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Old July 9th 17, 06:06 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Jeff Liebermann
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http://hotair.com/archives/2017/07/08/day-3-g20-protests-looting-burning-vandalizing/
So, what does this have to do with bicycles? If you watch the video
of the cleanup, there are quite a few burned out and trashed bicycles
visible in the wreckage:
https://youtu.be/cepF2UKnTy8
Do anti-capitalists have something against bicycles?

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Old July 9th 17, 10:44 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 22:06:48 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote:

http://hotair.com/archives/2017/07/08/day-3-g20-protests-looting-burning-vandalizing/
So, what does this have to do with bicycles? If you watch the video
of the cleanup, there are quite a few burned out and trashed bicycles
visible in the wreckage:
https://youtu.be/cepF2UKnTy8
Do anti-capitalists have something against bicycles?


The news article I read referred to them as anti-global protesters.
Perhaps they were protesting against Chinese made bicycles :-)
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Old July 9th 17, 01:19 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Jeff Liebermann wrote:
http://hotair.com/archives/2017/07/08/day-3-g20-protests-looting-burning-vandalizing/
So, what does this have to do with bicycles?


It has to do with soot and rubber. A bicycle is a bit easier to move than a
car wheel. (And everybody knows that a burning bicycle wheel is only
producing climate-friendly smoke.)

If you watch the video
of the cleanup, there are quite a few burned out and trashed bicycles
visible in the wreckage:
https://youtu.be/cepF2UKnTy8


What a sorry level of metallurgical experimentation -- and they probably
weren't even Swedes ;-O

Do anti-capitalists have something against bicycles?


Really just another expression of self-hatred and limo envy.
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Old July 9th 17, 02:18 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 1:06:59 AM UTC-4, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
http://hotair.com/archives/2017/07/08/day-3-g20-protests-looting-burning-vandalizing/
So, what does this have to do with bicycles? If you watch the video
of the cleanup, there are quite a few burned out and trashed bicycles
visible in the wreckage:
https://youtu.be/cepF2UKnTy8
Do anti-capitalists have something against bicycles?

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D
http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558


donated ...

as with Venezula ... ? I read the news but .....

The reality is prob interesting having a Euro origin ...

Fawkes leads to Richcare ?
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Old July 9th 17, 07:30 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 14:19:14 +0200, Sepp Ruf
wrote:

Jeff Liebermann wrote:
http://hotair.com/archives/2017/07/08/day-3-g20-protests-looting-burning-vandalizing/
So, what does this have to do with bicycles?


It has to do with soot and rubber. A bicycle is a bit easier to move than a
car wheel. (And everybody knows that a burning bicycle wheel is only
producing climate-friendly smoke.)

If you watch the video
of the cleanup, there are quite a few burned out and trashed bicycles
visible in the wreckage:
https://youtu.be/cepF2UKnTy8


What a sorry level of metallurgical experimentation -- and they probably
weren't even Swedes ;-O


When I was 17 years old, I lived and worked in Smog Angeles during the
Watts Riots:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watts_riots
The area was trashed, but not to the extent that I saw in the Hamburg
videos. The difference was that American rioters are more practical.
Instead of trashing and burning bicycles, American rioters would take
them home and either ride or sell them later. Looting is far more
practical than burning, and leaves less of a mess on the streets.
American rioters also fail to appreciate the symbolic importance of
book burning in the streets, and prefer instead to burn businesses and
official buildings. This also helps keep the streets comparatively
clear.

Judging by the video and the way they mishandled the bicycles, the
German riot police were not terribly interested in bicycle recycling
or repair.

Do anti-capitalists have something against bicycles?


Really just another expression of self-hatred and limo envy.


Maybe. I suspect that it's a product of too much capitalism, where
the real cost of bicycles is sufficiently low that rioters cannot be
bothered with stealing them. I assume that the rioters hadn't
considered that the success of capitalism had in some ways enabled
them to riot effectively and economically.

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Old July 9th 17, 08:32 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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aha ! reputed Marxists ... I acquired the idea they are anarchists. Maybe they have a five year plan ?

was good TV ?

Kropotkin Lives !
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Old July 9th 17, 09:20 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Sepp Ruf wrote:

What a sorry level of metallurgical
experimentation -- and they probably weren't
even Swedes ;-O


Don't count on it! I participated in the
protests against the G8 meeting in Heiligendamm
some 10 years ago. There was ultra-violence
there as well to be sure but in Hamburg they
seem to have taken it to the next level.

Heiligendamm was one of the most gorgeous
places I've ever seen on this Earth by the way.
And the excitement and physical fatigue made it
an almost euphoric experience.

I remember some guys waking me up in the middle
of the night in a forest. "You can't sleep
there", they said. "Why?", I asked, confused.
"Because you are sleeping on our map"

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Old July 9th 17, 10:33 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 4:20:54 PM UTC-4, Emanuel Berg wrote:
Sepp Ruf wrote:

What a sorry level of metallurgical
experimentation -- and they probably weren't
even Swedes ;-O


Don't count on it! I participated in the
protests against the G8 meeting in Heiligendamm
some 10 years ago. There was ultra-violence
there as well to be sure but in Hamburg they
seem to have taken it to the next level.

Heiligendamm was one of the most gorgeous
places I've ever seen on this Earth by the way.
And the excitement and physical fatigue made it
an almost euphoric experience.

I remember some guys waking me up in the middle
of the night in a forest. "You can't sleep
there", they said. "Why?", I asked, confused.
"Because you are sleeping on our map"

--
underground experts united
http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573


UMMM PAH PAH

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Old July 9th 17, 11:21 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Jeff Liebermann
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Default Hamburg G20 summit protests and bicycles

On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 12:32:38 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

reputed Marxists ...
I acquired the idea they are anarchists.


Karl Marx was not an anarchist. As Wikipedia offers:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism_and_Marxism
Marxism has tended to be a theoretical or analytical discourse
about revolutionary strategy.
Anarchism has tended to be an ethical discourse about
revolutionary practice.
Ummm... right.

Maybe they have a five year plan ?


That was the Communists starting in about 1928:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_five-year_plan_(Soviet_Union)
They gave up on the idea when they discovered that nobody in Russia
could afford a 5 year calendar.

was good TV ?


Although there was something resembling a TV starting in about 1928,
modern television didn't really take off until 1953, when RCA finally
figured out how to make NTSC function.

Kropotkin Lives !


He died in 1921. Quite an oddity for an anarchist as he was from a
wealthy land owning family. He does kinda look like a modern day
hipster:
https://www.google.com/search?q=kropotkin&tbm=isch





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Old July 10th 17, 02:42 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Sun, 09 Jul 2017 22:20:50 +0200, Emanuel Berg
wrote:

Sepp Ruf wrote:

What a sorry level of metallurgical
experimentation -- and they probably weren't
even Swedes ;-O


Don't count on it! I participated in the
protests against the G8 meeting in Heiligendamm
some 10 years ago. There was ultra-violence
there as well to be sure but in Hamburg they
seem to have taken it to the next level.


As an admitted "terrorist" can you tell us what the positive results
of your protest was?

Other then the gratuitous destruction of other people's property, that
is.
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