Motorists v. Bicyclists and Twitter

In Orange County, CA, 16 people have died in Auto v. Bicycle
accidents. The Orange County Register has run two articles recently
about this carnage, and here are the Links (Copied from my Twitter
feed @dave30c):

It's Time to Stop Killing Bicyclists, from OC Register. http://bit.ly/5eIwAD

Drivers, Bicyclists Share Tips on Road Safety, OC Register. http://bit.ly/5eIwAD

I'd welcome your bicycle posts on Twitter about bicycle safety, rides,
products, etc. The hash code appears to be #bicyclists.

Dave Clark

DC1999 wrote, On 12/15/2009 11:28 PM:
In Orange County, CA, 16 people have died in Auto v. Bicycle
accidents. The Orange County Register has run two articles recently
about this carnage, and here are the Links (Copied from my Twitter
feed @dave30c):

It's Time to Stop Killing Bicyclists, from OC Register. http://bit.ly/5eIwAD

Drivers, Bicyclists Share Tips on Road Safety, OC Register. http://bit.ly/5eIwAD

I'd welcome your bicycle posts on Twitter about bicycle safety, rides,
products, etc. The hash code appears to be #bicyclists.

Dave Clark

Great, the last thing we need is a bunch of people Twittering about
bicycle safety while riding their bikes and driving their SUVs....

--

Paul D Oosterhout
I work for SAIC (but I don't speak for SAIC)

On Dec 16, 7:15*am, Paul O wrote:
DC1999 wrote, On 12/15/2009 11:28 PM: In Orange County, CA, 16 people have died in Auto v. Bicycle
accidents. *The Orange County Register has run two articles recently
about this carnage, and here are the Links (Copied from my Twitter
feed @dave30c):

It's Time to Stop Killing Bicyclists, from OC Register. *http://bit.ly/5eIwAD

Drivers, Bicyclists Share Tips on Road Safety, OC Register. *http://bit.ly/5eIwAD

I'd welcome your bicycle posts on Twitter about bicycle safety, rides,
products, etc. *The hash code appears to be #bicyclists.

Dave Clark

Great, the last thing we need is a bunch of people Twittering about
bicycle safety while riding their bikes and driving their SUVs....

--

Paul D Oosterhout
I work for SAIC (but I don't speak for SAIC)

That's 16 dead cyclists THIS YEAR.

Dave

On Dec 16, 11:52*am, DC1999 wrote:
On Dec 16, 7:15*am, Paul O wrote:





DC1999 wrote, On 12/15/2009 11:28 PM: In Orange County, CA, 16 people have died in Auto v. Bicycle
accidents. *The Orange County Register has run two articles recently
about this carnage, and here are the Links (Copied from my Twitter
feed @dave30c):

It's Time to Stop Killing Bicyclists, from OC Register. *http://bit..ly/5eIwAD

Drivers, Bicyclists Share Tips on Road Safety, OC Register. *http://bit.ly/5eIwAD

I'd welcome your bicycle posts on Twitter about bicycle safety, rides,
products, etc. *The hash code appears to be #bicyclists.

Dave Clark

Great, the last thing we need is a bunch of people Twittering about
bicycle safety while riding their bikes and driving their SUVs....

--

Paul D Oosterhout
I work for SAIC (but I don't speak for SAIC)

That's 16 dead cyclists THIS YEAR.

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A quick "back of envelope' computation would suggest that's about
triple the national average, which is pretty bad. Last I looked,
there were about 800 bicyclists killed in the US in a typical year.
On a per hour of riding basis, it was better than for autos; on a per
mile basis, it was worse; but in both cases in the same order of
magnitude. With 16 deaths, Orange County would have 2% of the total,
which would require a County population of over 6,000,000 (2% of
300,000,000 plus) to have a rate equal to the national average - which
it doesn't have.

On Dec 16, 10:15*am, Paul O wrote:
DC1999 wrote, On 12/15/2009 11:28 PM: In Orange County, CA, 16 people have died in Auto v. Bicycle
accidents. *The Orange County Register has run two articles recently
about this carnage, and here are the Links (Copied from my Twitter
feed @dave30c):

It's Time to Stop Killing Bicyclists, from OC Register. *http://bit.ly/5eIwAD

Drivers, Bicyclists Share Tips on Road Safety, OC Register. *http://bit.ly/5eIwAD

I'd welcome your bicycle posts on Twitter about bicycle safety, rides,
products, etc. *The hash code appears to be #bicyclists.

Dave Clark

Great, the last thing we need is a bunch of people Twittering about
bicycle safety while riding their bikes and driving their SUVs....


That's right! We should junk the SUVs once and for all.

On Dec 15, 11:28*pm, DC1999 wrote:
In Orange County, CA, 16 people have died in Auto v. Bicycle
accidents. *The Orange County Register has run two articles recently
about this carnage, and here are the Links (Copied from my Twitter
feed @dave30c):

It's Time to Stop Killing Bicyclists, from OC Register. *http://bit.ly/5eIwAD

Drivers, Bicyclists Share Tips on Road Safety, OC Register. *http://bit..ly/5eIwAD

I'd welcome your bicycle posts on Twitter about bicycle safety, rides,
products, etc. *The hash code appears to be #bicyclists.

Dave Clark

I've got this comment from your link...

beadyeye wrote:
Cyclists need to stop riding outside of the bike lane. I see this
constantly. two guys side by side talking, 3 feet into the part of the
road where cars drive by at 50 miles per hour. Or how about riding
your bike where there are no cars? Seriously, is it worth dying just
to ride on the same road where idiots are driving by talking on their
phones?

***

We need to change that perception, but here's another solution: BIKES
TAKE THE LANE, CARS MUST PASS ON ANOTHER LANE, ACCIDENTS ARE BLAMED ON
CARS AUTOMATICALLY UNTIL PROVEN OTHERWISE.

