Limbaugh: Is free speech dead?

"B. Sanders" wrote in message news:EHXgb.67094$%h1.46704@sccrnsc02...

"bandjhughes" wrote in message
m...

Screaming Nazi is nothing but being a troll and is synonymous with
baiting. If your goal is to be a troll, you're being very successful.

It's easy to bait the weak minded, like yourself.

But if you want to be thought of as a person that has a sense of
proportion and is rational--you're failing badly.

In case you haven't noticed, the US is starting to smell a little bit like a
fascist regime, not entirely unlike Germany in the late 1930's. Case in
point: USA PATRIOT Act. Don't think Ashcroft is going to stop there. He has
big plans. I'm not the first person to make Nazi comparisons. Several world
leaders and uncounted journalists beat me to the punch. Germany in the
1930's was a democratic society in difficult fiancial straits which allowed
a minor politician to rise to [dictatorial] power and begin a
hyper-nationalistic [and racist] conquest for global domination after a
massive military build-up. There are many more parallels, including the
underlying motivations for Germany's expansionism (and that of the US).

Don't tell me that you buy this "war on terror" ruse. Why haven't we invaded
Saudi Arabia, the home of 14 of the 19 hijackers responsible for 9/11? US
hypocrisy is abundantly evident to everyone but brainwashed Americans.

But I was just baiting Ed, because I don't think he has the faintest glimmer
about any of this. He should stop whining and run back to his TV set for
another Rush from Limbaugh.

-=B=-

B. Sanders is the easiest type of polemicist to deal with because he
is crazy as a loon. You do not have to take him seriously. I generally
have to give some attention to what Mr. Sherman says because as much
as I disagree with him he is not crazy. But B. Sanders takes the cake.
To be able to find parallels between this country and Nazi Germany is
nuts. Now will the rest of you believe me when I tell you that
liberals are not be be trusted.

He does not know what he is talking about when it comes to Rush.
Liberals simply can't listen to him for more than two seconds (he
thinks Rush is on the TV when of course he is only on the radio). If
they could, they would find out that he is the most profound thinker
and political analyst extant in the world today. His every aside is a
gem of wisdom. I am constantly amazed not only by how much he knows
but more importantly how he is able to put the proper cast on it.
Believe it or not, I do not agree with Rush on everything by a long
shot, but I have nothing but the greatest respect for his intellect.
B. Sanders could get an education by listening to old Rushdie instead
of dredging up odious comparisons of the present day US with 1930's
Nazi Germany. Rush above all else is entertaining as hell. He is funny
and witty and can make me laugh. And it is all for free on the radio.
Ah! Life is good!

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

Mr. Sanders,

I have read your diatribe and vitrial against the conservatives. Making
references of Nazi Germany to portray our current government leads me to
believe that you are nothing more than a ignorant, bed-wetting liberal.



"B. Sanders" wrote in message
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"bandjhughes" wrote in message
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"B. Sanders" wrote in message
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"brian hughes" wrote in message
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It seems like when a political thread gets going, it's almost a
certainty
that there's someone out there that will scream Nazi or make an
analogy
with
Hitler or the Nazi party. Apparently these Nazi screamers are
unaware
that
when they do this, they're not credible, they're not influencing
anyone,
and
they're not going to change anyone's opinions (except probably
changing
other reader's opinion of the Nazi screamer himself).

Yeah, and then there's always some mother hen who comes around and
wags
her
finger and frowns, unable to see the obvious ironic use of the Nazi
comparisons to bait a flag-waving dittohead troll.

-=B=-

Screaming Nazi is nothing but being a troll and is synonymous with
baiting. If your goal is to be a troll, you're being very successful.

It's easy to bait the weak minded, like yourself.

But if you want to be thought of as a person that has a sense of
proportion and is rational--you're failing badly.

