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On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 19:15:11 GMT, Werehatrack
wrote:

On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 12:02:04 -0600, wrote:

On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 15:17:07 GMT, Werehatrack
wrote:

On 7 Apr 2005 07:54:02 -0700, "Vee" wrote:

Qui si parla Campagnolo wrote:

A experienced, good wheelbuilder is tough to find even here in the
'republic', where I can count on one hand the decent wheelbuilders
here.

What do you mean by the republic?

I believe this is a whimsical reference to the "Republic of Boulder",
an ideological enclave in the philosophical desert that is most of
neocon Colorado.

[snip]

Dear Werehatrack,

Actually, the usual full title is the "People's Republic of
Boulder." Omitting that first word gives a rather misleading
impression of what the phrase means.

I have even heard it further expanded by a West Denver type into
"People's Democratic Republic of Boulder". The speaker was bemoaning
the lack of sympathy he'd found there for his application to put up a
ten-bay self-service car wash of the spray-lotsa-soapy-water variety.

Dear Werehatrack,

Any city whose chief industry is catering to college
students at a heavily subsidized state university is likely
to have a philosophy and wisdom reflecting that of its
13th-grade employers.

One-third (30,000) of the population of Boulder (94,000)
attends the University of Colorado:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boulder,_Colorado

Another 6,500 are directly employed by the University, not
counting another 250 who vanish due to hand-waving:

http://www.colorado.edu/masterplan/p...an.cgi?1&4&2&1

This amounts to one employee for every 4.6 students.

"D'ye think th' colledges has much to do with th' progress
iv of the wurruld?" asked Mr Hennessy.

"D'ye think," said Mr Dooley, "tis th' mill that makes th'
water run?"

"Colleges and Degrees," Finley Peter Dunne

Carl Fogel

I think the type of shop will determine your responses. For the 'take 'em
outta the box, get 'em sold', vs the type that focusus on service as we
and others like Andy Muzi does. Then you will get somewhat of both with
Mike J.

The main thing is to keep it relatively quiet about what Mike J actually
knows and has done in a past life. The last thing in the world he needs is
for people to start bringing in things like SA 3-speeds for overhauls. Wheel
builds he still very much enjoys doing, but has, alas, little time for.
Probably because in his "spare" time, he's answering questions in 3rd person
on newsgroups...

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 13:50:59 -0600, wrote:

Any city whose chief industry is catering to college
students at a heavily subsidized state university is likely
to have a philosophy and wisdom reflecting that of its
13th-grade employers.

Blame also should be laid at the feet of the fools who fail to
remember that the real purpose of a university was supposed to be
academic education, not providing bread and circuses.

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Werehatrack wrote:
On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 13:50:59 -0600, wrote:

Any city whose chief industry is catering to college
students at a heavily subsidized state university is likely
to have a philosophy and wisdom reflecting that of its
13th-grade employers.

Blame also should be laid at the feet of the fools who fail to
remember that the real purpose of a university was supposed to be
academic education, not providing bread and circuses.

http://www.instantattitudes.com/gifs/bs473.gif

Virtually the entire purpose of university football/sports is to
encourage alumni donations. It works splendidly. The culprits are the
graduates who are old enough to have made their pile. I figure it's
their bread, let them have their circus.

wrote:

Any city whose chief industry is catering to college
students at a heavily subsidized state university is likely
to have a philosophy and wisdom reflecting that of its
13th-grade employers.

Aren't the "employers" the administration of the university? In that
case, wouldn't it be fairer to describe them as 16th(+) grade
employers? What's the mean grade level of your town's employers
(assuming you don't live in Boulder)? Is lower better?

Vee wrote:
Qui si parla Campagnolo wrote:


A experienced, good wheelbuilder is tough to find even here in the
'republic', where I can count on one hand the decent wheelbuilders

here.

What do you mean by the republic?
" People's Republic of Boulder"...I guess that bit of humor zoomed past ya.


Building wheels isn't exceptionally
difficult, and lots of mechanics do it decently, if that means their
wheels stay true and don't break spokes. Without trying very hard, I
can think of about 10 professional mechanics I've known who build
wheels that meet the criteria above (stay straight/no broken spokes).
Only about four of them have built hundreds or thousands of wheels, but
I don't think that's relevant. Here in Madison, it seems like a
majority of mechanics know about stress-relieving, double butted
spokes, and so on. That doesn't mean all mechanics are building good
wheels, but more than a handful are. Is Madison atypical, or am I just
wrong? This "good wheelbuilder" stuff sounds egotistical sometimes...
just wondering what you mean.

Just from my experience. never been to the 'republic of Madison', I
guess I'll ask Andy Muzi about how many wrenches in Madison actually
build good wheels. As for wheelbuilding...no it's not difficult but it
isn't 'easy' as you imply.

I agree with you about boxed wheels... customers want them because of
marketing, and it's hard to set them straight (the customers and the
wheels).

