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Undercover police posing as cyclists catch trucker for driving tooclose to bike
A lorry driver has become one of the first people to be prosecuted for
driving too close to cyclists after being caught by a plain-clothed police biker. Officers posed as cyclists in Birmingham and the black country to try and catch drivers putting bikers lives at risk. The 60-year-old driver was taken to court and ordered to pay £1,038 in fines and costs. He was also given five points on his licence for the manoeuvre in Park Lane West, Tipton, last November after being found court at Birmingham Magistrates’ Court. He was among the first motorists in the country to be taken to court after the operation to protect cyclists from ‘close passes’. http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/12/underc...-bike-6772386/ |
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Undercover police posing as cyclists catch trucker for drivingtoo close to bike
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 11:03:40 +0100, Bod wrote:
A lorry driver has become one of the first people to be prosecuted for driving too close to cyclists after being caught by a plain-clothed police biker. Officers posed as cyclists in Birmingham and the black country to try and catch drivers putting bikers lives at risk. In what way is a policeman on a bicycle 'posed as' a cyclist, rather than being a cyclist? regards, Ian SMith -- |\ /| no .sig |o o| |/ \| |
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Undercover police posing as cyclists catch trucker for drivingtoo close to bike
On 12/07/2017 11:39, Ian Smith wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 11:03:40 +0100, Bod wrote: A lorry driver has become one of the first people to be prosecuted for driving too close to cyclists after being caught by a plain-clothed police biker. Officers posed as cyclists in Birmingham and the black country to try and catch drivers putting bikers lives at risk. In what way is a policeman on a bicycle 'posed as' a cyclist, rather than being a cyclist? regards, Ian SMith Blimey, is it national pedants day already! |
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Undercover police posing as cyclists catch trucker for drivingtoo close to bike
On 12/07/2017 11:03, Bod wrote:
A lorry driver has become one of the first people to be prosecuted for driving too close to cyclists after being caught by a plain-clothed police biker. Officers posed as cyclists in Birmingham and the black country to try and catch drivers putting bikers lives at risk. The 60-year-old driver was taken to court and ordered to pay £1,038 in fines and costs. He was also given five points on his licence for the manoeuvre in Park Lane West, Tipton, last November after being found court at Birmingham Magistrates’ Court. He was among the first motorists in the country to be taken to court after the operation to protect cyclists from ‘close passes’. http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/12/underc...-bike-6772386/ Can anyone quote a section of a Road Traffic Act which specifies this "1.5 metres"? Note also the quoted rules in the story: QUOTE: When overtaking motorists should give ‘at least’ as much room to cyclists and horse riders as they would another car, according to the Highway Code. ENDQUOTE And 1.5 metres is a fair bit more than another car will or can be given in many circumstances. Does this 1.5 meter "rule" (wherever it is alleged to come from) not apply when a cyclist pulls alongside a vehicle stopped at traffic lights? If not, why not? Surely the drivers of vehicles overtaken by cyclists have just as much right to expect the same safety margin and the same courtesy that cyclists expect from everyone else on the planet? QUOTE: Rules for all road users (including cyclists) If a driver is trying to overtake you, maintain a steady course and speed, *slowing* *down* if necessary to let the vehicle pass. *Never* obstruct drivers who wish to pass. ENDQUOTE |
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Undercover police posing as cyclists catch trucker for drivingtoo close to bike
On 12/07/2017 11:03, Bod wrote:
A lorry driver has become one of the first people to be prosecuted for driving too close to cyclists after being caught by a plain-clothed police biker. Officers posed as cyclists in Birmingham and the black country to try and catch drivers putting bikers lives at risk. The 60-year-old driver was taken to court and ordered to pay £1,038 in fines and costs. He was also given five points on his licence for the manoeuvre in Park Lane West, Tipton, last November after being found court at Birmingham Magistrates’ Court. He was among the first motorists in the country to be taken to court after the operation to protect cyclists from ‘close passes’. http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/12/underc...-bike-6772386/ Why don't the Police 'pose' as pedestrians to catch cyclists riding on pavements? Better yet, why aren't they focussing on violent offence and thefts? |
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Undercover police posing as cyclists catch trucker for driving too close to bike