In case you haven't noticed, the US is starting to smell a little bit like
a
fascist regime, not entirely unlike Germany in the late 1930's. Case in
point: USA PATRIOT Act. Don't think Ashcroft is going to stop there. He h
as
big plans. I'm not the first person to make Nazi comparisons. Several
world
leaders and uncounted journalists beat me to the punch. Germany in the
1930's was a democratic society in difficult fiancial straits which
allowed
a minor politician to rise to [dictatorial] power and begin a
hyper-nationalistic [and racist] conquest for global domination after a
massive military build-up. There are many more parallels, including the
underlying motivations for Germany's expansionism (and that of the US).

Don't tell me that you buy this "war on terror" ruse. Why haven't we
invaded
Saudi Arabia, the home of 14 of the 19 hijackers responsible for 9/11? US
hypocrisy is abundantly evident to everyone but brainwashed Americans.

But I was just baiting Ed, because I don't think he has the faintest
glimmer
about any of this. He should stop whining and run back to his TV set for
another Rush from Limbaugh.

-=B=-

Edward Dolan must be educated because he wrote:
...
I have often complained that there are many who post here whose posts
are way too short....

Really?

Tom Sherman

Edward Dolan wrote:
...
No doubt this nut would want us to compare the US media with the
Soviet propaganda media when the Cold War was ongoing too. How about
Algeciras, that Arab media, such as it is...

Do you mean Aljazeera? http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage

Tom Sherman

Screaming Nazi is nothing but being a troll and is synonymous with
baiting. If your goal is to be a troll, you're being very successful.

It's easy to bait the weak minded, like yourself.

But if you want to be thought of as a person that has a sense of
proportion and is rational--you're failing badly.

In case you haven't noticed, the US is starting to smell a little bit like
a
fascist regime, not entirely unlike Germany in the late 1930's. Case in
point: USA PATRIOT Act. Don't think Ashcroft is going to stop there. He
has
big plans. I'm not the first person to make Nazi comparisons. Several
world
leaders and uncounted journalists beat me to the punch. Germany in the
1930's was a democratic society in difficult fiancial straits which
allowed
a minor politician to rise to [dictatorial] power and begin a
hyper-nationalistic [and racist] conquest for global domination after a
massive military build-up. There are many more parallels, including the
underlying motivations for Germany's expansionism (and that of the US).

Wow, and here I thought you were just a troll that was unaware of his own
behavior. I'm sorry. I didn't realize how irrational a person like you can
get. Guess I shouldn't given you the benefit of the doubt by believing you
had some degree of mature rational thinking capability, because you sure
showed me I was wrong in assuming that.

Brian

(Truestorys) wrote in
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(Edward Dolan) wrote in message
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One thing I do know for su Rush is not dumb and he is
not a racist. Anyone who calls him those names is going to get an
earful from me.

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

Yea....... Give your earful to someone that said all those things Ed.

Winter must come early in Minnesota Ed. You may have a case of Cabin
Fever already. Locked up listening to Right Wing Radio, jumping from
Rush to Bill O'Reilly and then onto Hanity and then back to Rush, then
over to Bill. Maybe even wishing that Mike Savage guy was on the air.

Don't you know you can get Carpal Tunnel Syndrome turning that radio
dial that much?

That's why I sit in my car at lunch and use Push buttons to do this.


Man that Limbaugh is dumb and a racist!

B. Sanders wrote:

"Edward Dolan" wrote in message
m...
........
Screw political correctness all the way to
hell and back and screw those who defend political correctness. The
day is not far off when we will all be discussing race in this country
with a vengeance, and it will be the best thing that ever happened to
this country

Ok, then stop whining and tell us how it really is with racial issues in
America. Tell us the Truth About Race, Ed. Save us from our ignorant Lefty
selves. Speak your mind and prove that free speech still exists. Don't hold
back. Don't be a lilly-livered-Lefty on us. Be a gutsy, devil-may-care
Libertarian like your heroes. Let's hear your righteous rant about race
issues. What? You're afraid of repercussions? Afraid that somebody might
not agree with you? What would Rush think of you? I think he'd say you're
a coward.

