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On 8 Apr 2005 06:08:11 -0700, "Peter Cole"
wrote:


Werehatrack wrote:
On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 13:50:59 -0600, wrote:

Any city whose chief industry is catering to college
students at a heavily subsidized state university is likely
to have a philosophy and wisdom reflecting that of its
13th-grade employers.

Blame also should be laid at the feet of the fools who fail to
remember that the real purpose of a university was supposed to be
academic education, not providing bread and circuses.

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Virtually the entire purpose of university football/sports is to
encourage alumni donations. It works splendidly. The culprits are the
graduates who are old enough to have made their pile. I figure it's
their bread, let them have their circus.

A team of accountants examined the books of something like fifteen
major universities a few years back and discovered that for the
majority of the schools (over 80%, IIRC) the long term effect of
alumni donations in support of sports was a net loss for the
university. The sports programs and infrastructure gobble cash year
round, whether they're winning (or playing) or not; the *regular*
alumni donations tend to be insufficient to meet the day-to-day needs,
and the *special* ones merely get blown on expanding the palaces in
the quest for ever greater prestige. It's a false economy to seek
funds for a university for reasons other than education.
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On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 00:05:31 GMT, Werehatrack
wrote:

On 8 Apr 2005 06:08:11 -0700, "Peter Cole"
wrote:


Werehatrack wrote:
On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 13:50:59 -0600, wrote:

Any city whose chief industry is catering to college
students at a heavily subsidized state university is likely
to have a philosophy and wisdom reflecting that of its
13th-grade employers.

Blame also should be laid at the feet of the fools who fail to
remember that the real purpose of a university was supposed to be
academic education, not providing bread and circuses.

http://www.instantattitudes.com/gifs/bs473.gif

Virtually the entire purpose of university football/sports is to
encourage alumni donations. It works splendidly. The culprits are the
graduates who are old enough to have made their pile. I figure it's
their bread, let them have their circus.

A team of accountants examined the books of something like fifteen
major universities a few years back and discovered that for the
majority of the schools (over 80%, IIRC) the long term effect of
alumni donations in support of sports was a net loss for the
university. The sports programs and infrastructure gobble cash year
round, whether they're winning (or playing) or not; the *regular*
alumni donations tend to be insufficient to meet the day-to-day needs,
and the *special* ones merely get blown on expanding the palaces in
the quest for ever greater prestige. It's a false economy to seek
funds for a university for reasons other than education.

Dear Werehatrack,

I recall the same kind of studies that you mention, which
show that college athletic departments usually cost more
than they make through tickets, licensing, and alumni
contributions.

There's also the issue of the graduation rate of student
athletes, who generally play the Christians to the alumni
lions and emperors in the bread-and-circus analogy, spending
a few years playing sports before dropping out (often badly
injured) and finding that there's little market for their
athletic skills.

Of course, I'm sure that we can all agree that vast sums of
money spent on a bicycle team would be an entirely different
matter and quite worthwhile.

Objectively,

Carl Fogel

Neil Brooks wrote:
"Vee" wrote:


Qui si parla Campagnolo wrote:


A experienced, good wheelbuilder is tough to find even here in the
'republic', where I can count on one hand the decent wheelbuilders

here.

What do you mean by the republic?


Time to bring back your signature, Peter. Not that heinous .vcf
pop-up-Peter attachment crap either. Just the straight sig.

Maybe it'll result in you reverting to your old style of posting.
Maybe it wasn't AOHell's fault after all....


Got rid of the vcard thing but I'll be durned if I can figure out how to
put a signature at the end of my posts...I use Mozilla Thunderbird.

I write the sig on the 'account tools and settings' thingy but it
doesn't show up on my posts..more 'puter mysterys.

wrote:

Much of the older population,
particularly in city and county government consists of CU
alumni.

Yes, I think this is more the source of the liberalism you decry,
rather than the student body per se. In MA college towns (like UMass
Amherst) it seems almost every person over early 20's in age is an
alumni.

On 9 Apr 2005 09:17:39 -0700, "Peter Cole"
wrote:


wrote:

Much of the older population,
particularly in city and county government consists of CU
alumni.

Yes, I think this is more the source of the liberalism you decry,
rather than the student body per se. In MA college towns (like UMass
Amherst) it seems almost every person over early 20's in age is an
alumni.

Dear Peter,

You may be reading more into my posts than is there.

Carl Fogel

On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 15:15:44 -0400, "Michael Dart"
wrote:

Most diffucult and most ignored, good wheelbuilding. Many people build
wheels, not a lot of 'wheelbuilders'.


Just curious. What separates them?

Swagger.
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