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Old July 5th 19, 01:38 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thursday, July 4, 2019 at 11:26:32 PM UTC+1, jbeattie wrote:

There are parallels between Nazism and the soup Nazi.


What's a "soup Nazi"?
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On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 12:57:47 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:

Jay, I'm still waiting for you to answer why anyone in Portland would have to watch his speech which was not aggressive. Or why the police didn't feel the need to protect a citizen of this country from being beaten, sprayed with pepper spray and struck with a pipe that gave him a brain hemorrhage when they were standing RIGHT THERE and did absolutely nothing under the orders of your kind of man?
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On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 1:15:25 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 11:53:05 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 7:14:53 AM UTC-7, Zen Cycle wrote:
On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 8:53:13 PM UTC-4, Andre Jute wrote:
See https://www.nationalreview.com/corne...lands-anti-fa/ about the police-assisted fascisti who call themselves Anti-Fa in Portland beating up a gay Asian journalist.

Andre Jute
Disgusted at the Antifa's racism

Still hoping for another krystalnacht when your "proud boys" are allowed to run amok with impunity, eh Andre? Or maybe you would just like to see people passively sit and 'turn the other cheek' like when Dylan Roof performed his act of heroism on that unsuspecting elder black prayer circle. Face it, you're just ****ed because people are actively fighting back against your attempts at suppression/oppression. Ngo was an active supporter of the 'proud boys', and had published Islamophobic screeds. He may be gay and asian, but you know you're actually being quite dishonest when you suggested he was targeted for that. Meanwhile, the rants on your side of "jews will not replace us" go completely unmentioned by you.

Zencycle
Disgusted at Jute's hypocrisy.


The Antifa are the SAME people as Hitler's brownshirts and they should be treated as such. I would have had a different reaction than some journalist who was doing nothing but reporting what was going on.

Believe me Zen - if you were to make your comments to my face you would only do it once.


If you're going to the play, at least read the program. The Brownshirts are the Proud Boys and Patriot Prayer. Antifa are the Bolsheviks. Its Fascists versus Communists. Antifa has no interest in racial purity or ultra-nationalism. If anything, they trend more towards Anarchism, which is another group of guys and gals with black bandannas and apparently short attention spans, because I don't see them much anymore.


-- Jay Beattie.


When the tactics are identical the groups are identical whichever side they are on. But in your world extreme violence is OK as long as it is for your own politics.
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Old July 5th 19, 05:08 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 3:15:39 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:

Andre Jute
Noblesse oblige


After the comments of Jay implying that free speech has no place in Portland I think that we can safely categorize him and understand why he couldn't care less about homeless or drug addicts supplied non-stop by illegal aliens.
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Old July 5th 19, 05:41 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Friday, July 5, 2019 at 9:08:36 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 3:15:39 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:

Andre Jute
Noblesse oblige


After the comments of Jay implying that free speech has no place in Portland I think that we can safely categorize him and understand why he couldn't care less about homeless or drug addicts supplied non-stop by illegal aliens.


Free speech receives more protection in Oregon than any state in the union. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_v._Henry

Please STFU, along with all the other tin-foil hat whack-jobs tying up our police dispatchers with alt-right whining. https://www.wweek.com/news/city/2019...ne-29-protest/

We'll take care of our problems here, which pale in comparison to Oakland. https://www.forbes.com/pictures/mlj4.../#4c3153957d73 Try not to get shot walking to the market.

-- Jay Beattie.
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Old July 5th 19, 05:50 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 3:33:36 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 8:47:32 PM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 3:33:21 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 10:42:49 AM UTC+1, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 3 Jul 2019 02:00:16 -0700 (PDT), Andre Jute
wrote:

On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 7:48:57 AM UTC+1, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 3 Jul 2019 05:53:12 -0000 (UTC), news18
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jul 2019 15:15:29 -0700, Andre Jute wrote:

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 4:35:20 AM UTC+1, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 5:53:13 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:


Why was he there?

Andy Ngo was reporting for The Spectator, the oldest continuously
published magazine in the world.

Means absolutley nothing these days. Plenty of "media' collect click bait
articles by paid agents.