See how easy it is too rile and discombobulate these unstable
liberals? Would you want a jackass like this to govern and rule over
you? Would you want this kind of thinking to be formulating policy?
Well, put liberals in office and this is what you will get. The guy
has diarrhea of the mind and of the emotions. He can't think straight.
He is a mess!

Where did he get the idea that I or any of those I admire are
libertarians? I hate those types as much as I hate his types.

As for discussing race, or any other subject for that matter, a proper
forum must be constituted. Any idiot knows that. One does not go off
half cocked and start spouting about sundry subjects such as race
issues unless the proper forum has been constituted. I guess I already
said that but repetition is needed in his case. But it would be a
waste of time to discuss anything with him in any event because he
believes in political correctness (as long as he can define what is
politically correct and not you).

An ACLU type who is into political correctness! What an abomination!

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

"brian hughes" wrote in message
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Screaming Nazi is nothing but being a troll and is synonymous with
baiting. If your goal is to be a troll, you're being very successful.

It's easy to bait the weak minded, like yourself.

But if you want to be thought of as a person that has a sense of
proportion and is rational--you're failing badly.

In case you haven't noticed, the US is starting to smell a little bit
like
a
fascist regime, not entirely unlike Germany in the late 1930's. Case in
point: USA PATRIOT Act. Don't think Ashcroft is going to stop there. He
has
big plans. I'm not the first person to make Nazi comparisons. Several
world
leaders and uncounted journalists beat me to the punch. Germany in the
1930's was a democratic society in difficult fiancial straits which
allowed
a minor politician to rise to [dictatorial] power and begin a
hyper-nationalistic [and racist] conquest for global domination after a
massive military build-up. There are many more parallels, including the
underlying motivations for Germany's expansionism (and that of the US).

Wow, and here I thought you were just a troll that was unaware of his own
behavior. I'm sorry. I didn't realize how irrational a person like you
can
get. Guess I shouldn't given you the benefit of the doubt by believing
you
had some degree of mature rational thinking capability, because you sure
showed me I was wrong in assuming that.

Keep your head in the sand. It's the Right thing to do.

-=B=-

"Hellbent Rick" wrote in message
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Mr. Sanders,

I have read your diatribe and vitrial against the conservatives. Making
references of Nazi Germany to portray our current government leads me to
believe that you are nothing more than a ignorant, bed-wetting liberal.

Perhaps in your fantasy world, that is true.

National Socialism didn't start out with the Final Solution as an end goal.
It was a gradual process. From your evident credulity, it will probably
surprise you to learn that most average Germans had no idea how far Hitler
had gone by the end of the war. It happened right under their noses, and
they had no idea, because their leaders weren't telling them about it. It
wasn't like they were advertising the concentration camps on TV, you know.
Extreme secrecy is another parallel between 1930's Germany and the current
US administration. Bush is the most secretive president in history - by a
wide margin - and has been so since his first days in office.

Why do people become extremely secretive? Let's assume that Bush is sane,
and not paranoid or delusional. Why all the secrecy? What is he hiding?

Of course, you *did* know that the Bush family was colluding with the Nazis,
right? This is not a conspiracy theory. This is well known and well
documented.

http://www.lpdallas.org/features/draheim/dr991216.htm

http://www.tarpley.net/bush2.htm

http://www.infowars.com/print_prescott.htm

This one should put a chill up your spine. An 81-yr-old WWII veteran telling
it like it is, and being even more specific that I have been about the
Nazi-Bush parallels. (Remember: He was there. He saw it with his own
eyes.)

http://www.rense.com/general27/bushnaz.htm

I'm merely drawing historical parallels, and making observations. Draw your
own conclusions.

