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Helmet saves...
"AustinMN" wrote: Do you honestly believe that a 50 cent piece of
Styrofoam that can be crushed with a finger would protect a skull (clip) ^^^^^^^^^^^^ I honestly believe that a properly shaped Styrofoam surround is capable of protecting what is within it. That is why I drive home with eggs in a Styrofoam container, and why most delicate products are packaged by the manufacturers in Styrofoam. Are you aware that almost all car bumpers are now made of such foam? It is the fact that it crushes in an orderly manner that provides the protection. That does not prove that helmets prevent head injuries, but I hate to see the wrong arguments used. |
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Leo Lichtman Wrote: "AustinMN" wrote: Do you honestly believe that a 50 cent piece of Styrofoam that can be crushed with a finger would protect a skull (clip) ^^^^^^^^^^^^ I honestly believe that a properly shaped Styrofoam surround is capable of protecting what is within it. That is why I drive home with eggs in a Styrofoam container, and why most delicate products are packaged by the manufacturers in Styrofoam. Are you aware that almost all car bumpers are now made of such foam? It is the fact that it crushes in an orderly manner that provides the protection. That does not prove that helmets prevent head injuries, but I hate to see the wrong arguments used. Agreed. I was hit by a motorcycle two years ago and the indent in the helmet was better there then in my head. Last week I was hit by a car turning left right in front of me and I could not brake fast enough without hitting the car. The woman did not stop even though she knew she hit me. My other rider and a car chased her and stopped her. As I fell to the left my head was hit by her rear wheel and with the helmet on I feel I was saved a bit. I lost some meat and damage to the bike but I am alive. I am from the Gold Coast in Australia and we have to wear helmets. I have been riding for years and no matter what you cannot expect the unexpected so by wearing helmets it does help the unexpected. I do believe in helmets. Larry -- larryaus |
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larryaus wrote in message ...
Leo Lichtman Wrote: "AustinMN" wrote: Do you honestly believe that a 50 cent piece of Styrofoam that can be crushed with a finger would protect a skull (clip) ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Agreed. I was hit by a motorcycle two years ago and the indent in the helmet was better there then in my head. Last week I was hit by a car turning left right in front of me and I could not brake fast enough without hitting the car. The woman did not stop even though she knew she hit me. My other rider and a car chased her and stopped her. As I fell to the left my head was hit by her rear wheel and with the helmet on What this newbie gets from all the accidents I am reading about is the following.....Stay in the park so you don't get killed or get hat hair from wearing a helmet. Not to be flip about all this, but all the accident stories make me feel as if riding a bike in traffic is not worth it. I am too old to die this young. I made it to age 50.....I'd like to keep going. http://hometown.aol.com/lbuset/ |
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On 9 Nov 2004 05:08:54 -0800, Maggie quoth:
What this newbie gets from all the accidents I am reading about is the following.....Stay in the park so you don't get killed or get hat hair from wearing a helmet. Not to be flip about all this, but all the accident stories make me feel as if riding a bike in traffic is not worth it. I am too old to die this young. I made it to age 50.....I'd like to keep going. Riding in a car is going to kill you much sooner than riding a bike. Having "hat hair" beats having "wind-hair", IMHO. bkr |
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"Maggie" wrote in message om... larryaus wrote in message ... Leo Lichtman Wrote: "AustinMN" wrote: Do you honestly believe that a 50 cent piece of Styrofoam that can be crushed with a finger would protect a skull (clip) ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Agreed. I was hit by a motorcycle two years ago and the indent in the helmet was better there then in my head. Last week I was hit by a car turning left right in front of me and I could not brake fast enough without hitting the car. The woman did not stop even though she knew she hit me. My other rider and a car chased her and stopped her. As I fell to the left my head was hit by her rear wheel and with the helmet on What this newbie gets from all the accidents I am reading about is the following.....Stay in the park so you don't get killed or get hat hair from wearing a helmet. Not to be flip about all this, but all the accident stories make me feel as if riding a bike in traffic is not worth it. I am too old to die this young. I made it to age 50.....I'd like to keep going. http://hometown.aol.com/lbuset/ Maggie, Here's a bit of confusing perspective. This is the dialog that took place between me and the ER physician after the ambulance delivered me there. Physician: "You're very lucky to be alive. Were it not for the incredible shape you're in, you wouldn't be. Me: "Indeed, the bike is responsible for the shape I'm in." Bob C. |
