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  #21  
Old April 5th 19, 01:09 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
JNugent[_10_]
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Default 6 foot tall scumbag cyclist hospitalises OAP

On 04/04/2019 19:54, TMS320 wrote:
On 04/04/2019 17:01, JNugent wrote:
On 04/04/2019 09:09, TMS320 wrote:
On 04/04/2019 01:01, JNugent wrote:
On 03/04/2019 17:51, TMS320 wrote:

On 03/04/2019 16:18, JNugent wrote:
On 02/04/2019 15:28, TMS320 wrote:
On 02/04/2019 12:29, JNugent wrote:
On 02/04/2019 09:47, TMS320 wrote:
On 02/04/2019 01:35, JNugent wrote:
On 01/04/2019 21:02, TMS320 wrote:
On 01/04/2019 18:00, MrCheerful wrote:

There is something very wrong with the mental state of these
dangerous cyclists. Bring on the number plates and insurance
for cyclists.

https://metro.co.uk/2019/04/01/can-h...ement-9079827/





"pushed him into the pavement" reads as though the pensioner
was wandering about in the road.

As far as I know, my cycle insurance would only pay out if I
crash my bicycle into someone or some thing and it is my
fault. I doubt it covers me if I have a mental breakdown.

Motor insurance would cover a driver or motorcyclist in such
circumstances (the law demands that).

My policy only mentions cars, it does not mention body parts.

A common misapprehension. The vehicle is not the thing that is
insured. Although we routinely speak in terms of a vehicle being
insured, it is actually the driver and/or the owner who is
insured, this being clear within the insurer's wording of
pilicies, certificates, etc.

That much is known. You're not explaining how it works outside
the car.

What do you mean by "outside the car"?

What it says. Once you get out of your car you cease to be a driver
and become a pedestrian. Your car insurer is no longer interested
in your personal behaviour and you would have to go to your house
insurer.

So what?

How does that come into it? How and why is it an issue?

And I have to assume that you are using "car" as a synonym for
"motor vehicle".

"What is covered -
We will cover you for your legal liability to other people
arising from an accident which involves *your car* and..." etc.

Emphasis is theirs.

Yes... but so what?

The issue - raised by you, one might add - was whether cycle
insurance covers a cyclist for his legal liabilities to other
people arising from incidents which involve him and his bike. You
suggested that it might not. We know, on the other hand, that no
such arises with compulsory motor insurance.

Oh dear. Then you haven't read (or, more likely, haven't
understood) the article. It describes a crash and the rider
returning to assault the OAP. There is no suggestion the bicycle
was used in the assault, ie, the cyclist had turned into a pedestrian.

No-one can insure themselves against criminal sanctions. Who
envisaged or suggested that it is possible?


YOU DID!


That is a lie.

I did the exact opposite.

Ah, the messsage has finally sunk in but you don't want to admit it.


Not for the first time, you have confused yourself into thinking that
two separate things are the same thing.

Nothing else would explain your diversion into what is or isn't
insured once an individual is no longer acting as a driver (or
cyclist) and trying to compare one sort of insurance with another.

Just for clarity's sake: civil liability (which is what is insured
against) is not the same thing as criminal liability or the sanctions
which might be applied because of it. You can't insure against the
imposition of judicial punishment for an offence and it would be an
offence, at least potentially, for a non-driver or non-cyclist to
cause damage or injury whilst "on foot". Why you ever raised that as
an issue ("You're not explaining how it works outside the car") is a
mystery.

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  #22  
Old April 5th 19, 08:12 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
TMS320
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Default 6 foot tall scumbag cyclist hospitalises OAP

On 05/04/2019 01:09, JNugent wrote:
On 04/04/2019 19:54, TMS320 wrote:
On 04/04/2019 17:01, JNugent wrote:



On 01/04/2019 21:02, TMS320 wrote:
As far as I know, my cycle insurance would
only pay out if I crash my bicycle into someone
or some thing and it is my fault. I doubt it
covers me if I have a mental breakdown.


