Idiots on the A1

On 16 Aug, 16:50, Rob Morley wrote:
In article , Robert Peffers.
says...

Then it is the opinion of an idiot - the law says single file.

One idiot to another, eh?

Of course you would not know that as cyclists do not pass driving tests -
and it shows.

Has it ever occurred to you that many cyclists are actually licensed to
drive motor vehicles?

Goodness knows how they managed to pass their driving tests

Sir Jeremy wrote:
On 16 Aug, 16:15, marc wrote:
Robert Peffers. wrote:
"Geoff Lane" wrote in message
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"I've lost my Dhobi Wallah!....." wrote in
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I crawled along behind two cyclists on a narrow Devon lane recently.
They were the epitome of 'smug' - dressed in bloody silly lycra
costumes with daft pointed pixie helmets and wrap-around sunglasses
as they slowly rode two abreast up a hill, preventing anything from
passing them.
The emanations of self-righteous 'greenness' coming from these two
gaily coloured carnival performers was almost overpowering! - and if
someone finally lost their temper and drove over them and their bloody
bicycles it would be hard to condemn them for their actions.
As a motorist, caravanner, and cyclist:
I suspect that they were just protecting themselves from unsafe motorists
and you from yourself. This was a _narrow_ lane (your assertion), where I
suspect that defensive positioning is warranted. You need road width of at
least the width of your vehicle plus 1.6m (600mm for the cyclist's
handlebars + 1m safety clearance) to pass a cyclist in safety - and that's
if the cyclist is riding "in the gutter". If the cyclist is riding
correctly in the secondary riding position (approximately where your
nearside wheels would track), you're going to need a much wider road.
Also,
it's dangerous to overtake approaching the brow of a hill.
Reading between your lines, and particularly your second paragraph, I
suspect that if you could have "squeezed past" you would have - even
though
that would have been unsafe. So, IMO the cyclists' are completely
vindicated.
--
Geoff
Then it is the opinion of an idiot - the law says single file.
Of course you would not know that as cyclists do not pass driving tests -
and it shows.
Which law is that, asking as a cyclist who has passed his driving
test,three times.- Hide quoted text -

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Three tests?

Yes.
have you been banned twice?

Not even once.

Mary Fisher wrote:

Indeed the CTT

I think that's a typo for CTC - Cyclists' Touring Club

It istands Cycling Time Trials.

You probably remember them as the RTTC - Road Time Trials Council.

They went through a phase of trying to update tehmselves ;-)
I didn't work as they are still firmly wedded to the last century.

John B

One might argue that the statutes of courtesy and decency should come into
play in such a situation - but, since cyclists are (generally) entirely
ignorant of such social niceties,

.... do you say the same of horse riders and tractors?

"I've lost my Dhobi Wallah!....." wrote in
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"Andy Leighton" wrote in message
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:44:35 +0100,
I've lost my Dhobi Wallah!..... wrote:


To which couplet might be added another of my own composition:

"When cycling down a narrow road
Obstructing my car and heavy load,
Then wisdom should come into play
And make you get out of my way -
For if, alas, my vehicle tyre
Should knock your cycle in the mire
Before it passed over your head,
I would be fined -
But you'd be dead."

Another Mr Toad who believes he should be free to kill people on the
roads. Strange how you aren't brave enough to use your real name.

Poop-Poop!......


I guess that doggerel was to replace the lack of an apology for being
wrong about the two-abreast comment?



Nope, the doggerel was intended to demonstrate how incredibly witty and
talented I am.

It didn't work.

Apologies I leave to others, particularly as I didn't make the claim about
single-file cycling.

As far as I'm concerned, cycling needs to be banned PDQ - especially those
bloody silly three wheel things that the real cycle-nerds lie down in!!

You don't know the name of it?

I howl with laughter every time I encounter one of *those* (which,
mercifully, isn't very often) The riders (or should it be Drivers?) of
these absurd machines always appear inordinately proud of their
stupidity - apparently not realising that they are candidates for a
section under the metal health act!

At least they know what they're called. You're showing your silliness more
with every post.

