Rock Racing's wandering bike choices

On Sep 12, 2:36*pm, Donald Munro wrote:
SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:

It's not about the bike, but it is important to choose the right water
bottle cage and frame pump.

SOTS is going to upgrade the US constitution to ban compact frames
so he can still use his 80's frame pump.

isn't that on the republican platform ?

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On Sep 12, 2:10*pm, LawBoy01 wrote:
I will just say this. *My friend Hans Schneider is a custom
framebuilder in Huntsville, Texas. *He also does frame repair for a
lot of manufacturers and importers. *Trialtir in Houston recently sent
him a bunch of Rock Racing green-and-black De Rosa Idols to remove the
decals because Ball backed out of a deal with Trialtir for the
importation and sale of De Rosa Idol RR team model framesets for sale
in the U.S. *The framesets will remain green and black, but Hans is
removing the Rock Racing decals and is going to be doing something
else with the area where the decals used to be. *I don't know what
Trialtir will do with the frames when he's done.

those fuji's look pretty decient, but I though rock were riding
cadillacs.....

Ho, yeah! Good catch!

For the uninitiated, one strange bike licensing deal:

http://www.cadillacbicycles.com/ca_eliteroad.html

It's not a total shock that someone licensed the name to put on
bicycles. It's a bit of a shock that the bicycles it is on are not
completely hopeless.

Their dealer network is also odd: in the US it's mostly bike shops and
online, in Canada it's fairly evenly split between bike shops and . . .
Cadillac car dealerships.

BTW, it looks like they're about to release a NuVinci model.

Oh, and oh yes...

http://www.cadillacbicycles.com/urban-escalade.html

The Cadillac Escalade. BMX.

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Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

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LawBoy01 wrote:

I will just say this. My friend Hans Schneider is a custom
framebuilder in Huntsville, Texas. He also does frame repair for a
lot of manufacturers and importers. Trialtir in Houston recently sent
him a bunch of Rock Racing green-and-black De Rosa Idols to remove the
decals because Ball backed out of a deal with Trialtir for the
importation and sale of De Rosa Idol RR team model framesets for sale
in the U.S. The framesets will remain green and black, but Hans is
removing the Rock Racing decals and is going to be doing something
else with the area where the decals used to be. I don't know what
Trialtir will do with the frames when he's done.

Interesting. Thanks for the note. It does mention in one of the
Cyclingnews articles that Rock's deal was with Trialtir, not De Rosa.

--
Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

On Sep 12, 6:00*pm, Ryan Cousineau wrote:
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*LawBoy01 wrote:
I will just say this. *My friend Hans Schneider is a custom
framebuilder in Huntsville, Texas. *He also does frame repair for a
lot of manufacturers and importers. *Trialtir in Houston recently sent
him a bunch of Rock Racing green-and-black De Rosa Idols to remove the
decals because Ball backed out of a deal with Trialtir for the
importation and sale of De Rosa Idol RR team model framesets for sale
in the U.S. *The framesets will remain green and black, but Hans is
removing the Rock Racing decals and is going to be doing something
else with the area where the decals used to be. *I don't know what
Trialtir will do with the frames when he's done.

Interesting. Thanks for the note. It does mention in one of the
Cyclingnews articles that Rock's deal was with Trialtir, not De Rosa.

--
Ryan Cousineau /
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

Speaking of cool, and a real eclectic framebuilder:

http://www.richardsachs.com/dvd.html


Imperfection is Perfection
A Film About Richard Sachs and his Bicycles

For nine months in 2007, film maker Des Horsfield made a documentary
about bicycle frame builder Richard Sachs.


No I don't work for him, just have a man crush on his bikes,
especially cross. He's also a great person, and seriously into finding
and promoting the perfect gourmet cupcake.
ATMO
Bill C

On Sep 12, 12:47*pm, wrote:
On Sep 12, 2:10*pm, LawBoy01 wrote:

I will just say this. *My friend Hans Schneider is a custom
framebuilder in Huntsville, Texas. *He also does frame repair for a
lot of manufacturers and importers. *Trialtir in Houston recently sent
him a bunch of Rock Racing green-and-black De Rosa Idols to remove the
decals because Ball backed out of a deal with Trialtir for the
importation and sale of De Rosa Idol RR team model framesets for sale
in the U.S. *The framesets will remain green and black, but Hans is
removing the Rock Racing decals and is going to be doing something
else with the area where the decals used to be. *I don't know what
Trialtir will do with the frames when he's done.

those fuji's look pretty decient, but I though rock were riding
cadillacs.....

The problem with the DeRosa's that Rock was using, they were pieces of
**** !!
**** poor construction , broken or cracked Bottom bracket shells,
chain stays, etc.
The damn internal routing of cables didn't work, had to jury rig an
external cable routing system.
They were garbage !!! Some MFG need to stick with what they know and
DeRosa doesn't get it when it comes to Carbon.
Fuji may not have the Euro bling factor, but they make a good quality
and realible line of bikes.
So far the testing has gone well and gets a thumbs up from most of the
riders.
Ball certainly wasn't going to sign on to a deal with Trialtir/Derosa
when 75% of their bike have failed to this point.