On 02/04/2019 01:35, JNugent wrote:
Motor insurance would cover a driver or
motorcyclist in such circumstances (the law
demands that).


On 04/04/2019 01:01, JNugent wrote:
No-one can insure themselves against criminal sanctions. Who
envisaged or suggested that it is possible?



YOU DID!


That is a lie.


As too often, you cannot remember who wrote what.
  #23  
Old April 5th 19, 12:15 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
JNugent[_10_]
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Default 6 foot tall scumbag cyclist hospitalises OAP

On 05/04/2019 08:12, TMS320 wrote:
On 05/04/2019 01:09, JNugent wrote:
On 04/04/2019 19:54, TMS320 wrote:
On 04/04/2019 17:01, JNugent wrote:



On 01/04/2019 21:02, TMS320 wrote:
As far as I know, my cycle insurance would
only pay out if I crash my bicycle into someone
or some thing and it is my fault. I doubt it covers me if I
have a mental breakdown.


On 02/04/2019 01:35, JNugent wrote:
Motor insurance would cover a driver or motorcyclist in such
circumstances (the law demands that).


On 04/04/2019 01:01, JNugent wrote:
No-one can insure themselves against criminal sanctions. Who
envisaged or suggested that it is possible?



YOU DID!


That is a lie.


As too often, you cannot remember who wrote what.


I did not suggest that civil liability and criminal liability are the
same thing, or that insurance can mitigate against criminal sanctionas.
That was you, and I pointed out your error. You are lying, again.

  #24  
Old April 5th 19, 01:11 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
TMS320
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Default 6 foot tall scumbag cyclist hospitalises OAP

On 05/04/2019 12:15, JNugent wrote:
On 05/04/2019 08:12, TMS320 wrote:
On 05/04/2019 01:09, JNugent wrote:
On 04/04/2019 19:54, TMS320 wrote:
On 04/04/2019 17:01, JNugent wrote:


On 01/04/2019 21:02, TMS320 wrote:
As far as I know, my cycle insurance would
only pay out if I crash my bicycle into someone
or some thing and it is my fault. I doubt it covers me if
I have a mental breakdown.


On 02/04/2019 01:35, JNugent wrote:
Motor insurance would cover a driver or motorcyclist in
such circumstances (the law demands that).


On 04/04/2019 01:01, JNugent wrote:
No-one can insure themselves against criminal sanctions. Who
envisaged or suggested that it is possible?


YOU DID!

That is a lie.


As too often, you cannot remember who wrote what.


I did not suggest that civil liability and criminal liability are the
same thing, or that insurance can mitigate against criminal sanctionas.
That was you, and I pointed out your error. You are lying, again.


You really are a stupid person.
  #25  
Old April 5th 19, 02:18 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Mr Pounder Esquire
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Default 6 foot tall scumbag cyclist hospitalises OAP


"TMS320" wrote in message
...
On 05/04/2019 12:15, JNugent wrote:
On 05/04/2019 08:12, TMS320 wrote:
On 05/04/2019 01:09, JNugent wrote:
On 04/04/2019 19:54, TMS320 wrote:
On 04/04/2019 17:01, JNugent wrote:

On 01/04/2019 21:02, TMS320 wrote:
As far as I know, my cycle insurance would
only pay out if I crash my bicycle into someone
or some thing and it is my fault. I doubt it covers me if I
have a mental breakdown.

On 02/04/2019 01:35, JNugent wrote:
Motor insurance would cover a driver or motorcyclist in such
circumstances (the law demands that).

On 04/04/2019 01:01, JNugent wrote:
No-one can insure themselves against criminal sanctions. Who
envisaged or suggested that it is possible?

YOU DID!

That is a lie.

As too often, you cannot remember who wrote what.


I did not suggest that civil liability and criminal liability are the
same thing, or that insurance can mitigate against criminal sanctionas.
That was you, and I pointed out your error. You are lying, again.


You really are a stupid person.



 




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