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Revisiting Campy Euclid
I see from the archives that this topic has been discussed before.
Oh, well... would a conductor refuse to play Mozart by that same logic? OK, Campy Euclid brakes: they seem pretty rare; however, they're nice looking units. 1: Has anyone had personal experiance with these? 2: Do they take the "standard" (assume such a concept exists) mounts that have come to be called "990 bosses"? 3: Let's see, Dia Tec makes the 990 U-brake, Tectro has one as does Primo. Are there any others I should consider? I'm not in a rush... I might wait for a Euclid to come up; eBay is my friend unless someone happens to have one (or two) they'd sell. Jones |
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Revisiting Campy Euclid
!Jones wrote:
OK, Campy Euclid brakes: they seem pretty rare; however, they're nice looking units. 1: Has anyone had personal experiance with these? I put one on my wife's chopper, which has only just the one brake. It works well, though I think the Shimano Deore XT U-brake might be a little stronger. With all such brakes, the pivot-to-pad distance of the individual frame probably outweighs all other single factors when it comes to brake effectiveness. Euclid brakes are gorgeous, and very well made to boot. Who knew Campy would make a part for a real bike almost as nicely as their parts for ballerina bikes? It's painted rather than polished, though, and it was only every made in a version to be pulled by a straddle cable. I don't know if the Campy pads were worth a damn when new, but if so, they are not any more. The knife-'n-fork arms make me think of Harley-Davidson connecting rods. 2: Do they take the "standard" (assume such a concept exists) mounts that have come to be called "990 bosses"? They use standard U-brake bosses, 990 bosses-- whatever you want to call them. They are 9mm in diameter rather than the 8mm of cantilever bosses. Since these were handed down from MTBs to freestyle bikes, some of them developed a feature that makes me like them better than the old kind. Many of them are now linear-pull instead of pulled by a straddle. Some of these brakes come with hardware kits that allow both kinds of cable setups. In the freestyle world, the linear-pull ones are front brakes to be actuated by a cable sprouting from the inside of the fork steerer, and the straddle cable ones are rears, whose cable housing terminates in single or double frame stops. (Double cables are a fancy and effective touch for use with Gyros or other detanglers. Odyssey calls this the "London Mod".) 3: Let's see, Dia Tec makes the 990 U-brake, Tectro has one as does Primo. Are there any others I should consider? I'm not in a rush... The Odyssey Evolver is a well-liked and versatile one. Revenge Industries makes the most gratuitiously overengineered one I've seen, with fully CNCed construction and cartridge bearing pivots. It and the Fly Bikes brake are the fanciest and most expensive ones around. The Dia Tech Fiesta is a beautiful brake that would have won the hearts of many an MTBer if it had been available back in days of yore. http://www.danscomp.com/products.php...TS&show=Brakes Tektro, for whatever reason, makes a bunch of different models of U- brake, but the FX20 and FX30 are the ones to have, in my opinion. Do not get a U-brake that requires a smooth post pad if you can help it, e.g. Dia Compe 990. Adjuster slot arms for threaded pads are soooo much easier and tidier. That's almost all of them these days. I might wait for a Euclid to come up; eBay is my friend unless someone happens to have one (or two) they'd sell. Euclids are most excellent if the price is right; if you'll have to spend $30 or more per brake, then get Dia Techs. They give the best bang per buck if you're paying the going price. Chalo |
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Revisiting Campy Euclid
On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 00:02:26 -0000, in rec.bicycles.tech Chalo
wrote: The Dia Tech Fiesta is a beautiful brake that would have won the hearts of many an MTBer if it had been available back in days of yore. Thanks for the info. That's a keeper, IMO. I'm building an old Littlejohn Tandem and am touching the world of BMX for the first time... and a strange one it is!!! About all I lack is the brakes. I'm adapting an old Bemdix red-band kick-down to the rear hub and it has a coaster brake, but I'd like a tad bit more stopper for a tandem, thank ya very much. I've got a 90mm Sturmey Elite that I'm thinking about lacing to the front... when I find the Euclid, I'll see if I get one or two, then I'll decide on the hub. Jones |
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I'm pleased as pie! (was: Revisiting Campy Euclid)
On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 00:02:26 -0000, in rec.bicycles.tech Chalo
wrote: Euclids are most excellent if the price is right; if you'll have to spend $30 or more per brake, then get Dia Techs. They give the best bang per buck if you're paying the going price. I just bought a Campy Euclid brake for about $30 on eBay! Now I have to pay shipping from Europe, but... that's how it goes. Jones |
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