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Rock Racing's wandering bike choices
On Sep 13, 8:28*am, Bill C wrote:
On Sep 12, 10:04*pm, Ryan Cousineau wrote: atmo, e-Richie may still read this forum. Of course, we all have gargantuan bikesexual urges towards his idea of lugged steel imperfection, but he's also stopped adding names to his very long waiting list. -- Ryan Cousineau / "In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls." "In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, last I heard 6 years. There're pretty regular chances to pick up the teams used bikes though. *Found out about the documentary when Adam mentioned he got his copy the other day. Have to save the $40 bucks for some good beer, and Mug Adam for his copy when he comes out to run CSI. ;-) Bill C For $1,800-2,200 USD, you can have a custom lugged or fillet brazed steel frameset made my Hans Schneider with a 2-3 month wait. Hans made himself a semi-sloping fillet brazed frame with True Temper S3 steel that weighs 3 lbs (traditional specs would be 57 c-t with a 58.5 cm tt); his complete bike with EDCO/GP4 wheels, speedplays and off the shelf bits weighs 16 lbs. My neuron frameset with Centaur, pedals and Easton circuits weighs 19. With Gel 330s and edco hubs it's a hair over 18, steel fork and all. I like e-Ritchie's artisanship, but it doesn't do the pedaling for you. |
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Rock Racing's wandering bike choices
wrote in message ... On Sep 13, 2:16 am, Donald Munro wrote: OMC wrote: The problem with the DeRosa's that Rock was using, they were pieces of **** !! **** poor construction , broken or cracked Bottom bracket shells, chain stays, etc. The damn internal routing of cables didn't work, had to jury rig an external cable routing system. They were garbage !!! They should have got Bianchi. At least they have a decent warranty. why not just pick up some chinese made bikes at the local walmart ? --------------------- Does DeRosa use Chinese/Taiwanese factories? |
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"Carl Sundquist" wrote: wrote in message ... On Sep 13, 2:16 am, Donald Munro wrote: OMC wrote: The problem with the DeRosa's that Rock was using, they were pieces of **** !! **** poor construction , broken or cracked Bottom bracket shells, chain stays, etc. The damn internal routing of cables didn't work, had to jury rig an external cable routing system. They were garbage !!! They should have got Bianchi. At least they have a decent warranty. why not just pick up some chinese made bikes at the local walmart ? --------------------- Does DeRosa use Chinese/Taiwanese factories? They'd be fools not to. -- Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/ "In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls." "In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them." |
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Rock Racing's wandering bike choices
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, LawBoy01 wrote: On Sep 13, 8:28*am, Bill C wrote: On Sep 12, 10:04*pm, Ryan Cousineau wrote: atmo, e-Richie may still read this forum. Of course, we all have gargantuan bikesexual urges towards his idea of lugged steel imperfection, but he's also stopped adding names to his very long waiting list. -- Ryan Cousineau / "In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls." "In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, last I heard 6 years. There're pretty regular chances to pick up the teams used bikes though. *Found out about the documentary when Adam mentioned he got his copy the other day. Have to save the $40 bucks for some good beer, and Mug Adam for his copy when he comes out to run CSI. ;-) Bill C For $1,800-2,200 USD, you can have a custom lugged or fillet brazed steel frameset made my Hans Schneider with a 2-3 month wait. Hans made himself a semi-sloping fillet brazed frame with True Temper S3 steel that weighs 3 lbs (traditional specs would be 57 c-t with a 58.5 cm tt); his complete bike with EDCO/GP4 wheels, speedplays and off the shelf bits weighs 16 lbs. My neuron frameset with Centaur, pedals and Easton circuits weighs 19. With Gel 330s and edco hubs it's a hair over 18, steel fork and all. I like e-Ritchie's artisanship, but it doesn't do the pedaling for you. Yes and yes, well... One does ultimately vote with one's wallet. I have a pair of boring aluminum frames for my CX and road bike, plus a gaggle of steel frames. One obviously buys or rides a Sachs for reasons other than performance-per-dollar, but it's not an indefensible choice. You can think of Sachs frames as expensive by bike standards, or really cheap given that they're quite possibly the nicest steel frames ever made. -- Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/ "In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls." "In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them." |
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On Sep 14, 1:55*am, Ryan Cousineau wrote:
In article , *LawBoy01 wrote: For $1,800-2,200 USD, you can have a custom lugged or fillet brazed steel frameset made my Hans Schneider with a 2-3 month wait. *Hans made himself a semi-sloping fillet brazed frame with True Temper S3 steel that weighs 3 lbs (traditional specs would be 57 c-t with a 58.5 cm tt); his complete bike with EDCO/GP4 wheels, speedplays and off the shelf bits weighs 16 lbs. *My neuron frameset with Centaur, pedals and Easton circuits weighs 19. *With Gel 330s and edco hubs it's a hair over 18, steel fork and all. I like e-Ritchie's artisanship, but it doesn't do the pedaling for you. Yes and yes, well... One does ultimately vote with one's wallet. I have a pair of boring aluminum frames for my CX and road bike, plus a gaggle of steel frames. One obviously buys or rides a Sachs for reasons other than performance-per-dollar, but it's not an indefensible choice. You can think of Sachs frames as expensive by bike standards, or really cheap given that they're quite possibly the nicest steel frames ever made. -- Ryan Cousineau / "In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls." "In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I'd still suck on either one, and have a Redline Conquest to ride since that fit into the budget, but for me I'd buy a bike or two from Richie in a heartbeat for lots of not racing related reasons. He's an incredible craftsman, and that's something I love. He's someone I know and like who's done a ton of really good things for cycling and people without blowing his own horn. He's always there when someone needs a hand, and he's semi-local and works in steel which, being traditional makes me happy. Lots of the same apply to IF. I love the way they go about things, and do business. Great backstory too.: http://www.ifbikes.com/who2/index.shtml Bill C |
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