Ian Smith wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 11:03:40 +0100, Bod wrote: A lorry driver has become one of the first people to be prosecuted for driving too close to cyclists after being caught by a plain-clothed police biker. Officers posed as cyclists in Birmingham and the black country to try and catch drivers putting bikers lives at risk. In what way is a policeman on a bicycle 'posed as' a cyclist, rather than being a cyclist? regards, Ian SMith Posing as a cyclist means that you ride a kid's toy with your mouth wide open and a gormless look on your face. Oh, and you also need to shave your legs ................. ffs. |
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Undercover police posing as cyclists catch trucker for drivingtoo close to bike
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 10:39:20 -0000 (UTC)
Ian Smith wrote: On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 11:03:40 +0100, Bod wrote: A lorry driver has become one of the first people to be prosecuted for driving too close to cyclists after being caught by a plain-clothed police biker. Officers posed as cyclists in Birmingham and the black country to try and catch drivers putting bikers lives at risk. In what way is a policeman on a bicycle 'posed as' a cyclist, rather than being a cyclist? That's what I thought. I imagine the officers chosen for this duty were already cyclists, and might even have been riding their own bikes. |
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Undercover police posing as cyclists catch trucker for drivingtoo close to bike
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 15:45:16 +0100
Incubus wrote: Why don't the Police 'pose' as pedestrians to catch cyclists riding on pavements? Because people riding bicycles inconsiderately on pavements are mostly just an annoyance that other people like to exaggerate - they rarely kill anyone, much more often a case of "nearly hit someone". Where it is an acknowledged problem, in places like Cambridge, they have occasional crack-downs on pavement cycling and bikes with no lights, but that's all it merits really. Better yet, why aren't they focussing on violent offence and thefts? Getting hit by a ton or thirty of metal can be pretty violent. It regularly causes serious injury or death to people who were doing nothing wrong (and others who may have contributed to their own misfortune, but still mostly didn't deserve it). Don't forget it's not just cyclists, but also pedestrians and motorists, who are regularly hit by truck drivers that didn't leave enough room or allow for their blind-spots at junctions, crossings and even on the motorway. I also note that two of the drivers stopped in the W.Mids campaign had their licenses immediately suspended at the roadside because they couldn't see well enough to be driving - that has to benefit every other road user regardless of mode. |
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Undercover police posing as cyclists catch trucker for driving too close to bike
Rob Morley wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 15:45:16 +0100 Incubus wrote: Why don't the Police 'pose' as pedestrians to catch cyclists riding on pavements? Because people riding bicycles inconsiderately on pavements are mostly just an annoyance that other people like to exaggerate - they rarely kill anyone, much more often a case of "nearly hit someone". Where it is an acknowledged problem, in places like Cambridge, they have occasional crack-downs on pavement cycling and bikes with no lights, but that's all it merits really. My long dead mother used to walk to the shop. She was very fail and could not see very well. If some footpath riding **** of a cyclist had hit her, the cyclist would have killed her and then smartly ****ed off, as scum cyclists tend to do. But then again, in your own words: "Because people riding bicycles inconsiderately on pavements are mostly just an annoyance". You disgust me. |
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Undercover police posing as cyclists catch trucker for drivingtoo close to bike
On 12/07/2017 22:32, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Rob Morley wrote: On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 15:45:16 +0100 Incubus wrote: Why don't the Police 'pose' as pedestrians to catch cyclists riding on pavements? Because people riding bicycles inconsiderately on pavements are mostly just an annoyance that other people like to exaggerate - they rarely kill anyone, much more often a case of "nearly hit someone". Where it is an acknowledged problem, in places like Cambridge, they have occasional crack-downs on pavement cycling and bikes with no lights, but that's all it merits really. My long dead mother used to walk to the shop. She was very fail and could not see very well. If some footpath riding **** of a cyclist had hit her, the cyclist would have killed her and then smartly ****ed off, as scum cyclists tend to do. But then again, in your own words: "Because people riding bicycles inconsiderately on pavements are mostly just an annoyance". You disgust me. +1. And that's mainly for the callous disingenuity of the "argument". Cyclists on footways are utter turds. Try as one might, there is no getting around that. |
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