-=B=-






"B. Sanders" wrote in message
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"bandjhughes" wrote in message
m...
"B. Sanders" wrote in message
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"brian hughes" wrote in message
nk.net...
It seems like when a political thread gets going, it's almost a
certainty
that there's someone out there that will scream Nazi or make an
analogy
with
Hitler or the Nazi party. Apparently these Nazi screamers are
unaware
that
when they do this, they're not credible, they're not influencing
anyone,
and
they're not going to change anyone's opinions (except probably
changing
other reader's opinion of the Nazi screamer himself).

Yeah, and then there's always some mother hen who comes around and
wags
her
finger and frowns, unable to see the obvious ironic use of the Nazi
comparisons to bait a flag-waving dittohead troll.

-=B=-

Screaming Nazi is nothing but being a troll and is synonymous with
baiting. If your goal is to be a troll, you're being very successful.

It's easy to bait the weak minded, like yourself.

But if you want to be thought of as a person that has a sense of
proportion and is rational--you're failing badly.

In case you haven't noticed, the US is starting to smell a little bit
like
a
fascist regime, not entirely unlike Germany in the late 1930's. Case in
point: USA PATRIOT Act. Don't think Ashcroft is going to stop there. He
h
as
big plans. I'm not the first person to make Nazi comparisons. Several
world
leaders and uncounted journalists beat me to the punch. Germany in the
1930's was a democratic society in difficult fiancial straits which
allowed
a minor politician to rise to [dictatorial] power and begin a
hyper-nationalistic [and racist] conquest for global domination after a
massive military build-up. There are many more parallels, including the
underlying motivations for Germany's expansionism (and that of the US).

Don't tell me that you buy this "war on terror" ruse. Why haven't we
invaded
Saudi Arabia, the home of 14 of the 19 hijackers responsible for 9/11?
US
hypocrisy is abundantly evident to everyone but brainwashed Americans.

But I was just baiting Ed, because I don't think he has the faintest
glimmer
about any of this. He should stop whining and run back to his TV set
for
another Rush from Limbaugh.

-=B=-

"Edward Dolan" wrote in message
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"B. Sanders" wrote in message
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"Tom Sherman" wrote in message
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Edward Dolan wrote:
...
There is plenty of time offered to the opposing viewpoint. It is to
be
found in the NY Times and most other major newspapers, all the TV
channels (with the exception of Fox News) and PBS radio and TV. What
the hell more do you want?...

Mr. Dolan does have a sense of humor, after all.

One only needs to read the mainstream European news sources to realize
how far right the mainstream US news media actually is.

The "liberal media" mantra is just another proof of the aphorism: "A
lie,
repeated often enough, becomes the truth." (See Orwellian parallel
below.)
It's telling that Ed sees the liberal media bias as a given in the US,
when
even a cursory comparison with media outside the US proves the assertion
patently false.

No doubt this nut would want us to compare the US media with the
Soviet propaganda media when the Cold War was ongoing too. How about
Algeciras, that Arab media, such as it is. Should we all be reading
that too? Most of the European media is so far left as to disgust any
right thinking American.

This phenomenon - like our current society, and the media that supports
it -
is a bit Orwellian: You hold up 3 fingers, and Ed sees two, because
Rush
and O'Reilly say that's how many there should be.

You aren't claiming that you actually think for yourself are you? On
the other hand, that would explain how you have arrived at such
moronic conclusions about everything.

Know this B. Sanders. You are an ACLU type.

Damned straight! You need to crack open a book at least once every decade
or so, Ed. The ACLU is directly responsible for many of the landmark Supreme
Court decisions protecting freedom of speech and expression that you hold so
dear. Don't believe me? Look up the Supreme Court cases yourself. It's
all there in the historical record, plain as day to those who don't just
take Rush's word as gospel. So, yes, I'm emphatically an "ACLU type," and
couldn't be more proud of it.

Your profound illogic is utterly baffling: How can you in one breath slam
the ACLU, and then out the other side of your mouth claim to love free
speech? Who taught you this crazy illogic?

and you defend political
correctness.

Did I *ever* defend political correctness? No.

-=B=-