-Vee

On 8 Apr 2005 06:16:02 -0700, "Peter Cole"
wrote:


wrote:

Any city whose chief industry is catering to college
students at a heavily subsidized state university is likely
to have a philosophy and wisdom reflecting that of its
13th-grade employers.

Aren't the "employers" the administration of the university? In that
case, wouldn't it be fairer to describe them as 16th(+) grade
employers? What's the mean grade level of your town's employers
(assuming you don't live in Boulder)? Is lower better?

Dear Peter,

Er, are you suggesting that the administrators "employ" the
college students who pay them (even with heavy subsidies)
thousands of dollars?

Usually, employers pay workers, not the other way around.

Carl Fogel

wrote:

On 8 Apr 2005 06:16:02 -0700, "Peter Cole"
wrote:


wrote:


Any city whose chief industry is catering to college
students at a heavily subsidized state university is likely
to have a philosophy and wisdom reflecting that of its
13th-grade employers.

Aren't the "employers" the administration of the university? In that
case, wouldn't it be fairer to describe them as 16th(+) grade
employers? What's the mean grade level of your town's employers
(assuming you don't live in Boulder)? Is lower better?


Dear Peter,

Er, are you suggesting that the administrators "employ" the
college students who pay them (even with heavy subsidies)
thousands of dollars?

Usually, employers pay workers, not the other way around.

Carl Fogel

I think "customers" would be a better analogy.

--
My bike blog:
http://diabloscott.blogspot.com/

wrote:
On 8 Apr 2005 06:16:02 -0700, "Peter Cole"
wrote:


wrote:

Any city whose chief industry is catering to college
students at a heavily subsidized state university is likely
to have a philosophy and wisdom reflecting that of its
13th-grade employers.

Aren't the "employers" the administration of the university? In that
case, wouldn't it be fairer to describe them as 16th(+) grade
employers? What's the mean grade level of your town's employers
(assuming you don't live in Boulder)? Is lower better?

Dear Peter,

Er, are you suggesting that the administrators "employ" the
college students who pay them (even with heavy subsidies)
thousands of dollars?

Usually, employers pay workers, not the other way around.

Here in Boston higher education is a huge industry. Virtually all of
the schools in this town are well-endowed private institutions. "Town
vs. gown" conflicts are not unknown, but to suggest the students have
any political clout at all is humorous. In towns where state
universities are dominant entities, it's even more laughable. That's
like saying the inmates run prison towns.

On 8 Apr 2005 14:22:41 -0700, "Peter Cole"
wrote:


wrote:
On 8 Apr 2005 06:16:02 -0700, "Peter Cole"
wrote:


wrote:

Any city whose chief industry is catering to college
students at a heavily subsidized state university is likely
to have a philosophy and wisdom reflecting that of its
13th-grade employers.

Aren't the "employers" the administration of the university? In that
case, wouldn't it be fairer to describe them as 16th(+) grade
employers? What's the mean grade level of your town's employers
(assuming you don't live in Boulder)? Is lower better?

Dear Peter,

Er, are you suggesting that the administrators "employ" the
college students who pay them (even with heavy subsidies)
thousands of dollars?

Usually, employers pay workers, not the other way around.

Here in Boston higher education is a huge industry. Virtually all of
the schools in this town are well-endowed private institutions. "Town
vs. gown" conflicts are not unknown, but to suggest the students have
any political clout at all is humorous. In towns where state
universities are dominant entities, it's even more laughable. That's
like saying the inmates run prison towns.

Dear Peter,

Somehow I doubt that one-third of the roughly half-million
population of Boston proper is attending college and
expecting to leave after four years of residence.

But that's the case in Boulder--the city population in
winter is about 90,000, including about 30,000 students and
6,750+ university employees. At 18 or older, they can all
vote and often do.

Boulder is physically separated from Denver, which is hardly
the case in the Boston area. Harvard, for example, is not in
Boston, despite what visitors from Colorado may think.
Harvard is in Cambridge, a much smaller city that it
dominates.

Boston has a bay, an international airport, and considerable
industry. Boulder has the University of Colorado and not
much else:

http://www.ci.boulder.co.us/comm/history/

The inmates, employees, employers--whatever you want to call
the huge student population--do indeed exercise considerable
influence in Boulder. Much of the older population,
particularly in city and county government consists of CU
alumni.

By happy chance, here's the main headline from the
04-08-2005 edition of the Boulder newspaper:

"TIME TO VOTE A comprehensive preview of the upcoming UCSU
elections" [the reader is referred to a special 3-page
section on the university's elections]

http://www.coloradodaily.com/

Both of the editorials are also on school matters, most news
articles are about college students, and so on.

Here's a newspaper from another Colorado city of about
100,000 people:

http://www.chieftain.com/

Compare them for a few days, and you'll probably be able to
see which one covers a town overwhelmingly dominated by a
university.

Carl Fogel