couldn't be prosecuted by the police on the basis that the non-existent organisers hadn't submitted notice of the non-existent planned route. :-) Move along, nothing to see here ... |
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National Climate March.National Climate March Saturday December6th 2008
On 8 Dec, 08:53, "nightjar" cpb@insert my surname here.me.uk
wrote: "Doug" wrote in message ... On 8 Dec, 01:58, "nightjar" cpb@insert my surname here.me.uk wrote: "Doug" wrote in message ... On 5 Dec, 17:35, "nightjar" cpb@insert my surname here.me.uk wrote: "Doug" wrote in message ... No but your point of view seems to be held by some of the people on this march so why not join in instead of making excuses not to? I don't need an excuse to do something I think is a total waste of time. If a pretty young thing couldn't get me marching to Aldermaston, you won't get me marching on Parliament So what do you do, apart from carry on polluting regardless, just vote? Remind me, just how quickly did marching help the CND achieve their aims? True, I could say the same thing about the Suffragettes and their quest for equality via the vote. The anti-poll tax people scored a victory though According to the opinion polls of the time, only 2% of the population supported the poll tax, which would have made contiuning with it political suicide. That, rather than the riot, was what decided the fate of the poll tax. The riot did help get rid of Maggie Thatcher though. and so did London Critical Mass the other day.... London Critical Mass achieved a victory through the Courts. The CM victory was achieved after years of being harassed by police and a determination to carry on riding despite it. -- Critical Mass London http://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk "Whose streets? Our streets!". |
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National Climate March.National Climate March Saturday December 6th 2008
"Doug" wrote in message ... On 8 Dec, 08:53, "nightjar" cpb@insert my surname here.me.uk wrote: "Doug" wrote in message ... On 8 Dec, 01:58, "nightjar" cpb@insert my surname here.me.uk wrote: "Doug" wrote in message ... On 5 Dec, 17:35, "nightjar" cpb@insert my surname here.me.uk wrote: "Doug" wrote in message ... No but your point of view seems to be held by some of the people on this march so why not join in instead of making excuses not to? I don't need an excuse to do something I think is a total waste of time. If a pretty young thing couldn't get me marching to Aldermaston, you won't get me marching on Parliament So what do you do, apart from carry on polluting regardless, just vote? Remind me, just how quickly did marching help the CND achieve their aims? True, I could say the same thing about the Suffragettes and their quest for equality via the vote. The anti-poll tax people scored a victory though According to the opinion polls of the time, only 2% of the population supported the poll tax, which would have made contiuning with it political suicide. That, rather than the riot, was what decided the fate of the poll tax. The riot did help get rid of Maggie Thatcher though. and so did London Critical Mass the other day.... London Critical Mass achieved a victory through the Courts. The CM victory was achieved after years of being harassed by police and a determination to carry on riding despite it. and it still needed to go through the Courts to achieve anything. Colin Bignell |
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National Climate March.National Climate March Saturday December6th 2008
On 8 Dec, 17:58, "nightjar" cpb@insert my surname here.me.uk
wrote: "Doug" wrote in message ... On 8 Dec, 08:53, "nightjar" cpb@insert my surname here.me.uk wrote: "Doug" wrote in message ... On 8 Dec, 01:58, "nightjar" cpb@insert my surname here.me.uk wrote: "Doug" wrote in message ... On 5 Dec, 17:35, "nightjar" cpb@insert my surname here.me.uk wrote: "Doug" wrote in message ... No but your point of view seems to be held by some of the people on this march so why not join in instead of making excuses not to? I don't need an excuse to do something I think is a total waste of time. If a pretty young thing couldn't get me marching to Aldermaston, you won't get me marching on Parliament So what do you do, apart from carry on polluting regardless, just vote? Remind me, just how quickly did marching help the CND achieve their aims? True, I could say the same thing about the Suffragettes and their quest for equality via the vote. The anti-poll tax people scored a victory though According to the opinion polls of the time, only 2% of the population supported the poll tax, which would have made contiuning with it political suicide. That, rather than the riot, was what decided the fate of the poll tax. The riot did help get rid of Maggie Thatcher though. and so did London Critical Mass the other day.... London Critical Mass achieved a victory through the Courts. The CM victory was achieved after years of being harassed by police and a determination to carry on riding despite it. and it still needed to go through the Courts to achieve anything. It was achieved by defying the police, one way or another, like so many protests against the State. -- UK Radical Campaigns www.zing.icom43.net One man's democracy is another man's regime. |
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National Climate March.National Climate March Saturday December 6th 2008
"Doug" wrote in message ... ..... and so did London Critical Mass the other day.... London Critical Mass achieved a victory through the Courts. The CM victory was achieved after years of being harassed by police and a determination to carry on riding despite it. and it still needed to go through the Courts to achieve anything. It was achieved by defying the police, one way or another, like so many protests against the State. The important point is that it was achieved only by following the correct legal procedures. Colin Bignell |
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National Climate March.National Climate March Saturday December6th 2008
On 10 Dec, 08:41, "nightjar" cpb@insert my surname here.me.uk
wrote: "Doug" wrote in message ... .... and so did London Critical Mass the other day.... London Critical Mass achieved a victory through the Courts. The CM victory was achieved after years of being harassed by police and a determination to carry on riding despite it. and it still needed to go through the Courts to achieve anything. It was achieved by defying the police, one way or another, like so many protests against the State. The important point is that it was achieved only by following the correct legal procedures. Why is that important? Sometimes the government just backs down following protests. -- Critical Mass London http://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk "More bikes, fewer cars!". |
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