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Old August 6th 06, 05:12 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Randall Schulz
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Hi,

If after the adjudication of the banned substance allegation against
Landis has run its course and if it is upheld, how will the winner of the
2006 Tour de France be determined?

Will they have to recompute all the times and points awarded throughout
the race as if Landis had never participated? Or do they just give the
Yellow Jersey to the current number two, Oscar Pereiro, and likewise move
everyone up one in the general classification?


RandyS
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Old August 6th 06, 06:29 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Randall Schulz wrote:
Hi,

If after the adjudication of the banned substance allegation against
Landis has run its course and if it is upheld, how will the winner of the
2006 Tour de France be determined?

Will they have to recompute all the times and points awarded throughout
the race as if Landis had never participated?


Points? Landis wasn't in the running for the points competition.

Or do they just give the
Yellow Jersey to the current number two, Oscar Pereiro, and likewise move
everyone up one in the general classification?


They could adjust the time bonuses but it probably won't change anything
between Pereiro and Kloden.

Greg

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Old August 6th 06, 07:17 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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At Sunday 06 August 2006 10:29 in rec.bicycles.tech G.T. wrote:

Randall Schulz wrote:
Hi,

If after the adjudication of the banned substance allegation against
Landis has run its course and if it is upheld, how will the winner of
the 2006 Tour de France be determined?

Will they have to recompute all the times and points awarded throughout
the race as if Landis had never participated?


Points? Landis wasn't in the running for the points competition.

Or do they just give the
Yellow Jersey to the current number two, Oscar Pereiro, and likewise
move everyone up one in the general classification?


They could adjust the time bonuses but it probably won't change anything
between Pereiro and Kloden.


Right. Time bonuses is what I meant, not points. According to
http://www.velonews.com/tour2006/results/articles/10554.0.html, 32
seconds separate Kloden from Pereiro.

Would individual stage win reassignments only be done for stages that
Landis won, or for all of them?


Greg


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Old August 6th 06, 07:56 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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In article ,
"G.T." wrote:

Landis has run its course and if it is upheld, how will the winner of the
2006 Tour de France be determined?


Simple: everybody is bumped up one notch. The real beneficiaries will be
the 2nd, 3rd and 4th, since they will see a bigger check. The Tour
winner gets 450,000 Euros.

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Old August 6th 06, 08:08 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Randall Schulz wrote:
At Sunday 06 August 2006 10:29 in rec.bicycles.tech G.T. wrote:


Randall Schulz wrote:

Hi,

If after the adjudication of the banned substance allegation against
Landis has run its course and if it is upheld, how will the winner of
the 2006 Tour de France be determined?

Will they have to recompute all the times and points awarded throughout
the race as if Landis had never participated?


Points? Landis wasn't in the running for the points competition.


Or do they just give the
Yellow Jersey to the current number two, Oscar Pereiro, and likewise
move everyone up one in the general classification?


They could adjust the time bonuses but it probably won't change anything
between Pereiro and Kloden.



Right. Time bonuses is what I meant, not points. According to
http://www.velonews.com/tour2006/results/articles/10554.0.html, 32
seconds separate Kloden from Pereiro.

Would individual stage win reassignments only be done for stages that
Landis won, or for all of them?


What matters is the difference in placings between Pereiro and Kloden.
If Pereiro and Kloden finished 2-3 behind Floyd on some intermediate
sprints, which I don't think they did, and similarly I doubt there were
any/many relevant differences at the end of the stages.

Greg
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Old August 6th 06, 10:19 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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In article ,
"G.T." wrote:

What matters is the difference in placings between Pereiro and Kloden.
If Pereiro and Kloden finished 2-3 behind Floyd on some intermediate


it's already computed and factored in the final results. they will not
change anything, except bumping up everybody one notch.

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Old August 7th 06, 02:35 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 09:12:29 -0700, Randall Schulz
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Or do they just give the
Yellow Jersey to the current number two, Oscar Pereiro,


That.

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Old August 7th 06, 06:51 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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waxbytes wrote:
They will only have to recalculate from stage 17 to the finish. It
will be done as if Floyd never started on the stage he was caught
doping on. Other than everyone moving up a place there might be an
adjustment of the polka dot jersey standings since Landis snagged a
bunch of KOM points in the 17th stage.


Nice try, but Bzzzt. Wrong.


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Old August 7th 06, 02:04 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Randall Schulz wrote:
Hi,

If after the adjudication of the banned substance allegation against
Landis has run its course and if it is upheld, how will the winner of the
2006 Tour de France be determined?

Will they have to recompute all the times and points awarded throughout
the race as if Landis had never participated? Or do they just give the
Yellow Jersey to the current number two, Oscar Pereiro, and likewise move
everyone up one in the general classification?


What you said...number 2 becomes number 1, etc....


RandyS


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Old August 7th 06, 05:02 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Bill Sornson
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Qui si parla Campagnolo wrote:

... ...number 2 becomes number 1, etc....


Also happens if you drink the water in TJ.

Bill "slow morning" S.


 




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