Philly Sucks

"Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote in message
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"Robert" wrote in message
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There is no connection between the freedom to post here and being gay.
The problems start when people decide they want to play grab ass, tit for
tat, and engage in all kinds of personal attacks. The free in freedom
should be that anyone can post anything related to cycling and have a
reasonably civil discussion.

Hey, if some queer is playing grabass with you it is unlikely that
management will do anything because of threats from gay rights groups. But
if you grab a woman's ass you are likely to lose your job and perhaps end
up behind bars. That's the sort of "equality" that queers want.

I am sure you have read plenty on the gay rights agendas. I have read a fair
bit on this, to see where it might be heading. What is most grevious is its
long term effect on society. Even a gay liberal democrat has written a short
piece on this as noted earlier.

http://www.freerepublic.com:80/focus.../2022069/posts

Here is a number of Chung charts on gay questions in society. The majority
of people still oppose gay rights in the charts, but they are outdated by
one election cycle.

http://www.publicagenda.com/citizen/...eople-concerns

Robert

PS-Prop 8 passed in California!

On Nov 5, 7:42*pm, "Robert Chung"
wrote:

I, for one, welcome our new black, muslim, gay, socialist, terrorist
overlords.

I'm partial to the communists. I'm hoping we can get an old-school,
Eastern-Bloc style cycling program going to really show the world how
to kick some ass.

On Nov 5, 4:57*pm, "Robert" wrote:
"Kurgan Gringioni" wrote in message

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Someone like Bruce will never understand his own hypocrisy.

thanks,

K. Gringioni.

Explain it to me.



Dumbass -


Your impulsive, then you rationalize your impulses, failing to see how
from a philosophical standpoint your impulses contradict each other.


thanks,

K. Grinigoni.

On Nov 5, 11:15*am, "Robert" wrote:
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So basically, this has nothing to do with anything -
you're just assuming that if you put two
disconnected irrational prejudices together, you'll
get a Reese's Peanut Butter Cup instead of a
**** sandwich. *Good luck with that.

Ben

You're an asshole deluxe. All you do is wonder around these threads and bark
out some **** at people without offering much of anything interesting. That
seems to be a trend with you.

Good luck with that!

Who started crying about Prop 8 and ranting about
gays, Bruce? You did. You're the one who went off.
Nobody else was talking about it.
You and Kunich specialize in whining about anybody
who makes you uncomfortable, and then blaming
the rest of the group for going off topic, and bitching
about who really rides or doesn't, as if you knew.
Grow up. Take some responsibility for yourself.
Admit you bring these discussions on yourself.
Be a man for once in your squirmy life.

Ben

On Nov 5, 8:12*pm, "Robert" wrote:

However to keep it short.....short! I don't feel
its in the best interest of our children and society.

unlike "model" photos of Belgian girl cyclists.

"Kyle Legate" wrote in message
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Robert wrote:

Show me a Chung chart on what race white men prefer the most as partners.
However, that's a different issue altogether. Prop 8 strikes a theme
critical to the very core of society. At least mixed interracial
marriages were still between a man and women.

How is society hurt by a couple of dudes loving each other?

I have seen the damage this lifestyle does firsthand.

I had an old high school buddy who also worked where I worked. He was a
Billy Jack kind of dude, pretty tough guy. He had a girlfriend, and she was
awesome, good company. She cooked and cleaned, and was a great companion for
him. For some reason, he started playing around with this lifestyle. He
moved her out and started inviting queers over. I split, told him later
days. I saw the guy about a year later, and he was all screwed up. He said
he had to go to a shrink for a long time, and told me how sad he was he
moved his old girlfriend out. He knew he lost a good partner in her. He's
still screwed up today, although he is trying to move on. He is still
haunted and ashamed about what he did.



I know also another friend from high school who's sister was married to a
guy who also moved her out and moved in a bunch of queers. They had two
little girls, so she had to get them the hell out of there quick! This dude
also lost his cookies, lost his job and another guy bites the dust. This
lifestyle is destructive, I have seen it firsthand. It's not pretty, but
very sad in many cases. I don't support it, and I'll vote against it every
time.



When I worked in Fresno, queers were all over the place. I was getting
hounded by them on a regular basis on the job. I moved the hell out of
there, and never looked back. I like the Highland because there are very few
gays up there. There might be a few, but they are few and far between up
here in the highland. Mostly retired folks live here, and they make
excellent neighbors. Besides that, gangland activity is non-existent, as
where in the city, its rampant. Here, you can walk the streets uptown no
problem at all, even late at night. 50 miles away in the city, you don't
dare do that at night! The gangs cruise all night long. My friends son was
rolled by a gangbanger right in front of Safeway at night. Those two groups,
I can do without, gays and gangbangers. I don't go to the city late at
night, unless I'm packin.



