how does the brain work?

For your reference, records indicate that
Emanuel Berg wrote:

Is this because biking involves physical
activity, which relieves stress, or is it
because it is an outdoor thing, or is it
because you can't hide your bad manners behind
a windshield, or is the bike just a superior
vehicle which is much more flexible so you can
solve any traffic issue by just riding by?

Personally, I think it has a lot to do with the self-imposed isolation
that people experience in cars. With a bike and even motorcycles,
it’s easier to feel like part of the “community� of other people
taking the same route. Not so much with cars. Makes me wonder what
happens when a bunch of convertibles are traveling in a pack; someone
should do a study.

--
"Also . . . I can kill you with my brain."
River Tam, Trash, Firefly

On 02/05/2017 2:48 PM, Doc O'Leary wrote:
For your reference, records indicate that
Emanuel Berg wrote:

Is this because biking involves physical
activity, which relieves stress, or is it
because it is an outdoor thing, or is it
because you can't hide your bad manners behind
a windshield, or is the bike just a superior
vehicle which is much more flexible so you can
solve any traffic issue by just riding by?

Personally, I think it has a lot to do with the self-imposed isolation
that people experience in cars. With a bike and even motorcycles,
it’s easier to feel like part of the “community� of other people
taking the same route. Not so much with cars. Makes me wonder what
happens when a bunch of convertibles are traveling in a pack; someone
should do a study.


I think it's more the sense of security from being wrapped in all that
steel.

Tim McNamara wrote:

It's the gap between expectation and reality.
I expect to be able to drive fast and freely,
and when I can't it ****ed me off to no end.
People get enraged about having to slow from
70 to 65 mph in a 55 mph zone! Get the ****
out of the ******* way you *************
*******!

Ha ha! Good explanation. It makes sense.

To answer other people in the thread saying
they see bikers shout at cars as well,

1) I have *never* seen this and if it ever
happened here, everyone would think the
biker ready for a mental institution; and

2) even if it happened, it would be (?) an
isolated event, meanwhile, I have been in
the passager seat for rides in cars of say
30 or 45 minutes and the driver would be
frustrated the entire time, at everything!
Now before you think I'm a total looser,
those rides were in my childhood. Now,
I would immediately say, "hey, stop the car
so I can get out of this madhouse".
Actually I don't know why I didn't do that
as a kid. Because it was as unpleasant and
embarrassing then as it would be today!

--
underground experts united
http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573

On 5/2/2017 2:01 PM, Duane wrote:
On 02/05/2017 2:48 PM, Doc O'Leary wrote:
For your reference, records indicate that
Emanuel Berg wrote:

Is this because biking involves physical
activity, which relieves stress, or is it
because it is an outdoor thing, or is it
because you can't hide your bad manners behind
a windshield, or is the bike just a superior
vehicle which is much more flexible so you can
solve any traffic issue by just riding by?

Personally, I think it has a lot to do with the
self-imposed isolation
that people experience in cars. With a bike and even
motorcycles,
it’s easier to feel like part of the “community� of
other people
taking the same route. Not so much with cars. Makes me
wonder what
happens when a bunch of convertibles are traveling in a
pack; someone
should do a study.


I think it's more the sense of security from being wrapped
in all that steel.

And glass.
Ever notice the nose pickers at a stop light?

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

AMuzi wrote:
On 5/2/2017 2:01 PM, Duane wrote:
On 02/05/2017 2:48 PM, Doc O'Leary wrote:
For your reference, records indicate that
Emanuel Berg wrote:

Is this because biking involves physical
activity, which relieves stress, or is it
because it is an outdoor thing, or is it
because you can't hide your bad manners behind
a windshield, or is the bike just a superior
vehicle which is much more flexible so you can
solve any traffic issue by just riding by?

Personally, I think it has a lot to do with the
self-imposed isolation
that people experience in cars. With a bike and even
motorcycles,
it’s easier to feel like part of the “community� of
other people
taking the same route. Not so much with cars. Makes me
wonder what
happens when a bunch of convertibles are traveling in a
pack; someone
should do a study.


I think it's more the sense of security from being wrapped
in all that steel.

And glass.
Ever notice the nose pickers at a stop light?

Well, rarely -- stop lights, offering a relatively stable aerodynamic
environment for pneumatic operations, are best utilized to clean one's own nose.

On Tue, 02 May 2017 21:15:27 +0200, Emanuel Berg
wrote:

Tim McNamara wrote:

It's the gap between expectation and reality.
I expect to be able to drive fast and freely,
and when I can't it ****ed me off to no end.
People get enraged about having to slow from
70 to 65 mph in a 55 mph zone! Get the ****
out of the ******* way you *************
*******!

Ha ha! Good explanation. It makes sense.

To answer other people in the thread saying
they see bikers shout at cars as well,

1) I have *never* seen this and if it ever
happened here, everyone would think the
biker ready for a mental institution; and

2) even if it happened, it would be (?) an
isolated event, meanwhile, I have been in
the passager seat for rides in cars of say
30 or 45 minutes and the driver would be
frustrated the entire time, at everything!
Now before you think I'm a total looser,
those rides were in my childhood. Now,
I would immediately say, "hey, stop the car
so I can get out of this madhouse".
Actually I don't know why I didn't do that
as a kid. Because it was as unpleasant and
embarrassing then as it would be today!
Ive seen cyclists come up beside a car stopped in traffic and
actually KICK it.

