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Any of You Do Trikes -- in A Metro Area, Too??
Dave Larrington wrote: In article .com, Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman ) wrote: Keep in mind that the aforementioned forum is moderated (i.e. censored). Only to keep the monkeys out. Without the knowledge of all the actions of the BROL moderators, this statement can not be proven. Although often obnoxious, the "Monkeys" are sometimes the only ones who say what needs to be said. The court jester's function was more than mere entertainment. -- Tom Sherman - Post Free or Die! |
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Any of You Do Trikes -- in A Metro Area, Too??
Rich wrote: Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote: Dave Larrington wrote: Keep in mind that the aforementioned forum is moderated (i.e. censored). Only to keep the monkeys out. Although often obnoxious, the "Monkeys" are sometimes the only ones who say what needs to be said. The court jester's function was more than mere entertainment. Spoken like a true monkey. Hehe...I have to agree with Tom on this one. The British Parliament is certainly a lot more interesting to watch than our Congress! Oddly enough, my tolerance only applies to usenet and other such fora for debates and/or informational exchange. I don't like even seeing ghetto types in my neighborhood...what's with these fools wearing earrings and Aunt Jemima do-rags? Worst of all is seeing all the middle-aged "cool daddies"...especially if they're white! Unfortunately we can't killfile -- or just plain kill -- these eyesores and eyebores, and in NYC, they're really everywhere. I guess I myself don't mind crap on usenet since I can choose to ignore them, whereas crap on TV or out there in the world, in real life, you have to deal with and so are very frustrating. Which is another reason I love biking -- nothing like being stuck on a bus or train with ghetto monkeys. Usenet monkeys are at least fun at times. Ooo ooo aah ahh! |
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Any of You Do Trikes -- in A Metro Area, Too??
Rich ? wrote: Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote: Dave Larrington wrote: Keep in mind that the aforementioned forum is moderated (i.e. censored). Only to keep the monkeys out. Although often obnoxious, the "Monkeys" are sometimes the only ones who say what needs to be said. The court jester's function was more than mere entertainment. Spoken like a true monkey. Well, I do live in Chicagoland and I have a couple of lowracers... -- J. Sunset |
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bentirderonline [was: Any of You Do Trikes]
"Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" wrote
Jon Meinecke wrote: People often mistake USENET newsgroups as sources for information. Trust the "information" here, at your peril, indeed! It is possible for an intelligent and informed person to sort the wheat from the chaff, and with some research the general credibility of any regular Usenet poster can be determined with a suitable level of accuracy. USENET newsgroups are communities. They vary widely in content and reliability and inherently dubious as reliable information sources. An expectation that ARBR or any newsgroup represents all views or a meritocracy of free ideas is not realistic. Most everyone here "self censors", and participation is clearly self selected. Some choose to post not at all, anymore or ever,-- not because their opinions are uninformed or credibility questionable. On a moderated/censored forum, a non-moderator does not know what has been suppressed, and furthermore, no one knows what has been self-censored out of the fear of being banned from the forum. Once again, the quality and integrity of the moderation is key,-- the general credibility, as you say. If one understands the rules and trusts their implementation, then the content of moderated forums (which includes most every medium) can be calibrated. A properly designed kitchen, used cooperatively, can accommodate collaboration of quite a few chefs without overheating. Usenet is exactly that, for the intelligent reader with proper analytical skills. USENET, indeed, like the kitchen is what you/we make it and make in it. There are moderated and self-moderate USENET groups. There are groups where flames, vulgar, obscene and abusive trolling is the norm. There are many groups in the middle. To presume that people who choose to participate in other forums rather than USENET and ARBR, do so mainly for heat avoidance, ignores other and more credible, intelligent reasons. Be careful of the fallacy of circumstantial ad hominem. Jon Meinecke |
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NYC XYZ wrote: Peter Clinch wrote: Maybe I'm reading that a different way than you intended... I saw it as "appeal more to women than men", where maybe you meant "trikes appeal to women more than bikes". Yes. My sample base of lady 'benters is far too small It's okay; you can whisper -- I won't tell! You need to get out to the left coast. After looking at the panorama taken at the Recumbent Retreat: http://www.recumbentretreat.org/ , I'd guess that the ridership is about 30% female. Jeff |
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bentirderonline [was: Any of You Do Trikes]
"Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" wrote in message oups.com... [...] It is possible for an intelligent and informed person to sort the wheat from the chaff, and with some research the general credibility of any regular Usenet poster can be determined with a suitable level of accuracy. You bet! I determined early on that Mr. Sherman was OK on recumbent topics and a total idiot on most every other subject under the sun. Same goes for Mr. Meinecke. Once you have got this sorted out, you can indeed separate the wheat from the chaff. On a moderated/censored forum, a non-moderator does not know what has been suppressed, and furthermore, no one knows what has been self-censored out of the fear of being banned from the forum. The main thing a moderated forum will do is keep all the idiots, morons and imbeciles away. I think 99% of mankind would prefer it that way. It is only a few of us who want to play games on USENET. I have said this before and I will now say it again. Anyone who comes to USENET for any reason other than to be entertained and amused is a blooming idiot. Mr. Sherman and Mr. Meinecke think they can provide instruction to the rest of us dumbbells, but all they are doing is indulging their egos, the same as I. But I am having more fun than they are. That, incidentally, is why I am so Great and why they are such dwarfs! Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota PS. Can anyone tell me why USENET should be capitalized as Mr. Meinecke does it? |