"oldest continuously published magazine in the world"

An interesting statement as "The Scots Magazine" was first published
in January 1776 and claims to be the oldest magazine in the world
still in publication while "The Spectator" was first published in
July 1828. But perhaps the confusion arises because almost certainly
the title was revived from The Spectator a daily publication founded
by Joseph Addison and Richard Steele in England, lasting from 1711 to
1712.
--
cheers,

John B.

Yo, Slow Johnny, thanks for the fact-check. You can be my new Google-bug, to replace one Carl Fogel/Vogel/whatever, who was a professional librarian but ran away. Or, more precisely, you can, as soon as you learn to read every word I write, and take the time to understand every word in its context, and of course whatever subtexts I give it, or ostentatiously refrain from giving it, as a message to the sophisticated (and wide-awake) reader. In this case, you're befuddled by missing out on the modifier "continuously" before "published". Do better.

Andre Jute
Relentless rigour -- Gaius Germanicus Ceasar

Well, I guess I'd be upset too if somebody pointed out that I didn't
know what I was talking.

Why should I be upset, Slow Johnny? You're doing a tedious little job for me for free. I always knew I could count on you.

By the way, did you ever lose enough weight to be able to ride your
bicycle up a hill? Or are you still using the "motor bike"?

Nah. That's just something else you didn't read carefully enough to understand. It's not about weight, it's about a heart rate limit that I negotiated with the therapists and my cardio team after heart surgery. The motor fills in any exertion above that level. Don't bust a gut about it; it probably isn't important to you.

--
cheers,

What do you have to be so cheerful about, or is it just a reflex knee-jerk?

John B.

Andre Jute
Duh


We now have two of our group that have contracted heart problems. Both now have pace-makers and both tried to ride as hard as before and had further problems. Now they ride like the sissies they have become. I simply do not push myself beyond what feels like a reasonable limit. That stops me from climbing with the group so I generally break off from them or don't even start.


Since I came to cycling late in life, I found it impossible to learn to vary my cadence. As a result I've always regulated my output on the bike by my heart rate, so having a maximum heart rate regime enforced was simply a continuation of a previous routine, though at a modestly lower level (after I renegotiated the standard level I was first instructed to observe). One tip for your riding companions: My cardiologist insists on warm-up *and* warm-down. Fortunately my house is geographically situated so that I can just jump on the bike and start gently as a warmup, and ditto for returning from the other direction being warm-down.

I'm getting close to 2,000 miles now and 75,000 feet of climbing so it isn't as if I'm slacking off.


Holy ****. I live among hills (my country town is often referred to as "the Rome of West Cork") but even if I rode on the highest hills every day of the week that still be less than a 1000 feet, so in half a year you've already done what would take me a year and a half.

Now that we've had Jay's fascist comments and John (lives in Thailand where the REAL poor live) B. comments about US foreign policies while it is none of his business anymore, we have to wonder what is going on in their minds.


Groupthink. I'm not surprised Slow Johnny, who is a pompous ass and not very bright, succumbs to it, but Jay, who is brighter, is in the vise being slowly squeezed between his lifelong commitment to a Democrat party that has deserted him, as it deserted Ronald Reagan (a superior union leader and a Democrat after his acting career ran out), for regions of uncharted irrationality and the murderously irrational force of blackshirtism.

Andre Jute
As I grow older, it takes less and less time for my lonely stands for the truth to be proved right. Fancy that!


That's pretty surprising. 2 miles from my home is a 600 ft hill that I climb over, drop down again and then climb another 200 feet to the top of a hill where we meet. Then it is 900 ft to the top of Redwood Rd. to Muriel Gate.. We then descend and turn and climb (little) Pinehurst which is 600 feet followed by Valley which is about 200 ft but 11% so it is somewhat of a killer.

Palomares is 1,000 ft but I only do that in one direction. It also is followed by a number of rollers which add another couple of hundred feet and then a final hill into Castro Valley which is another 150 feet but only 5%. I climb that leaving it in the big ring.

I did Stage Road from Pescadero to San Gregorio and returned last Thursday and it was 1400 feet of climbing of 5,6 and 7%. In general I do not count anything less than 5% as climbing unless it is part of a hard climb.