On Tue, 02 May 2017 15:02:06 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 5/2/2017 2:01 PM, Duane wrote:
On 02/05/2017 2:48 PM, Doc O'Leary wrote:
For your reference, records indicate that
Emanuel Berg wrote:

Is this because biking involves physical
activity, which relieves stress, or is it
because it is an outdoor thing, or is it
because you can't hide your bad manners behind
a windshield, or is the bike just a superior
vehicle which is much more flexible so you can
solve any traffic issue by just riding by?

Personally, I think it has a lot to do with the
self-imposed isolation
that people experience in cars. With a bike and even
motorcycles,
it’s easier to feel like part of the “community� of
other people
taking the same route. Not so much with cars. Makes me
wonder what
happens when a bunch of convertibles are traveling in a
pack; someone
should do a study.


I think it's more the sense of security from being wrapped
in all that steel.

And glass.
Ever notice the nose pickers at a stop light?
Or the crotch scratchers??

On Tuesday, May 2, 2017 at 2:18:37 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Tue, 02 May 2017 21:15:27 +0200, Emanuel Berg
wrote:

Tim McNamara wrote:

It's the gap between expectation and reality.
I expect to be able to drive fast and freely,
and when I can't it ****ed me off to no end.
People get enraged about having to slow from
70 to 65 mph in a 55 mph zone! Get the ****
out of the ******* way you *************
*******!

Ha ha! Good explanation. It makes sense.

To answer other people in the thread saying
they see bikers shout at cars as well,

1) I have *never* seen this and if it ever
happened here, everyone would think the
biker ready for a mental institution; and

2) even if it happened, it would be (?) an
isolated event, meanwhile, I have been in
the passager seat for rides in cars of say
30 or 45 minutes and the driver would be
frustrated the entire time, at everything!
Now before you think I'm a total looser,
those rides were in my childhood. Now,
I would immediately say, "hey, stop the car
so I can get out of this madhouse".
Actually I don't know why I didn't do that
as a kid. Because it was as unpleasant and
embarrassing then as it would be today!
Ive seen cyclists come up beside a car stopped in traffic and
actually KICK it.

I've yelled a couple of times in the last five years but haven't gotten actually violent though several times I've really considered it.

I must be mellowing in my old age.

On Tuesday, May 2, 2017 at 2:19:22 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Tue, 02 May 2017 15:02:06 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 5/2/2017 2:01 PM, Duane wrote:
On 02/05/2017 2:48 PM, Doc O'Leary wrote:
For your reference, records indicate that
Emanuel Berg wrote:

Is this because biking involves physical
activity, which relieves stress, or is it
because it is an outdoor thing, or is it
because you can't hide your bad manners behind
a windshield, or is the bike just a superior
vehicle which is much more flexible so you can
solve any traffic issue by just riding by?

Personally, I think it has a lot to do with the
self-imposed isolation
that people experience in cars. With a bike and even
motorcycles,
it’s easier to feel like part of the “community�€? of
other people
taking the same route. Not so much with cars. Makes me
wonder what
happens when a bunch of convertibles are traveling in a
pack; someone
should do a study.


I think it's more the sense of security from being wrapped
in all that steel.

And glass.
Ever notice the nose pickers at a stop light?
Or the crotch scratchers??

Well, actually, ... no. Not the crotch scratchers U got a vid of that?

On Tuesday, May 2, 2017 at 10:14:10 AM UTC-4, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 7:34:17 PM UTC-7, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Tue, 02 May 2017 03:13:29 +0200, Emanuel Berg
wrote:
Tim McNamara wrote:

Once you add in those, about 70% of the population can only barely
adequately operate a motor vehicle.

With cars in particular there seems to be something inherent that
brings forward the bad attitude and rage in man. I don't know how many
angry car drivers I have seen, being totally frustrated with God knows
what, but they are all but countless, for sure.

snip

Is this because biking involves physical activity, which relieves
stress, or is it because it is an outdoor thing, or is it because you
can't hide your bad manners behind a windshield, or is the bike just a
superior vehicle which is much more flexible so you can solve any
traffic issue by just riding by?

It's the gap between expectation and reality. I expect to be able to
drive fast and freely, and when I can't it ****ed me off to no end.
People get enraged about having to slow from 70 to 65 mph in a 55 mph
zone! Get the **** out of the ******* way you ************* *******!

I've done it myself.

Me, too, and it is compounded by years of cycling. I can get on my bike and ride to work as fast as I want. If I ride home at rush hour, I can sail past lines of stopped traffic in a bike lane. I have to be careful because people will rat out of traffic unexpectedly, but otherwise, my commute over the same distance will take half the time.

Now, when I get into a car or end up in bicycle traffic, I'm stuck in the cattle chute, fuming like everyone else. Portland has terrible traffic because it has no infrastructure and a zillion people, so I'm also coping with the new reality that it is always rush hour here. And is rush hour with lots of people distracted by their various devices, hiding behind black-out windows, raging at other drivers, etc., etc. It really is time to move, and if I were retired, I would move.

-- Jay Beattie.

Missoula ?

what's the analysis planning structure for P's limited space continued grouth ?