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bentirderonline [was: Any of You Do Trikes]
"Jon Meinecke" wrote in message .. . "Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" wrote Jon Meinecke wrote: People often mistake USENET newsgroups as sources for information. Trust the "information" here, at your peril, indeed! It is possible for an intelligent and informed person to sort the wheat from the chaff, and with some research the general credibility of any regular Usenet poster can be determined with a suitable level of accuracy. USENET newsgroups are communities. They vary widely in content and reliability and inherently dubious as reliable information sources. An expectation that ARBR or any newsgroup represents all views or a meritocracy of free ideas is not realistic. Most everyone here "self censors", and participation is clearly self selected. Some choose to post not at all, anymore or ever,-- not because their opinions are uninformed or credibility questionable. I agree totally with Mr. Meinecke on the above statement. Ed Gin proved once and for all that newsgroups without any exceptions are for idiots, scoundrels and criminals. This was something that Mr. Meinecke could do absolutely nothing about except commiserate on it. One wonders what Mr. Meinecke is still doing here on ARBR other than honoring us with his august presence. Not happy on BROL? On a moderated/censored forum, a non-moderator does not know what has been suppressed, and furthermore, no one knows what has been self-censored out of the fear of being banned from the forum. Once again, the quality and integrity of the moderation is key,-- the general credibility, as you say. If one understands the rules and trusts their implementation, then the content of moderated forums (which includes most every medium) can be calibrated. I would not be caught dead on BROL because Mr. Ball, who owns the forum, is a liberal nut and thinks that conservatives should not be posting to cycling groups. But hey, if you are a liberal nut you will be welcome there. Apparently words like quality and integrity can mean anything you want them to mean. Mr. Ball has absolutely no credibility with me. I have calibrated him right out of existence. A properly designed kitchen, used cooperatively, can accommodate collaboration of quite a few chefs without overheating. Usenet is exactly that, for the intelligent reader with proper analytical skills. USENET, indeed, like the kitchen is what you/we make it and make in it. There are moderated and self-moderate USENET groups. There are groups where flames, vulgar, obscene and abusive trolling is the norm. There are many groups in the middle. Where the hell was Mr. Meinecke when this group was being destroyed by Ed Gin. He was hiding under the bed. I frankly do not want to hear what this coward has to say about anything. He is lower than a skunk and is a weasel besides. Why the hell doesn't he go to BROL and stay there with all the other liberal scum bags. Old Cletus Lee of Texas will welcome him to the club. To presume that people who choose to participate in other forums rather than USENET and ARBR, do so mainly for heat avoidance, ignores other and more credible, intelligent reasons. Be careful of the fallacy of circumstantial ad hominem. All Mr. Meinecke ever knows what to do when he encounters anyone with whom he disagrees is to kill file the poor slob. I myself have never recovered from this affront to my honor and dignity. I propose pistols at dawn down by the riverside. Mr. Sherman can be your second and I will dragoon some drunken yahoo from the local bar to be my second. Mr. Meineke will have to come to SW Minnesota as I am no longer up for any travel. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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Any of You Do Trikes -- in A Metro Area, Too??
"NYC XYZ" wrote in message
ups.com... GaryG wrote: Are those "girls" about 5 years old? Or, are they closer to 85? Those seem to be the typical ages for females interested in tricycles. GG That too! But why did you say "hell no" so vociferously for? Because I hope to never ride a tricycle. Why would I want to ride something that's heavy and slow, when a 2-wheeled bike is so much faster, and more fun? GG |
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Any of You Do Trikes -- in A Metro Area, Too??
GaryG wrote:
Because I hope to never ride a tricycle. Why would I want to ride something that's heavy and slow, when a 2-wheeled bike is so much faster, and more fun? I think most of those who've ridden both would say the trike is more fun. Rich |
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Any of You Do Trikes -- in A Metro Area, Too??
In article , GaryG
) wrote: "NYC XYZ" wrote in message ups.com... GaryG wrote: Are those "girls" about 5 years old? Or, are they closer to 85? Those seem to be the typical ages for females interested in tricycles. GG That too! But why did you say "hell no" so vociferously for? Because I hope to never ride a tricycle. Why would I want to ride something that's heavy and slow, when a 2-wheeled bike is so much faster, and more fun? Just wait until you come round a downhill corner at 70 km/h and find the road ahead covered in Skog(tm). That extra wheel suddenly becomes /very/ attractive. -- Dave Larrington - http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/ Electricity comes from other planets. |
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