We have far more trying climbs such as Mt. Diablo at 3,850, Mt Tamalpias at almost 2,600 feet and of course Mt Hamilton at 4,265 ft. This one has a front side that is 7% since the observatory was originally constructed in 1887 and hence all of the materials for the observatory were hauled to the top via mule train and they won't pull over 7%. The backside is Mines Rd though and that is a different story. This leaves from Livermore and ascends about a thousand feet to the "halfway house" café. From there you start up "The Wall" as its called and that is STEEP. 12% or more on the turns. The north side of Mt. Diablo is also pretty steep at about a constant 8-9% over a long distance. The last 100 feet up Mt. Diablo is 24%. That is steep enough that most people cannot make it and choose to walk.

While the south to north ride up Palomares Rd. is pretty mild there are very steep portions of it that read 12%. The north to south though is a killer.. Most of the 1,000 ft occurs over only one mile with 9% blending into 10% then increasing to 11% and then over the top at 12% though some people say it hits 13% I haven't seen that.

On the north side of the Golden Gate Bridge you can rise up Cozelman Rd. This rises to 800 feet if memory serves. it is about 8% for most of the way from the bridge. The other side that goes down to Ft. Baker is 18% over a long distance for that sort of grade. Some people climb it for fun.

Even the "easy" 700 foot Dublin Grade which is only 5-6% has a side road - Shafer Ranch Rd. that starts at 16%, climbs about 200 feet and at the top "flattens" to 13%.

Each year, normally, I have about 250,000 feet of climbing though I imagine that this year I'll be below that.
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Old July 5th 19, 06:00 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Tom Kunich[_5_]
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On Friday, July 5, 2019 at 9:41:30 AM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, July 5, 2019 at 9:08:36 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 3:15:39 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:

Andre Jute
Noblesse oblige


After the comments of Jay implying that free speech has no place in Portland I think that we can safely categorize him and understand why he couldn't care less about homeless or drug addicts supplied non-stop by illegal aliens.


Free speech receives more protection in Oregon than any state in the union. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_v._Henry

Please STFU, along with all the other tin-foil hat whack-jobs tying up our police dispatchers with alt-right whining. https://www.wweek.com/news/city/2019...ne-29-protest/

We'll take care of our problems here, which pale in comparison to Oakland.. https://www.forbes.com/pictures/mlj4.../#4c3153957d73 Try not to get shot walking to the market.

-- Jay Beattie.


Again you show your mind. What exactly is it with white leftists that they believe that their view is the only view? That anywhere on the left coast that any leftist protestors are not touched by police no matter what they do goes without saying.

Give us another piece of click bait from some leftist lame stream media. The violence in Oakland is among gangs and coincidental deaths are treated as no big deal. Just like you're treating the near murder of a reporter as no big deal because he holds opposite political views from yours.
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Old July 5th 19, 06:57 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 7/5/2019 12:00 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, July 5, 2019 at 9:41:30 AM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, July 5, 2019 at 9:08:36 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 3:15:39 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:

Andre Jute
Noblesse oblige

After the comments of Jay implying that free speech has no place in Portland I think that we can safely categorize him and understand why he couldn't care less about homeless or drug addicts supplied non-stop by illegal aliens.


Free speech receives more protection in Oregon than any state in the union. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_v._Henry

Please STFU, along with all the other tin-foil hat whack-jobs tying up our police dispatchers with alt-right whining. https://www.wweek.com/news/city/2019...ne-29-protest/

We'll take care of our problems here, which pale in comparison to Oakland. https://www.forbes.com/pictures/mlj4.../#4c3153957d73 Try not to get shot walking to the market.

-- Jay Beattie.


Again you show your mind. What exactly is it with white leftists that they believe that their view is the only view? That anywhere on the left coast that any leftist protestors are not touched by police no matter what they do goes without saying.

Give us another piece of click bait from some leftist lame stream media. The violence in Oakland is among gangs and coincidental deaths are treated as no big deal. Just like you're treating the near murder of a reporter as no big deal because he holds opposite political views from yours.



I thought it was all peace and love:

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/johns...nd-5757592.php

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On 7/5/2019 1:00 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
The violence in Oakland is among gangs and coincidental deaths are treated as no big deal.