OMC

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Bill C wrote:

On Sep 12, 6:00*pm, Ryan Cousineau wrote:
In article
,

*LawBoy01 wrote:
I will just say this. *My friend Hans Schneider is a custom
framebuilder in Huntsville, Texas. *He also does frame repair for a
lot of manufacturers and importers. *Trialtir in Houston recently sent
him a bunch of Rock Racing green-and-black De Rosa Idols to remove the
decals because Ball backed out of a deal with Trialtir for the
importation and sale of De Rosa Idol RR team model framesets for sale
in the U.S. *The framesets will remain green and black, but Hans is
removing the Rock Racing decals and is going to be doing something
else with the area where the decals used to be. *I don't know what
Trialtir will do with the frames when he's done.

Interesting. Thanks for the note. It does mention in one of the
Cyclingnews articles that Rock's deal was with Trialtir, not De Rosa.

--
Ryan Cousineau /
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

Speaking of cool, and a real eclectic framebuilder:

http://www.richardsachs.com/dvd.html


Imperfection is Perfection
A Film About Richard Sachs and his Bicycles

For nine months in 2007, film maker Des Horsfield made a documentary
about bicycle frame builder Richard Sachs.


No I don't work for him, just have a man crush on his bikes,
especially cross. He's also a great person, and seriously into finding
and promoting the perfect gourmet cupcake.
ATMO

atmo, e-Richie may still read this forum. Of course, we all have
gargantuan bikesexual urges towards his idea of lugged steel
imperfection, but he's also stopped adding names to his very long
waiting list.

--
Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

On Sep 12, 4:59*pm, Ryan Cousineau wrote:
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wrote:
On Sep 12, 2:10*pm, LawBoy01 wrote:
I will just say this. *My friend Hans Schneider is a custom
framebuilder in Huntsville, Texas. *He also does frame repair for a
lot of manufacturers and importers. *Trialtir in Houston recently sent
him a bunch of Rock Racing green-and-black De Rosa Idols to remove the
decals because Ball backed out of a deal with Trialtir for the
importation and sale of De Rosa Idol RR team model framesets for sale
in the U.S. *The framesets will remain green and black, but Hans is
removing the Rock Racing decals and is going to be doing something
else with the area where the decals used to be. *I don't know what
Trialtir will do with the frames when he's done.

those fuji's look pretty decient, but I though rock were riding
cadillacs.....

Ho, yeah! Good catch!

For the uninitiated, one strange bike licensing deal:

http://www.cadillacbicycles.com/ca_eliteroad.html

It's not a total shock that someone licensed the name to put on
bicycles. It's a bit of a shock that the bicycles it is on are not
completely hopeless.

Their dealer network is also odd: in the US it's mostly bike shops and
online, in Canada it's fairly evenly split between bike shops and . . .
Cadillac car dealerships.

BTW, it looks like they're about to release a NuVinci model.

Oh, and oh yes...

http://www.cadillacbicycles.com/urban-escalade.html

The Cadillac Escalade. BMX.

--
Ryan Cousineau /
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

I was just making a quick jibe of the sponsor on their jersey- I was
unaware of the cadillac bike company ( even though I apparently have
ridden past their office many times)

OMC wrote:
The problem with the DeRosa's that Rock was using, they were pieces of
**** !!
**** poor construction , broken or cracked Bottom bracket shells, chain
stays, etc.
The damn internal routing of cables didn't work, had to jury rig an
external cable routing system.
They were garbage !!!

They should have got Bianchi. At least they have a decent warranty.

On Sep 13, 2:16*am, Donald Munro wrote:
OMC wrote:
The problem with the DeRosa's that Rock was using, they were pieces of
**** !!
**** poor construction , broken or cracked Bottom bracket shells, chain
stays, etc.
The damn internal routing of cables didn't work, had to jury rig an
external cable routing system.
They were garbage !!! *

They should have got Bianchi. At least they have a decent warranty.

why not just pick up some chinese made bikes at the local walmart ?

On Sep 12, 10:04*pm, Ryan Cousineau wrote:


atmo, e-Richie may still read this forum. Of course, we all have
gargantuan bikesexual urges towards his idea of lugged steel
imperfection, but he's also stopped adding names to his very long
waiting list.

--
Ryan Cousineau /
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."- Hide quoted text -

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Yeah, last I heard 6 years. There're pretty regular chances to pick up
the teams used bikes though.
Found out about the documentary when Adam mentioned he got his copy
the other day. Have to save the $40 bucks for some good beer, and Mug
Adam for his copy when he comes out to run CSI.
;-)
Bill C