Thank you. And remember NOW THERE'S A REVOLUTION BEHIND YOU!

Hey, want a winning strategy? Seek the solidarity of the PEDESTRIANS
and other endangered species...

On Dec 13, 11:56 am, Nashton wrote:
LionWhisperer wrote:
(aka Comandante Banana)

I guess that's the role of society and government: TO PUT THE PREDATOR
IN THE CAGE. In other words that we can use some NATION BUILDING HERE.

Based on equality for bicycle riders?

Hardly.

In the meantime, I am thoroughly enjoying my Sequoia Platinum and feel
extremely safe when driving my kids to wherever they want to go *Safely*.


And PEDESTRIANS, and anyone who's nearly the bottom of the food chain,
inluding scooter, motorcyclists, Smart cars, regular cars...

The Stupid Unnecessary Vehicle is simply an attack on civilization...

"The number of students walking to school in the United States has
fallen from 70 percent a generation ago to barely 10 percent today.
What are the implications of this enormous change? What caused it?
What can be done to reverse it?"

http://www.pedestrians.org/

On 17 Dec, 15:49, LionTeaser wrote:
On Dec 15, 11:28*pm, DC1999 wrote:

In Orange County, CA, 16 people have died in Auto v. Bicycle
accidents. *The Orange County Register has run two articles recently
about this carnage, and here are the Links (Copied from my Twitter
feed @dave30c):

It's Time to Stop Killing Bicyclists, from OC Register. *http://bit.ly/5eIwAD

Drivers, Bicyclists Share Tips on Road Safety, OC Register. *http://bit.ly/5eIwAD

I'd welcome your bicycle posts on Twitter about bicycle safety, rides,
products, etc. *The hash code appears to be #bicyclists.

Dave Clark

I've got this comment from your link...

beadyeye wrote:

Cyclists need to stop riding outside of the bike lane. I see this
constantly. two guys side by side talking, 3 feet into the part of the
road where cars drive by at 50 miles per hour. Or how about riding
your bike where there are no cars? Seriously, is it worth dying just
to ride on the same road where idiots are driving by talking on their
phones?

Maybe if enough die the government will finally do something about it
to make cycling on a public road much safer from idiot drivers, who
seem to be mollycoddled in law. Its better than cowering in some
pedestrian shared space like a bunch of fearful losers.

--
UK Radical Campaigns
www.zing.icom43.net
A driving licence is a licence to kill.

Doug wrote:
On 17 Dec, 15:49, LionTeaser wrote:
On Dec 15, 11:28 pm, DC1999 wrote:

In Orange County, CA, 16 people have died in Auto v. Bicycle
accidents. The Orange County Register has run two articles recently
about this carnage, and here are the Links (Copied from my Twitter
feed @dave30c):
It's Time to Stop Killing Bicyclists, from OC Register. http://bit.ly/5eIwAD
Drivers, Bicyclists Share Tips on Road Safety, OC Register. http://bit.ly/5eIwAD
I'd welcome your bicycle posts on Twitter about bicycle safety, rides,
products, etc. The hash code appears to be #bicyclists.
Dave Clark
I've got this comment from your link...

beadyeye wrote:

Cyclists need to stop riding outside of the bike lane. I see this
constantly. two guys side by side talking, 3 feet into the part of the
road where cars drive by at 50 miles per hour. Or how about riding
your bike where there are no cars? Seriously, is it worth dying just
to ride on the same road where idiots are driving by talking on their
phones?

Maybe if enough die the government will finally do something about it
to make cycling on a public road much safer from idiot drivers, who
seem to be mollycoddled in law. Its better than cowering in some
pedestrian shared space like a bunch of fearful losers.

--
UK Radical Campaigns
www.zing.icom43.net
A driving licence is a licence to kill.

Maybe if enough die, some cyclists might start using the road in a less
idiotic fashion as well.

--
Tony Dragon

On 18 Dec, 12:39, Tony Dragon wrote:
Doug wrote:
On 17 Dec, 15:49, LionTeaser wrote:
On Dec 15, 11:28 pm, DC1999 wrote:

In Orange County, CA, 16 people have died in Auto v. Bicycle
accidents. *The Orange County Register has run two articles recently
about this carnage, and here are the Links (Copied from my Twitter
feed @dave30c):
It's Time to Stop Killing Bicyclists, from OC Register. *http://bit..ly/5eIwAD
Drivers, Bicyclists Share Tips on Road Safety, OC Register. *http://bit.ly/5eIwAD
I'd welcome your bicycle posts on Twitter about bicycle safety, rides,
products, etc. *The hash code appears to be #bicyclists.
Dave Clark
I've got this comment from your link...

beadyeye wrote:

Cyclists need to stop riding outside of the bike lane. I see this
constantly. two guys side by side talking, 3 feet into the part of the
road where cars drive by at 50 miles per hour. Or how about riding
your bike where there are no cars? Seriously, is it worth dying just
to ride on the same road where idiots are driving by talking on their
phones?

Maybe if enough die the government will finally do something about it
to make cycling on a public road much safer from idiot drivers, who
seem to be mollycoddled in law. Its better than cowering in some
pedestrian shared space like a bunch of fearful losers.


Maybe if enough die, some cyclists might start using the road in a less
idiotic fashion as well.

So you blame the vulnerable victims instead of their killers? Why do
you imagine so many cyclists abandon roads in favour of pavements and
other routes shared with pedestrians? Because enough cyclists are
dying already on our roads. It needs an increase in fatalities for
government to deign do something about it.

--
UK Radical Campaigns
www.zing.icom43.net
A driving licence is a licence to kill.