Biker Killed by Mountain Lion

Your ideas make perfect sense, but since we're talking California, we
should probably follow mine instead.

We should locate the alleged perpetrator and bring it before justice.
Even though the victim and her friend clearly identified the perpetrator
as a mountain lion, we should make sure that we question plenty of deer
and rabbits so the rest of the lions are not offended.
We should make sure that the brave men who capture the alleged
perpetrator handle the perpetrator with excessive gentleness. If the
perpetrator interprets the excessive gentleness as a sign of weakness
and attacks the arresting officers and they defend themselves, we should
call the arresting officers racists and show videos of the officers
subduing the perpetrator. The videos should be edited to remove the
initial attack by the lion against the officers.

Once we try the alleged perpetrator, we should blame the victims for
causing the attack. We should also point out that the perpetrator was
only a year old and should not be held accountable. We should ignore
the fact that the perpetrator had already killed a man before attacking
the woman. We should also try the other bikers for throwing rocks at
the perpetrator.

In the unfortunate instance that the perpetrator is found guilty, we
should incarcerate the perpetrator with lots of other perpetrators who
have done the same thing. After 6 months of being locked up with other
perpetrators, we should release the pepetrator because it is better that
someone else die than we keep a proven murderer behind bars with plenty
of food, weight lifting equipment and cable TV.

Oh, I almost forgot. We should pass lots of laws that prevent the
victims from obtaining weapons to defend themselves with. To prevent
the lion from obtaining weapons (in the unlikely event that it should
need one) we will post a sign that says, "No weapons allowed". In case
that sign is ignored by the perpetrator, we should post another sign
that says. "It is unlawful to kill Humans". The sign will probably not
do any good and take money away from apprehending murderers but it will
make the rest of us feel better about ourselves.

Patrick (better than you are because I'm liberal and have compassion for
criminals but none for victims) Tracy



Jerry Rhodes wrote:

"DH" wrote in message



. Do we kill bears that have attacked humans?



Yes



What's the manner we deal with mountain lions?



Get the dogs, run it down and shoot it.



How should this be handled?



Just like I said. They got the dogs, ran it down and shot it.

Pumas/cougars/panthers/mountain lions are not an endagered species.

When an animal starts attacking humans it has entered my very personal
ecological niche and I kill it. I don't fault the lion for it is
doing what is natural(hunting prey) and I don't fault myself for I am
doing what is natural for me (self defense).

Jerry (top of the food chain) Rhodes

Edward Dolan wrote:

There is no more dangerous
creature on the face of the earth than man himself.

Help! I'm agreeing with Ed!! Were I a Calfornia cyclist, I'd be far more
worried about cars than cats.

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Dave Larrington - http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/
Who nearly ran over a small bear in Yosemite last year.
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Jonathan Swift was satire?

Oh my God!

I've got to email the relatives back in Ireland to quite selling their
young.



Edward Dolan wrote:

Tracy wrote in message ...



Your ideas make perfect sense, but since we're talking California, we
should probably follow mine instead.


[...]

Apparently everyone on this newsgroup has read Jonathan Swift as I
have never encountered so much satire since leaving a college English
class 40 years ago. And it is darn good satire too.

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

does anyone know if that was a female mountain lion, talking on a cell
phone?

Dave Larrington wrote:
Edward Dolan wrote:


There is no more dangerous
creature on the face of the earth than man himself.


Help! I'm agreeing with Ed!! Were I a Calfornia cyclist, I'd be far more
worried about cars than cats.

--

Dave Larrington - http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/
Who nearly ran over a small bear in Yosemite last year.
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Like the Hoagie Carmichael song. "A little bitty bug is gonna get you
someday".

Jerry (close to the top of the food chain) Rhodes

Jerry, I'm a professional musician (jazz piano) and I love HC ... what
song are they the lyrics to? They really do not strike a bell.

On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 11:31:48 -0000, "Dave Larrington"
wrote:

Edward Dolan wrote:

There is no more dangerous
creature on the face of the earth than man himself.

Help! I'm agreeing with Ed!! Were I a Calfornia cyclist, I'd be far more
worried about cars than cats.

Yeah, but we're damn lucky that cats lack opposable thumbs, otherwise
they'd be hot-wiring SUVs and we'd all be killed.

bentbiker wrote:

does anyone know if that was a female mountain lion, talking on a
cell phone?

Apparently so. She was eating a slice of pizza with the other front paw.

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On 11 Jan 2004 16:52:49 -0800, (GeoB) wrote:

I have always felt that a proper manly hunter, with a pocketknife
gripped in his teeth, would crawl out on the limb the cat is on and if
he wanted a trophy he would earn the darn thing.

I'm really not a big friend of predators, having grown up on a cattle
ranch/wheat farm. If we saw one on our land we just shot it, and also
killed every snattlerake we caught sight of. Of course that lets the
deer multiply like rats, so there's cost to that kind of attitude.
But frankly the deer weren't that much of a problem. Except late at
night when you were screaming home from the tavern in the pickup on a
gravel road. They're hard to miss in those circumstances. Skunks
too.

http://www.demosophia.com

On 11 Jan 2004 17:12:52 -0800, (GeoB) wrote:

They believe in shooting, exploding, gassing and
poisoning predators. Statistically they are losing the war. More
expense fighting them, with less success, as losses to predators
mount.

So, from the conservationist's standpoint there's not a problem,
right? I never understand these arguments. Like I said somewhere, we
were really a lot more worried about rattlesnakes. Workers were
struck by rattlers fairly often, and you just never knew when one was
going to turn up unexpectedly. Snakebite kits were mandatory. My
guess is that a lot more people are probably killed by snakes than
lions. Well maybe not anymore, with anti-venom readily available.
Most of the strikes are in tall grass or alfalfa (often during the
process of "changing pipe" for irrigation). We used to have to carry
the pipe, and then fiddle with it to recouple the sections together.
I guess they don't do that anymore, either.


http://www.demosophia.com

(GeoB) wrote in message . com...

I mean, set some decent rules for the hunt, like civilized
people. Something that's not essentially shameful.

I have always felt that a proper manly hunter, with a pocketknife
gripped in his teeth, would crawl out on the limb the cat is on and if
he wanted a trophy he would earn the darn thing.

Yup! One man versus one lion, and no high tech weapons like guns
either. Just the man chasing down the lion on foot with a club or
spear. Or the lion chasing the man. Now that would be fair and
balanced and if any one wanted to brag about it afterward he could do
so with some justification.

Modern day hunting is nothing but slaughter - might just as well shoot
fish in a barrel and call it fishing. I have alway been perplexed why
hunters don't go to work in a slaughter house (meat packing plant)
where they could fully indulge themselves to their heart's content.

Ed Dolan - Minnesota