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Old June 14th 08, 10:08 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Amit Ghosh wrote:
it is the bike equivalent of a high maintainence girlfriend.


At least the bike doesn't have a headache every time you want to
ride it.

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Old June 14th 08, 10:54 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Jun 13, 4:05*pm, wrote:

Actually, the Look integrated seatpost is more reliable than a regular
post, if the clamp loosens or breaks, then the post cannot fall into
the seat tube. I talked directly to their rep here in France and he
said that they were required by EU law to keep spare parts for it for
at least 5 years (assuming the company lasts that long, of course).
You also have quite a margin of adjustment, about 4cm with a minimum
of 1mm spacers, which means you only have to cut the post once, and it
probably won't have to be recut if you sell the bike (as I wrote
previously, a Paris bike shop told me that this was not the case and
that you could never readjust saddle height without recutting the
frame, the rep was not pleased when I told him about this). *This is
not true for any of the other brands, as far as I know. Also, the
extra stiffness from integrated seat post can be counteracted by the
use of elastomer spacers.


Right, and when you buy a baseball bat, it comes
with a foam sleeve that slips over it so that it doesn't
hurt as much when you club yourself in the head
repeatedly.

Or you could just not club yourself in the head.

Ben
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Old June 14th 08, 11:09 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Jun 14, 3:38*am, "
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On Jun 13, 6:21*pm, "Paul G." wrote:



On Jun 13, 3:27 pm, "
wrote:


In my opinion, nobody should use an integrated seatpost
design unless they're being paid/sponsored to ride the
bike, and even then it's questionable. *Fat Masters should
not use an integrated seatpost design even if they are
being sponsored. *In part this is because the possible
advantage or aero benefit is of no use to Fat Masters, and
in part it's to keep me from havin to listen to hem yakking
about their integrated aero seatmasts at the coffee shop.


So right. Jesus Christ, these new fangled bikes seem like science
fiction to an old timer like me, though I still can't grok THROWING
them. Regular seatposts were good enough for Eddy, so they're good
enough for me.
-Paul


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:E...RecordBike.jpg

http://www.cyclingnews.com/sponsors/...ears/?id=pics/
EddyHourRecord

Not sure if these are actually the same bike, but though
drilled handlebars may have been good enough for
Eddy, they are not good enough for me. *Although I note
he doesn't seem to have had the seatpost drilled.

Speaking as somebody who's broken quite a few freewheel
hub axles (I hardly break anything else, just those damn axles),
I'm not against innovation. *I'm against *stupid* innovation.

Ben


This bike is no longer legal, too light.

-ilan
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Old June 14th 08, 04:33 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Default cutting the Time VXRS seat-post? integrated design...

On Jun 13, 6:38 pm, "
wrote:


Speaking as somebody who's broken quite a few freewheel
hub axles (I hardly break anything else, just those damn axles),
I'm not against innovation. I'm against *stupid* innovation.


Speaking of that, any guesses as to when the new 11 speed cassettes
come out, and where it will all end? More's Law of Cycling:
"More cogs, more bettah." -Yoshi Shimano.

Kids laugh when I tell them I had to ride to school on a bike with
only 5 cogs.
-Paul
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Old June 14th 08, 08:26 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Jun 13, 6:38*pm, "
wrote:
On Jun 13, 6:21*pm, "Paul G." wrote:



On Jun 13, 3:27 pm, "
wrote:


In my opinion, nobody should use an integrated seatpost
design unless they're being paid/sponsored to ride the
bike, and even then it's questionable. *Fat Masters should
not use an integrated seatpost design even if they are
being sponsored. *In part this is because the possible
advantage or aero benefit is of no use to Fat Masters, and
in part it's to keep me from havin to listen to hem yakking
about their integrated aero seatmasts at the coffee shop.


So right. Jesus Christ, these new fangled bikes seem like science
fiction to an old timer like me, though I still can't grok THROWING
them. Regular seatposts were good enough for Eddy, so they're good
enough for me.
-Paul


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:E...RecordBike.jpg

http://www.cyclingnews.com/sponsors/...ears/?id=pics/
EddyHourRecord

Not sure if these are actually the same bike, but though
drilled handlebars may have been good enough for
Eddy, they are not good enough for me. *Although I note
he doesn't seem to have had the seatpost drilled.

Speaking as somebody who's broken quite a few freewheel
hub axles (I hardly break anything else, just those damn axles),
I'm not against innovation. *I'm against *stupid* innovation.

Ben


The problem these days is that it's all about performance and in many
cases maintenance is a afterthought. The other is is price/
performance. I used to work in a shop and I am very surprised that
bike companies are able to charge so much. With the UCI weight limits
there is a finite gain to be made. A lot of the parts companies seem
more interested in seeing how they can lock you in to their groupo's
or integrated bottom brackets etc...
 




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