You need to move far away from that hell hole.

Why can't you get a job that will pay enough for you to do that? I mean,
a man of your brilliance and experience should have employers wining and
dining him!

--
- Frank Krygowski
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On Thursday, July 4, 2019 at 10:08:09 AM UTC+1, John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Wed, 3 Jul 2019 11:53:04 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 7:14:53 AM UTC-7, Zen Cycle wrote:
On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 8:53:13 PM UTC-4, Andre Jute wrote:
See https://www.nationalreview.com/corne...lands-anti-fa/ about the police-assisted fascisti who call themselves Anti-Fa in Portland beating up a gay Asian journalist.

Andre Jute
Disgusted at the Antifa's racism

Still hoping for another krystalnacht when your "proud boys" are allowed to run amok with impunity, eh Andre? Or maybe you would just like to see people passively sit and 'turn the other cheek' like when Dylan Roof performed his act of heroism on that unsuspecting elder black prayer circle. Face it, you're just ****ed because people are actively fighting back against your attempts at suppression/oppression. Ngo was an active supporter of the 'proud boys', and had published Islamophobic screeds. He may be gay and asian, but you know you're actually being quite dishonest when you suggested he was targeted for that. Meanwhile, the rants on your side of "jews will not replace us" go completely unmentioned by you.

Zencycle
Disgusted at Jute's hypocrisy.


The Antifa are the SAME people as Hitler's brownshirts and they should be treated as such. I would have had a different reaction than some journalist who was doing nothing but reporting what was going on.

Believe me Zen - if you were to make your comments to my face you would only do it once.


As you say, I do not live in the U.S. and haven't for some years so I
have never heard of the "Antifa"so I had to read up on them on the Net
and I read:

The Antifa movement is a conglomeration of left-wing autonomous,
militant anti-fascist groups in the United States... Activists
involved in the movement tend to be anti-capitalists and subscribe to
a range of ideologies, typically on the left. They include anarchists,
socialists and communists...

This hardly sounds like the Brownshirts, actual name "The
Sturmabteilung", literally Storm Detachment, was the Nazi Party's
original paramilitary.Its primary purposes were providing protection
for Nazi rallies and assemblies, disrupting the meetings of opposing
parties, especially the Communist Party of Germany (KPD), and
intimidating Romani, trade unionists, and, especially, Jews.

It appears that you have gotten it wrong (yet again) as the Antifa are
described as being very Left Wing... anarchists, socialists and
communists.

While the Brownshirts seem to have been exactly the opposite and
attacked communists and trade unions and other such socialist
organizations.

--

Cheers,

John B.


You're such a dim dingbat, Slow Johnny. I've already explained above why Ernst Roehm's Brownshirts were far left-wingers. But let me spell it out for you. Hitler, a socialist and leader of the National Socialist or NaZi party for short, killed Roehm and the rest of the Brownshirt's leadership because the Army, whose support Hitler required to institute an elected dictatorship, demanded stability, and Roehm wanted his revolution to continue, that is, he was well to the left of Hitler who was courting the Prussian Establishment, which was essentially the Army. There was also an element of sexual politics, just as there is today, in that the Junkers (that's about 90% the same thing as the German Establishment, and the Army High Command too) found Roehm's homosexuality disgusting. Basically, Stalin had Trotsky killed (well, besides the fact that Trotsky knew how little Lenin valued Stalin, so that Stalin couldn't rewrite history to move himself centrestage during the Bolshevik Revolution until Trotsky and a whole bunch of other Old Bolsheviks were dead) for the same reason, that Trotsky believed in everlasting revolution and Stalin was in power and consolidating and expanding his power, and did want any sideshow bovvers right then.

An exercise you may want to consider it to consider whether the "crowdsourced" information on Wikipedia isn't written by Klantifa and its sympathisers.. You might also want to consider why Hitler, an explicit socialist, is called a "right-winger", and by whom, and what they have to gain, when that other massmurdering socialist thug, Stalin, to the Left is Dear Uncle Joe. Everything gets easier to understand once you go past the labels biased people have laid on them, and see them both as left-wing totalitarian thugs and murderers.

Andre Jute
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