Prop 8 passed in California, BTW.



Robert

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On Nov 5, 11:15 am, "Robert" wrote:
" wrote in message

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So basically, this has nothing to do with anything -
you're just assuming that if you put two
disconnected irrational prejudices together, you'll
get a Reese's Peanut Butter Cup instead of a
**** sandwich. Good luck with that.

Ben

You're an asshole deluxe. All you do is wonder around these threads and
bark
out some **** at people without offering much of anything interesting.
That
seems to be a trend with you.

Good luck with that!

Who started crying about Prop 8 and ranting about
gays, Bruce? You did. You're the one who went off.
Nobody else was talking about it.
You and Kunich specialize in whining about anybody
who makes you uncomfortable, and then blaming
the rest of the group for going off topic, and bitching
about who really rides or doesn't, as if you knew.
Grow up. Take some responsibility for yourself.
Admit you bring these discussions on yourself.
Be a man for once in your squirmy life.

Ben

Dummy, Wart started this troll, Henry bit, and I countered his attack on my
character. Get your facts straight.

I thought your were Benjamin somebody, some other guy who was pretty civil.
I don't know who the hell you are, but you're not him. All you do is set
flame bait traps. I'm not biting on those traps, as crafty as you make them.

BTW, Prop 8 passed!

Robert

"Kurgan Gringioni" wrote in message
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On Nov 5, 4:57 pm, "Robert" wrote:
"Kurgan Gringioni" wrote in message

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Someone like Bruce will never understand his own hypocrisy.

thanks,

K. Gringioni.

Explain it to me.



Dumbass -


Your impulsive, then you rationalize your impulses, failing to see how
from a philosophical standpoint your impulses contradict each other.


thanks,

K. Grinigoni.

That's deep. I was hoping for better, but what I believe is pretty straight
forward. I don't like to complicate my life by being forced to accept every
agenda that rides the political winds. The less clutter in life the better.
What it really comes down to for me is space. Lets face it, that's why rich
people live in gated communities with lots of space. If the neighbors are
gay, at least there is plenty of space between us, which is what most of us
want, space, regardless, space is the most important thing for me. Space and
solitude, far removed from the obnoxious sounds of planes, trains and cars.
Its everyone's dream, to have space, peace and quite. If you have that, its
easier to tolerate all the problems that divide us as a nation.



Prop 8 passed.



Robert

"Robert" wrote in message
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BTW, Prop 8 passed!

And bjw is bent out of shape. I guess that tells us a whole lot.

SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:

"There is a debate over the effectiveness and usefulness of caucuses
in Iowa [or anywhere, for that matter]. One criticism is that the
caucuses, especially the Democratic caucus, are a step backwards from
the right to a secret ballot.[citation needed]

Democratic caucus participants (though not Republicans, whose caucuses
vote by secret ballot) must publicly state their opinion and vote,
leading to natural problems such as peer pressure from fellow
neighbors and embarrassment over who his/her real pick might be.
Another criticism involves the sheer amount of participants' time
these events consume.

An Iowa caucus can last up around two hours, preventing people who
must work, who are sick, or must take care of their children from
casting their vote. Absentee voting is also barred, so soldiers who
come from Iowa, but must serve in the military, lose their vote. The
final criticism is the complexity of the rules in terms of how one's
vote counts, as it is not a simple popular vote.

Arguments in favor of caucuses include the belief that they favor more
motivated participants than simple ballots, and that supporters of non-
viable candidates are able to realign with a more popular candidate
and still make their vote "count".

Each precinct's vote may be weighed differently due to its past voting
record. Ties can be solved by picking a name out of a hat or a simple
coin toss, leading to anger over the true democratic nature of these
caucuses.[17] Additionally, the representation of the caucus has had a
traditionally low turnout.[18] Others question the permanent feature
of having caucuses in certain states, while perpetually ignoring the
rest of the country.[19]"

I think you've actually understated the problems with caucuses. While
I've never participated in a Democratic caucus, a friend once went and
railed at me about it for a couple weeks afterward. It's all about
allowing the party to control the situation and keeping the power out of
the people's hands. Who owes whom a favor and who's greased who's palm.

On the other hand, we are a republic. That electoral college system was
designed to keep power away from the great unwashed masses too.