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Leo Lichtman wrote:
"AustinMN" wrote: Do you honestly believe that a 50 cent piece of Styrofoam that can be crushed with a finger would protect a skull (clip) ^^^^^^^^^^^^ I honestly believe that a properly shaped Styrofoam surround is capable of protecting what is within it. That is why I drive home with eggs in a Styrofoam container, and why most delicate products are packaged by the manufacturers in Styrofoam. Are you aware that almost all car bumpers are now made of such foam? It is the fact that it crushes in an orderly manner that provides the protection. That does not prove that helmets prevent head injuries, but I hate to see the wrong arguments used. If you hate to see the wrong argument used, why did you go so far out of your way to divorce the comment from it's context (even to the point of snipping it mid-sentence)? I have no doubt that a Styrofoam hat can protect one's head from what it's designed to protect it from...scrapes and bruises, maybe a mild concussion. But the context of my statement was where someone's brains had been forced out of their skull. Expecting a foam hat to protect against that is like expecting an egg carton to protect the eggs from someone stomping on them. Austin -- I'm pedaling as fast as I durn well please! There are no X characters in my address |
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"AustinMN" wrote in
: Leo Lichtman wrote: "AustinMN" wrote: Do you honestly believe that a 50 cent piece of Styrofoam that can be crushed with a finger would protect a skull (clip) ^^^^^^^^^^^^ I honestly believe that a properly shaped Styrofoam surround is capable of protecting what is within it. That is why I drive home with eggs in a Styrofoam container, and why most delicate products are packaged by the manufacturers in Styrofoam. Are you aware that almost all car bumpers are now made of such foam? It is the fact that it crushes in an orderly manner that provides the protection. That does not prove that helmets prevent head injuries, but I hate to see the wrong arguments used. If you hate to see the wrong argument used, why did you go so far out of your way to divorce the comment from it's context (even to the point of snipping it mid-sentence)? I have no doubt that a Styrofoam hat can protect one's head from what it's designed to protect it from...scrapes and bruises, maybe a mild concussion. But the context of my statement was where someone's brains had been forced out of their skull. Expecting a foam hat to protect against that is like expecting an egg carton to protect the eggs from someone stomping on them. Austin Wear your helmet and shut, Austin! |
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"AustinMN" wrote: If you hate to see the wrong argument used, why did you go so far out of your way to divorce the comment from it's context (even to the point of snipping it mid-sentence? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ My snipping was not intended to alter the meaning, nor do I think it did. I prefer responses to be focussed on the point being responded to--I hate to wade through the entire thread over and over again as I attempt to find what is new at the end. Perhaps some others in this group would like to comment on this. |
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Leo Lichtman wrote:
"AustinMN" wrote: If you hate to see the wrong argument used, why did you go so far out of your way to divorce the comment from it's context (even to the point of snipping it mid-sentence? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ My snipping was not intended to alter the meaning, nor do I think it did. First, you broke the thread (so that it becomes difficult for others to find my original post (and learn what I actually said). Then you claim that your clipped quote: Do you honestly believe that a 50 cent piece of Styrofoam that can be crushed with a finger would protect a skull has the same intent as my actual statement: Do you honestly believe that a 50 cent piece of Styrofoam that can be crushed with a finger would protect a skull (which, by the way, is many, many times harder than the Styrofoam hat) from that kind of trauma? The inappropriate clip makes it sound like I am claiming helmets can't protect one's skull. What I'm actually claiming is that a Styrofoam helmet won't protect a skull from a trauma capable of causing a person's brains to be squeezed out of that skull. I prefer responses to be focussed on the point being responded to--I hate to wade through the entire thread over and over again as I attempt to find what is new at the end. This is valid, but this is not what you did. You invented a point that was not even there by surgically altering the sentence, removing the context and then responding to that. Perhaps some others in this group would like to comment on this. Yes, indeed. I'd like to hear what others have to say. Austin -- I'm pedaling as fast as I durn well please! There are no X characters in my address |
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