Mary

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"Mary Fisher" wrote in message
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"wafflycat" wrote in message
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And timetrials do not normally require police permission - an organiser
can simply notify the police an event is due to take place. Indeed the
CTT

I think that's a typo for CTC - Cyclists' Touring Club

Mary
once a Time Trialist who remembers marshalling and racing on the A1 in
the glory days before it was crowded with traffic. Why, there isn't even
a Dishforth roundabout to sit on in the semi-dark under a cape any more
:-(


No, it's the CTT: Cycling Time Trials, the governing body for time trials
in England & Wales.
Nothing whatsoever to do with the CTC: Cyclists' Touring Club

Ah, thanks for that. things have moved on.

I really am grateful for that - no sarcasm - it's another thread in the rich
thread of whatsit. and i can show off to Spouse :-)

Mary

"John B" wrote in message
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Mary Fisher wrote:

Indeed the CTT

I think that's a typo for CTC - Cyclists' Touring Club

It istands Cycling Time Trials.

You probably remember them as the RTTC - Road Time Trials Council.

Yes, I remember that.

They went through a phase of trying to update themselves ;-)
I didn't work as they are still firmly wedded to the last century.

You mean like most of the population who were born then?

Mary

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"I've lost my Dhobi Wallah!....." wrote in
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"Andy Leighton" wrote in message
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:44:35 +0100,
I've lost my Dhobi Wallah!..... wrote:


To which couplet might be added another of my own composition:

"When cycling down a narrow road
Obstructing my car and heavy load,
Then wisdom should come into play
And make you get out of my way -
For if, alas, my vehicle tyre
Should knock your cycle in the mire
Before it passed over your head,
I would be fined -
But you'd be dead."

Another Mr Toad who believes he should be free to kill people on the
roads. Strange how you aren't brave enough to use your real name.

Poop-Poop!......


I guess that doggerel was to replace the lack of an apology for being
wrong about the two-abreast comment?



Nope, the doggerel was intended to demonstrate how incredibly witty and
talented I am.

It didn't work.


Okey Dokey, let's have your own effort - shall we say 30 minutes? It took
me less than three minutes - but I'm giving you a sporting chance. Off you
go....




Apologies I leave to others, particularly as I didn't make the claim
about single-file cycling.

As far as I'm concerned, cycling needs to be banned PDQ - especially
those bloody silly three wheel things that the real cycle-nerds lie down
in!!

You don't know the name of it?

Of course I do, you foolish woman - but 'bloody silly things' is a far
better description than 'recument'

I howl with laughter every time I encounter one of *those* (which,
mercifully, isn't very often) The riders (or should it be Drivers?) of
these absurd machines always appear inordinately proud of their
stupidity - apparently not realising that they are candidates for a
section under the metal health act!

At least they know what they're called. You're showing your silliness
more with every post.

See above - now, stop huffing and puffing, and get a verse posted........(an
orginal one, of course)

But Mary, faced with such a task,
Felt she simply had to ask
For assistance to complete
Such an ordinary feat.........

Mary Fisher wrote:

"John B" wrote in message
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You probably remember them as the RTTC - Road Time Trials Council.

Yes, I remember that.

They went through a phase of trying to update themselves ;-)
I didn't work as they are still firmly wedded to the last century.

You mean like most of the population who were born then?

Prolly.
It's their grandparents who are the only one's left riding the events
tho' ;-)

John B

"Mary Fisher" wrote in message
t...


One might argue that the statutes of courtesy and decency should come
into play in such a situation - but, since cyclists are (generally)
entirely ignorant of such social niceties,

... do you say the same of horse riders and tractors?


Yes, indeed! - particularly so since I live in a place that is plagued by
infestations of both sorts of menace!

The only difficulty is deciding which of them I hate most - generally I tend
to loathe the horse riders more, primarily because they represent ancient
class injustices (the arrogant Squire perched on his steed, high above the
forelock tugging peasantry, and all that)

On the other hand, at harvest time when the lanes are filled with impossibly
large agricultural machinery moving at a snails' pace its equally easy to
wish all farmers dead and buried.

Life is all about variety and choices, is it not?