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On Friday, June 30, 2017 at 5:36:52 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
On Sat, 01 Jul 2017 01:49:40 +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote: Doug Landau wrote: It should be cleaned in the sense pleasant to look at and hold, but also in the sense no gravel in the machinery, and yes lubed as well. according to whom? ... what do you mean? Today I did the Yes cure for a 4" adjustable wrench and a Stanley/Utility knife. Actually it *is* a Stanley, "Made in Englad". Looks similar to this - perhaps because that's what it is https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ey_knife_1.jpg This method has worked great! I guess I like it fine - so far. I'm a bit confused with all this frantic tool cleaning as most mechanics I am acquainted with just wipe their tools off with a rag at the end of a working and put them back in the tool box. I've been doing this for many years now and so far my tools all appear to be "clean" without any special cleaning activity. I guess I was working on my lawn mower a couple of years ago when I was still concussed. While cleaning up the yard yesterday I discovered an 8" crescent wrench. It had been outside under an overhang probably for 6 or 7 years and worked like new. No rust because it hadn't been in direct rain. But it was Sear's brand. I think I'll have to clean it off a little but not a big deal. |
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On Sun, 02 Jul 2017 01:05:45 +0200, Emanuel Berg
wrote: writes: I guess I was working on my lawn mower a couple of years ago when I was still concussed. While cleaning up the yard yesterday I discovered an 8" crescent wrench. It had been outside under an overhang probably for 6 or 7 years and worked like new. No rust because it hadn't been in direct rain. But it was Sear's brand. I think I'll have to clean it off a little but not a big deal. Cool Another example where supposedly unrelated activity lead to unexpected gains. Another tool that benefits from cleaning is the combination plier. Often it is rusted (?) shut but flush it a couple of times with WD-40 and work the handles back and forth and the pivot will just pour a steady flow of dirt liquid until it is good as new. If it is rusted closed then quite obviously you aren't using it enough :-) -- Cheers, John B. |
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John B. writes:
If it is rusted closed then quite obviously you aren't using it enough :-) OK, "rusted close" (not "shut") it is. Thank you. Well, obviously that never happens to my tools, and I only have to clean them once That said, altho the combination plier is probably my favorite tool, I seldom use it. To cut wires and housings I have an array of different size cutters and typically I use larger and enforced ones for that. The curved and flat part of the plier don't have that many applications on bikes in particular, at least few that cannot be done better with other, specific-purpose tools. But it is still good to have a couple lying around. I love to have the right gear, but I also love thinking of me as being ready for anything Compared to combination spanners which I use all the time I think the appeal of the combination plier is the range of applications, some of which you have no idea of before the situation arises. It is one of the things I'd always bring to the field, along with some cord to make it "fixed" Altho both tools have the word "combination" in their names the combination spanner appears pretty much locked in to rotating and holding nuts - a vital function for sure, but perhaps nothing that triggers the imagination of the mind. Also the plier is more exciting because it has moving parts -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 |
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On Mon, 03 Jul 2017 05:38:34 +0200, Emanuel Berg
wrote: John B. writes: If it is rusted closed then quite obviously you aren't using it enough :-) OK, "rusted close" (not "shut") it is. Thank you. Well, obviously that never happens to my tools, and I only have to clean them once That said, altho the combination plier is probably my favorite tool, I seldom use it. To cut wires and housings I have an array of different size cutters and typically I use larger and enforced ones for that. The problem with combination pliers is just that. They are a combination and single use tools tend to be far more efficient. Combinations pliers aren't very good for cutting wires, whether large or small, they don't make a very effective wrench, whether for pipes or nuts. I had a similar discussion about those silly "Leatherman" tools. They provide a mediocre tool for multiple purposes and a superior tool for nothing. The curved and flat part of the plier don't have that many applications on bikes in particular, at least few that cannot be done better with other, specific-purpose tools. But it is still good to have a couple lying around. I love to have the right gear, but I also love thinking of me as being ready for anything Compared to combination spanners which I use all the time I think the appeal of the combination plier is the range of applications, some of which you have no idea of before the situation arises. It is one of the things I'd always bring to the field, along with some cord to make it "fixed" Altho both tools have the word "combination" in their names the combination spanner appears pretty much locked in to rotating and holding nuts - a vital function for sure, but perhaps nothing that triggers the imagination of the mind. Also the plier is more exciting because it has moving parts -- Cheers, John B. |
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John B. writes:
I had a similar discussion about those silly "Leatherman" tools. They provide a mediocre tool for multiple purposes and a superior tool for nothing. The appeal is not what they do but what they could do. They are easy to bring and relaxing to fiddle with and talk about. It is the inherent adventure, which perhaps most often does not materialize. No one (I hope) claims they are for everyday work! -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 |
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On Mon, 03 Jul 2017 07:48:51 +0200, Emanuel Berg
wrote: John B. writes: I had a similar discussion about those silly "Leatherman" tools. They provide a mediocre tool for multiple purposes and a superior tool for nothing. The appeal is not what they do but what they could do. They are easy to bring and relaxing to fiddle with and talk about. It is the inherent adventure, which perhaps most often does not materialize. No one (I hope) claims they are for everyday work! I had a friend who was a yachtsman. He always carried a Leatherman in a little belt holster. But when he had a problem on his boat he would always get me to fix it :-) -- Cheers, John B. |
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John B. writes:
I had a friend who was a yachtsman. He always carried a Leatherman in a little belt holster. But when he had a problem on his boat he would always get me to fix it :-) Sure, that's pathetic. I don't have a Leatherman myself but I have several other such foldable knives and tools. One is a SOG and in my youth when we smoked we used it to place the ingredient on the blade and heat it up. Every time we did it is was like a competition who could come up with the stupidest joke on "SOG", which is also a neo-Nazi slogan (zionist occupation government, spelled with an "s" in Swedish). So I know these tools can actually be quite funny -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 |
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On Mon, 03 Jul 2017 09:42:39 +0200, Emanuel Berg
wrote: John B. writes: I had a friend who was a yachtsman. He always carried a Leatherman in a little belt holster. But when he had a problem on his boat he would always get me to fix it :-) Sure, that's pathetic. I don't have a Leatherman myself but I have several other such foldable knives and tools. One is a SOG and in my youth when we smoked we used it to place the ingredient on the blade and heat it up. Every time we did it is was like a competition who could come up with the stupidest joke on "SOG", which is also a neo-Nazi slogan (zionist occupation government, spelled with an "s" in Swedish). So I know these tools can actually be quite funny One can only speculate on what you were "smoking" that you heated on a piece of metal and sniffed the fumes :-( -- Cheers, John B. |
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John B. wrote:
One can only speculate on what you were "smoking" that you heated on a piece of metal and sniffed the fumes :-( OK, maybe I shouldn't have mention it. Are drugs taboo here? But it was completely undramatic, let me tell you. The best ride I ever had was in the middle of a nigh, a long empty city ride under the Hofmann influence. And the worst - must have been some time with heavy/immature drinking. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 |
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